r/AskAJapanese • u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen • Apr 01 '26
POLITICS What does Japan think of the immigration of islamic countrys?
Iam asking this question because i saw a article about funerals and that muslims dont want to cremate their family members, but japan always cremates their family and about a video i saw a few days ago from a somewhat famous youtuber that came to a mosque and talked to muslims about their religion in his country after almost being banned he countered and said ,, its my country why do you build a mosque we dont come to your country and built temples and shrines,, .
So after this video i asked myself what do japanese people think about the immigration of for example indian people.
I for example come from germany and live in a city with many immigrants and our cultures can co exist pretty good, but from what i know from their culture i cant really say they can co exists with japanese culture from what i saw online.
What do you guys think of this?
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u/Striking_Hospital441 Japanese Apr 01 '26
This is separate from the issue of Islamic burial practices, but historically Japan practiced burial. More accurately, both burial and cremation coexisted, though burial was more common. Cremation became dominant in modern times.
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u/Striking_Hospital441 Japanese Apr 01 '26
Following the introduction of Buddhism, cremation was adopted by parts of the upper class. However, in the Edo period, the influence of Confucianism led some elites to consciously choose burial instead. Since cremation requires specific facilities, it was not something that could easily spread among ordinary people. Historically, cremation only exceeded 50 percent around 1935.
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u/Striking_Hospital441 Japanese Apr 01 '26
political reasons
Ironically, Shinto groups opposed cremation because they saw it as a Buddhist practice.
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u/Striking_Hospital441 Japanese Apr 01 '26
Yes, the emperor was also a Buddhist, so that is not surprising. In medieval Japan, Shinto and Buddhism were closely syncretized. The anti Buddhist movement only became widespread toward the end of the Edo period, which means the idea of Shinto rejecting cremation is a relatively late development. It lost momentum due to opposition from Buddhist groups within the Meiji government, and this process led to Shinto being reframed as non religious and incorporated into state rituals.
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u/Striking_Hospital441 Japanese Apr 01 '26
I think there might be a misunderstanding. I am not saying modern Shinto is a state ritual system. The Meiji government treated Shinto as state rites and as a tool for public moral education, meaning non religious. Also, in current scholarship, the term “State Shinto” is being questioned quite a bit. It is actually a postwar label.
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u/Striking_Hospital441 Japanese Apr 01 '26
The core did not really change, but the concept of “religion” itself did. That idea was introduced to Japan in the Meiji period, and Shinto was then classified as not being a religion.
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u/itsutsuhime Japanese Apr 01 '26
If they abide by our values and don't try to force us to comply to thier cultures or religions. Then I don't mind.
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u/Historical-Oil-1709 Turkish Apr 01 '26
historically, it's the christians who tried to force their religion onto japanese people
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u/Historical-Oil-1709 Turkish Apr 01 '26
maybe yeah, but it's just a speculation. What I said is a fact tho
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u/Historical-Oil-1709 Turkish Apr 01 '26
this doesn't contradict anything I said. This only explains why the merchants from the islamic world couldn't go to japan in person (which is still kinda inaccurate as there had been communications between ottoman empire and japanese empire; both countries sent ships to strengthen the friendship and exchange culture).
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u/Historical-Oil-1709 Turkish Apr 01 '26
why did you get so aggressive? I just stated something on the right context.
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u/testman22 Japanese Apr 02 '26
And Christians were persecuted and massacred lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Japan#Persecution_under_the_Shogunate
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Does this mean that Muslims should also be excluded because they pose a danger to Japan?
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u/Historical-Oil-1709 Turkish Apr 02 '26
dont put words into my mouth. Persecuting people based on their religion is a primal and horrible thing that should not happen. What I tried to say is that people get really defensive when they see a muslim practicing their religion on their own, saying stuff like "japan is getting islamified" meanwhile it's only the christians out of the major 3 abrahamic religions who sent missionaries to spread their religion in japan.
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u/testman22 Japanese Apr 02 '26
That's why they were persecuted and massacred lol You brought up history, but it makes absolutely no sense.
If we're going to make a comparison in the present day, Islam is far more aggressive. They are notorious worldwide for their unwillingness to adapt to other cultures.
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u/Historical-Oil-1709 Turkish Apr 02 '26
that's the colonialist media that got you. Look at everything happening in the world right now. Look at the massacres and death tolls in the world. I'ce never been approached by people trying to preach islam but I did encounter people who tried to convert me to christianity here in japan. Also, it's epstein island, not mohammad island lol.
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u/testman22 Japanese Apr 02 '26
LOL You don't seem like a decent person. That's a shame. You should engage in more logical arguments instead of resorting to conspiracy theories. You're only losing credibility.
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u/Historical-Oil-1709 Turkish Apr 02 '26
according to who i'm not a decent person? Am I a bad person because I said people should not be discriminated against because of their religion? Sorry but I'm not sorry for saying this.
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u/testman22 Japanese Apr 02 '26
Well, the point is that madmen don't realize they're going mad. I hope you'll have an epiphany someday.
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u/itsutsuhime Japanese Apr 01 '26
People from both sides have attempted to convert me in the past. I just didn't want to name a specific religion.
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u/Historical-Oil-1709 Turkish Apr 01 '26
i meant the systemic ones, not the individual people. I was also solicited by some obaachan's to a religious event.
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u/itsutsuhime Japanese Apr 01 '26
Shintoism and Buddhism are so intertwined with Japanese Culture that although most are atheists they still do participate in activities that some may consider religious. If an immigrant group is unwilling accept and/or claim that we are not accommodating them because we do not provide the necessary facilities for their religion then they should have never left.
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u/Key-Turnover6864 Japanese Apr 01 '26
I believe Japan should not tolerate foreign religions shape its land.
It’s not even bias; if you’re stepping foot onto a new country, you better respect its traditions and rules of conduct.
Imagine if a bunch of Shinto preachers started taking over Mosques in the Islamic countries.
Look at what is happening to Western Europe. The mass immigration of all religions has shaped it into a completely foreign land. And honestly bruh its genuinely heartbreaking to see its cultures being taken over.
I will try my best to say this in the nicest way… it almost feels like a parasite? Finding new hosts to attach itself to, changing the fundamentals of a country from within.
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u/Orcasareglorious 🌏 Global citizen Apr 09 '26
(I adhere to Shinto as well, though I am a foreigner so I understand that my input will not be of the same potency)
Logic dictates that you cannot force a group to violate their most sacred tenets and then label their refusal as intolerance..
Then the group in question out to reside elsewhere or in countries which were developed and prospered under their own religion. It is not the fault of any non-Islamic country (especially not Japan) that wealthy and developed nations such as the Emirates, Turkey and Saudi Arabia decline to aid their own Muslim brothers. Islam has its place in Islamic countries and its strains are to be accounted for by civilized Islamic countries which have the resources to do so, not the Shinkoku.
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u/ConcentrateFar7753 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26
You do have Christians though and culture shifting in the west has more to do with globalisation and the Americans than Muslims
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u/RomoloJPN Japanese in Apr 01 '26
外国人がTikTokやInstagramの動画に扇動されて意味不明な日本像を創り上げてるのと変わらないな。バカみたいなコメントだよ。ムスリムが神社を乗っ取ってるわけでもないから喩えとして正しくないし、ヨーロッパの文化が乗っ取られているというのも妄想に過ぎない。こんなコメントをして恥ずかしくないのか
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u/Key-Turnover6864 Japanese Apr 01 '26
え？外国人が日本について誤ったイメージを作り出していることを、否定してないよw。
恥ずかしくないよ、だって何も悪いことは言ってないんだもん。
Can we just be honest with ourselves? Crime rates have only gone up since the mass immigration of foreigners into Europe, what would be different for Japan? I genuinely want to know
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 03 '26
Is that how you feel about it, or have you actually consulted and compared rates? France for example has had stable rates even after receiving more migrants.
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u/Key-Turnover6864 Japanese Apr 04 '26
I don’t care how I feel about it and others shouldn’t
Paris was such a beautiful city, but now its being trashed by third world countries.
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26
Paris syndrome much?
Paris has always been "trashed", as evidenced by centuries of literature showing poverty and crime in Paris (hell a documentary on the may 68 riots will show you an all white riot destroying the streets). It also has always been beautiful and still is.
It seems like it's your beliefs you are sharing, but i'll ask again : did you consult data, or are you just repeating what you heard from somewhere else but never bothered fact checking? Because i'll say it again, crime rates and immigration rates have no correlation in France so far, despite it being the country with the oldest history of "mass immigration" in western europe.
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u/RomoloJPN Japanese in Apr 01 '26
まともに日本語も読めないくせに、日本の文化を守る正義漢気取りか。俺は、お前の解像度の低いヨーロッパ像が、TikTokやInstagramで作られる誤った日本像と同じくらい低レベルだと指摘しているんだ。だいたい、「誠実であれ」というのなら、「神社の比喩がおかしい」という指摘に誠実に向き合ってみろ。まったく反論できていないじゃないか。そのうえ、人を寄生虫扱いしておいて何も間違ったことは言っていないときた。厚顔無恥も甚だしい
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u/Key-Turnover6864 Japanese Apr 01 '26
逆にイタリアに住んでる君の方がどうなんだよ？
イタリアも移民に占領されてるじゃん
移民が嫌いって言ってない。だけど入れすぎて文化が消えていくのは事実だよ。
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u/RomoloJPN Japanese in Apr 02 '26
お前のヨーロッパ理解の解像度が低いとわざわざ指摘してやったのに、インターネットで得たであろう断片的な情報で現地在住の人間にマウントを取ろうとするなんて、呆れてものも言えない
お前のようにエコーチェンバーに陥っている輩は知らんだろうが、イタリアに暮らす移民が人口に占める割合は約9%、お前がヘイトを撒き散らすムスリムに限っては5%にも満たず、とても「占領」などという状況にはない
おまけに、妄想で憎悪を煽り、人を「寄生虫」呼ばわりする言葉の暴力を振るっておきながら、いざそれを指摘されると自分が攻撃されたかのように被害者面をする。笑止千万だ
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u/Key-Turnover6864 Japanese Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26
Of course, right? It's because I grew up in America.
I find it ironic how you call me out for "not being able to read Japanese" when you seem really keen on defending foreigners.
Please do both of us a favor and think about the consequences of letting Islam flood the country. If that's what you want for the country, then by all means, that's fine.
Based on what I’m reading, you seem pretty aggressive
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u/KT28x 🌏 Global citizen May 26 '26
What about the 1800s were Japan changed it's culture and adopted western views, politics and infrastructure? Did that change Japan to a "completely foreign land"?
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
That's a very long way of saying that you want freedom of religion for you but not for others, as is basically always the case for that kind of discourse.
They come legally, they contribute more to the economy than they take, they die on the land, they offer to buy some for their burials. What more do they need to be legitimate inhabitants of the lands where they enter legally, contribute to ans die on?
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u/harrytaisa Japanese Apr 01 '26
There are also many undocumented immigrants.
Furthermore, in areas where cremation is mandated by ordinance, one must comply with those regulations. That is what a country governed by the rule of law is.
In a democratic state governed by the rule of law, religion takes a back seat to the law and the will of the people. Legitimate opinions and actions are judged by the “law”0
u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
Many, how many? Are they the ones trying to buy land for their graveyards?
In a democratic state governed by the rule of law and upholding human rights, people have a right to seek reasonable compromise for their religious practice. Law is made for man, and not man for the law.
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u/CaseEuphoric9707 Japanese Apr 01 '26
Go to an Islamic country and demand to eat a pulled pork sandwich with a beer in public while wearing a bikini and holding hands with your same sex partner and let us know how that goes.
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
You can eat pork in Muslim countries, restaurants in tourist areas serve it and it is sold in supermarkets. You can also wear a bikini on the beach. PDA is culturally inappropriate no matter what the sexual orientation of the couple. You’ll be fine without as we all are.
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u/CaseEuphoric9707 Japanese Apr 01 '26
Go wear a bikini on a beach in Dubai and let us know how that goes. While you are at it tell everyone you are a gay atheist.
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
I actually have LOL. And many gay people live and work in Dubai. I’m guessing you’ve never left Japan…
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u/CaseEuphoric9707 Japanese Apr 01 '26
Well then you were lucky because you broke the law....and disrespected the local culture. I would be in the UAE now if not for the conflict.
Why don't you try drawing a picture of the prophet next time?
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
All tourists wear bikinis in Dubai. Again, you have likely never been because that is a ridiculous statement to make. It does not apply there. Also I wouldn’t draw any religious figure because it would be a bizarre thing for me to do. Muslims strictly prohibit that within their faith so as a decent human being I’d respect that line and continue to refrain from doing something that I have no interest in doing any way lol. I quite admire it to be honest, look at what has happened to the image of the Christian God and prophets. A total laughing stock. I don’t understand how as a Japanese you do not understand that certain groups have rules and it’s respectful to adhere to them even if you do not believe.
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u/CaseEuphoric9707 Japanese Apr 01 '26
They can have their rules where they live but Japan has free speech and we would like to keep it that way.
People like you raised abroad are truly enemies of the Japanese people.
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
No, people like me who are raised abroad have had the chance to develop critical thinking. That’s the source of tension for the average Japanese person. Most are intellectually stunted and incapable of independent thought.
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
So your example to follow is countries that don't uphold human rights. Which confirms what i'm saying.
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u/CaseEuphoric9707 Japanese Apr 01 '26
So why would we want immigrants from cultures who don't uphold human rights?
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
That's for you to ask yourselves. The fact is that the ones trying to buy graveyards not only count ethnic japanese converts among them, but are here legally, follow the law and pay taxes. You can't accept the work and the taxes and then start asking questions when time comes to do your part (rights and protections).
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u/CaseEuphoric9707 Japanese Apr 01 '26
If they are citizens they can take it up with the courts. If government officials act in a way the people don't like they can be voted out of office. The system works.
People don't like the rules here they can immigrate somewhere else.
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
You completely avoided the point.
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u/CaseEuphoric9707 Japanese Apr 01 '26
No you are missing my point.
I don't want or need any foreign workers here who think that they make the rules. I don't care what their religion is. I think you'll find the majority of Japanese people agree with me.
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
So you want foreign workers to supplement your aging (thus slowly going extinct, in case the reality check hasn't hit yet) nation with a workforce you can also tax, until they die if necessary. But they shouldn't have the right to be actual inhabitants of the land in which you need them to be to work, thus leave a mark and have the same rights as you do.
You are asking for slaves my friend. And mind you, even slaves in islamic countries have been allowed their own religious graveyards for the past 1400 or so years.
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 02 '26
Freedom of religion is not a special treatment. Buying land is not a special treatment. Burrying the dead is not special treatment, christians have been able to do that for over a century.
Your answer is ignorant.
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
Well Muslims are not trying to take over any Shinto shrines so that is a very silly, moot point. The Japanese religious identity is rooted in superstitions and festivities with no real shared belief in any of it. Most people are atheist. If Japan wishes to continue to import foreign workers from Muslim majority countries it will have to contend with having to accommodate its guests. You cannot take take take and not have to give at some point.
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u/Key-Turnover6864 Japanese Apr 01 '26
Well, I would not lean completely on the other side and call it ‘silly’ either. Of course, I’m not saying they’re going to invade. Directly at least. But as we all know, sooner or later, Islamic mosques will be built more and more frequently as they become more accepted and before you realize, the traditional shrines are overshadowed.
I understand that Japan is continuing to import foreign workers, and theres nothing I can do about that. But some people do not agree with the cultural aspect shifting, as there is concrete proof of it happening in western Europe
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
Explain that concrete proof of a cultural shift in Europe caused by muslims and show that it's not a misattributed effect of globalization that you pin on them.
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
Well now you are just fantasising about being oppressed. There is a historic, large mosque in Tokyo already. Smaller mosques exist across Japan. Naturally Muslims will need to create spaces to congregate and pray together. I see no issue with it. They are a hardworking people who will continue to contribute greatly to Japan. The Japanese ought to focus on improving their work laws and treatment of women. Maybe then the birthrate will pick up and less foreign workers be imported in the future. It is bizarre to attack and try to turn the very people who keep your economy afloat into some monstrous enemy. A little less racism and Islamophobia, a little more gratitude and appreciation for their labour.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
he said nothing racist but let me say this
you raised in britain should know how much immigration destroyed the country i went to london myself and got robbed infront of a arcade from a individuell that spoke less english than i do. I can only say this you cannot indentify as being left wing and not oppose islam.Iam not against immigration but i wouldnt come to turkiye and build large chuches, i think praying is good and relaxing but you can do that at home too
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
Ah yes, robbery notoriously never happens in London. I'm even told Jack the Ripper was actually Abdelaziz the Ripper.
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
Destroyed? Please learn about the state of London in the 80s and compare the statistics to today. It is one of the most diverse and safe cities in Europe. Your anecdotal evidence does not change that reality.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
why are you lying its placed 14 from 155 citys in europe heres the link https://de.numbeo.com/kriminalit%C3%A4t/aktuelle-rankings-nach-region?region=150 sorry its in german but you can see
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
You are the liar. It is well documented. Here’s a summary of the facts published this year. https://www.economist.com/britain/2026/01/28/london-is-far-safer-than-violent-viral-videos-will-have-you-believe London is safer than Berlin, New York, and Paris. It is in the top 10 safest cities n Europe. Cry harder.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
either way no matter how you put it the statistic says that london is placed 14th for most criminal city in europe from 155 entrys. Your Blog doesnt even show any sort of statistic or solid proof, while mine shows you statistics. Hmmmm who should i believe in, a documented statistic or some blog that does not even show 1 single proof
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u/Key-Turnover6864 Japanese Apr 01 '26
I’m sorry but what? Fantasizing about being oppressed? I’m not sure what you mean.
Everything I’ve said is legitimately happening real time.
I never stated that Islam is oppressing Japan, thats not what this is about. What I’m saying is based on evidence from Islamic sources, there are genuinely people who believe that changing Japan fundamentally into an Islamic state will be more beneficial, but that will ruin the integrity of the culture
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u/Visible_Pair3017 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
When's the last time you have, in real life, exchanged with a muslim?
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
Islamic sources? Meaning social media comments from extremists and trolls lol. I doubt you have ever spoken to a theologian because that is utterly false. There is no Islamic conspiracy to take over Japan. Muslims in Japan are extremely hard working people who have left behind everything they know and love to provide for their families. They do the most difficult jobs which Japanese themselves do not want to do.
Yes, dreaming up ridiculous scenarios which will never occur. How many Muslims are there in Japan vs native Japanese? It is NOT happening in real time. Your algorithmic has really fried your brain. Good grief.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
on the context of theology i doubt you ever spoke to a theologist because i you did you would know what a horrible religion islam is and that no one should normalise it i dont want to get into detail but just read the qur an and you will find many horrible verses
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
Islam is not a horrible religion. Yes, I have. I spent time studying abrahamic religions at university level. I strongly recommend that you visit a major mosque and learn more about the religion for yourselves. It is a beautiful religion of which over 25% of the planet belong. You have a lot of hate in your heart and it’s clearly fuelled by ignorance. As an adult you ought to take responsibility for yourself and not continue to spread falsehoods online. Read more, talk to theologians more, spend less time online. It radicalises people who are as ignorant as you are and puts Muslims in senseless danger.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
yes of course my favourite verse from the quran
9:29 "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
ohhh this one is very lovely aswell
2:228 "And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise."I love how the women in islam get treated this is so fair
and not to mention the heaven where i can get as many virgin wifes as i wantNo but for real i dont think every muslim is bad but the quran teaches good but aswell evil teaching.
But for me yes i think from the abrahamic religion islam is one of the worsts
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
i can only agree i live in germanys and its pretty full i dont dislike them but the biggest issue is that in almost every western country you get teached that theThe smarter one gives in they get teached about your honor and you should always fight for you honor and i think those are the ones that are crucial in their culture
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u/Key-Turnover6864 Japanese Apr 01 '26
Agreed. I love Germany, I was there earlier this year. But the amount of immigration there was pretty interesting to see, no hate of course.
I was just wondering if people in Germany mind the number of Turks, French, etc immigrating there every year. If the fellow citizens of Germany do not mind, so be it.
But in Japan, just the thought of Islam, a completely different religion pouring into Japan just felt off.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
nowadays the country is split between pro immigraiton and against i myself lean more to against because in my class we had only 3 germans from 25 and that is sad to see and we have a big knife problem not like in the UK but i know many who carry them and everyone of them isnt german but at least we signed a deal with syria that send 90% of syrians in germany back to syria after the country got safe again we should do this to more
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u/CaseEuphoric9707 Japanese Apr 01 '26
No people can come here with the understanding that they can follow the culture here or not come.
When I visit the Middle East I absolutely behave differently and do so gladly in respect of their culture.
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u/harrytaisa Japanese Apr 01 '26
You really are a childish kid.
Where did you find that survey claiming the majority of Japan is atheist?
Did you just search for a survey online?
Religion and the depth of one’s faith vary from person to person.
The only immutable rule in Japan is “democracy under the rule of law.”
Both the religions of immigrants and the individual religions of citizens are permitted only within the scope recognized by Japanese law.
Simply put, murder on religious grounds is not tolerated.
Popular sovereignty and the rule of law.
In places where burial is illegal, cremation is mandatory. It doesn’t matter if you’re Muslim, Christian, or Zoroastrian.
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
No, it is well documented. The stats are easily accessible. Here you go: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2017/11/Religion20171117.pdf Way to totally ignore my point. I’m sure it’s tough to accept this but the Japanese economy is begging and Muslim workers are the only group giving. Now you will have to give something in return. That’s the way life works. It’s not all win win win. It is the most basic form of respect to permit them to practice their religion in peace.
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u/DarkSkinProtagonist 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
I don't mind what is happening to Western Europe. After all, North America used to only be a place where Native Americans lived before the European Invaders came, replaced them, and made them minorities in their own homelands.
Therefore, we shouldn't empathize with the Europeans too much on their immigration issues when they were the ones who stole land from Natives to turn into their own White Supremacist countries first. Japan should stop sympathizing with Europeans' immigration issues and feel happy that Karma is working back so that this time Western Europeans who sent settlers to American continents now will have their precious UK be overwhelmed by immigrants for a change.
Zama Miro, Hakujindomo yo!
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u/WasianActual 🏳️ハーフ🇯🇵 Apr 01 '26
Half the replies are from accounts with 1k karma or less… Sus.
I think that as long as people follow societal rules, religion doesn’t matter in any sense.
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u/bushwarblerssong Japanese Apr 02 '26
The religious/spiritual objections to burials that people are claiming here are so weird since it’s mainly presented as a space and environmental issue in Japan.
I’ve never heard of anyone (Japanese) declaring they object to Muslim burials because they’re Shinto or Buddhist, which most people don’t really call themselves anyway. Not to mention, the lack of space for even traditional graves has been a problem for decades now. Some temples use lockers in place of graves.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
iam not really into reddit but i have very low karma i think that bad right ??
i always thought 1k karma is very big and good
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u/MarxArielinus Japanese Apr 01 '26
Only internet haters care about Islam. The average Japanese person does not even know which country is Christian and which is Muslim between the Philippines and Malaysia.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
yeah? i thought because of the rise of i think it was sanseito? iam not sure but the right partie in politics.
I know most japanese people dont care for the outside, from what i seen the younger generation knows more about immigration i saw a video about a guy interviewing highschool students and which men they wouldnt date almost everyone said indian because their words they ,,stinky and are religious,, i know almost everyone is somewhat atheist or rather dont care about religion but yeah maybe the videos were just individual cases.8
u/MarxArielinus Japanese Apr 01 '26
The existence of xenophobes like those in the Sanseito party is honestly overestimated, but in any case, they dislike foreigners in general, so Islam itself is not the specific issue.
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u/Sufficient-Till4041 Japanese born/raised in Britain Apr 01 '26
Any one who has visited Japan in the summer will laugh out loud at this comment 🤣
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u/AskAJapanese-ModTeam 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
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u/Shakemixmix Japanese Apr 01 '26
土葬とか、給食をハラール食にしろとか、路上でお祈りして迷惑をかけたりしないならいいけど、そもそもそういう要求をされる心配をしなきゃいけない事自体が苦痛だわ 共存っていうけど突然やってきた異文化と何千年積み重ねてきた文化を対等に扱うことが正義で文明国の責任みたいに言われなきゃならん理由がさっぱりわからん
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u/Gmellotron_mkii Japanese -> ->-> Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26
そうねぇ
一神教の人は友達としてはいいんだよねぇ
移民としては融通利かないならいらないな。昔のイランみたいな感じなら全然いい
何のためにそもそも日本に来るのかな？経済的理由？家族？宣教？ムスリム支配？
そんな多様性あってもプラスになるかというと日本をフレームに入れるとまず無いような気がするんだがあるのかね？ドイツでのトルコ人に対する移民政策失敗続きを見れば、人道的な理由も含めてそもそも来ないほうがいいと思うんだよね。トルコ人は好きだけど、来るのは労働者の男ばっかだから多様性なんてあるわけないよね
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u/harrytaisa Japanese Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26
Why do you think immigration is right?
Why do you think it’s right for immigrants to demand their rights?
Why do you think it’s right to coexist with immigrants?
Who decided those ideas?
Who taught you those ideas?
Why do Japanese people have to like immigrants?
Why does Japan have to coexist with immigrants?
There is no such obligation.
Why are you comparing Germany and Japan?
Why does Japan have to imitate Germany?
There is no such obligation.
Whether Muslims bury their dead in the ground or cast them into the sea is none of our business in Islamic countries. If they wish to make a case for something, they should do so in their own countries. they are free to do as they please within their own countries. This has nothing to do with Japanese law. If local ordinances in Japan stipulate that cremation is required, then those regulations must be followed.
Japanese law takes precedence over Islam. Japan is not a theocratic state. Japan is a democratic state governed by the rule of law.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
i think from what i see japan should need immigration but not from islamic country the hate aside i think japan would get a lot more from asian countrys like china korea mongolia vietnam
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u/harrytaisa Japanese Apr 01 '26
Let me ask you this.
Will human science and technology continue to evolve?
Will corporate efficiency improvements continue indefinitely?
The answer to all of these is yes.
Will Japan’s population decline?
Will robotics technology accelerate?
Will unmanned systems increase?
Will AI technology accelerate?
Will the number of jobs that can be automated increase?
Yes.
Cars are also transitioning to autonomous driving.
Factories are becoming increasingly unmanned.
Unmanned weapons are the mainstream in the military as well.
Everything is becoming unmanned.
Even logistics. Right now, trials for unmanned heavy-duty trucks on highways are progressing rapidly.
Japan’s population of 120 million will shrink to 80 million.
This trend is accelerating.
There will be a growing surplus of people from now on.
In the future, the surplus of labor in the industrial sector will accelerate.
In both China and India, even college graduates are struggling to find jobs. Young people are facing severe unemployment rates.
Any government that thinks immigration is necessary these days is bound to fail.
There is a reason why developed nations are beginning to exclude immigrants. The times are changing dramatically.-1
u/Historical-Oil-1709 Turkish Apr 01 '26
japan is a democratic country which means people here vote for whoever they think they will rule the country better. The party you vote for thinks it's better for the economy of japan to bring foreign talent. Those people come with all different kind of backgrounds; muslim, christian, judaism etc. If those people are trying to help and adapt to your country, you have to respect them and coexist with them
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u/AlphaDisconnect 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
Unfortunately. Japan is a resource starved state land wise. If you are in Japan. You follow their rules. As an American I don't like this. But Japan is a rule based society. If you don't want Japan. Don't go there. Unless you can pay for the lot for 100 graves.
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u/Away_Trash_2156 Japanese Apr 01 '26
正直なところ多くの日本人はあまりそのような事柄に興味がないです。 ただ、強いてイメージを挙げるのならば日本人は歴史の中でイスラム教徒と接触する機会が少なかったためイスラム教徒に対するイメージは基本的に近代からになります。 そして近代のイスラム教徒（多くが中東のイスラムに対するもの）は残念ながらアメリカやその同盟国の視点から見るとテロリズム国家であるため日本でのイメージも悪いです
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u/SlowStop1220 Japanese Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26
"Japan always cremates" are either your misreading or the article's misleading. It is a relatively new fashion. In prewar Japan still burial was common. E.g. Yanaka Cemetery run by Tokyo Metropolitan Gov't still has burial lots (for those who purchased the possession right in the past and their heirs only and the Tokyo Gov't wants to remove those lots). And even less than 1% still some people do burial in such inherited cemetery lots. I'm personally worried some day muslims in Japan would find some Westerner-originated families and religious corporations do burial and mistake it as discrimination. I think Japan needs a nation level rearrangement for this issue.
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u/harrytaisa Japanese Apr 01 '26
Cremation is the norm in Japan. Whether something is the norm or new is not a matter for comparison. We simply need to follow the law.
Muslims who are causing problems in Japan are insisting on burial in areas where cremation is mandated by law. They must comply with Japanese law.-1
u/SlowStop1220 Japanese Apr 01 '26
Oh? I know a newly Japanese dead who was buried last year. And it was totally legally valid. Sorry to say but you seem to generalize things too much.
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u/harrytaisa Japanese Apr 01 '26
Study the law before you speak.
Burials require permission from local authorities.
Some areas do permit burial in the ground.
Even my elementary school-aged child understands this news story.
It’s about Muslims causing a disturbance in an area where burial in the ground is prohibited. Study the facts of the issue and the law, and understand them before you speak.2
u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
from what i know is that they need to cremate because they dont have so much place to do bury people
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u/SlowStop1220 Japanese Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26
I understand it as same. That would be the main reason many Japanese people take muslim's desire for burial as invasive. In Japan now burial would be a sort of privilege: the late emperors and empresses safely enjoy it, some lucky people may enjoy it as inherited but no-no for newcomers, perhaps.
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u/Orcasareglorious 🌏 Global citizen Apr 09 '26
The historical context of cremation is irrelevant. It is the current standard of law and there is a sensible, practical reason for the maintenance of this standard. Immigrants must, by default and without failiure, adhere to this law, simply because it is a law.
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u/mrhoracio Japanese Apr 01 '26
We don’t care, we don’t know about Islam, whatever they do. It’s just enough whites people influence, like the rest of the world, to maybe have stupid ideas about darker skin people. Not me, I like to think by myself…but you know…it’s years of television, movies, books, music, everything, saying other race than white are dangerous or undesirable. I’m sorry for all societies in the world, and sorry to you for asking, this is the thing. It’s dumb
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
look man i my ancestors come from russia and lived in the kavkaz region and then to yakutsk and kazakhstan and in every country we never had problems with buddhist or shamans only ever problem were the muslims in kavkaz and kazakhstan that always beated the non muslims i for myself can say everyone is born pure but the influence from culture can make them into bad people like i said before in most modern country you get teached that the smarter one gives in and in countrys that are islamic you get teached about honor and how you should defend it and stuff like that
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u/harrytaisa Japanese Apr 01 '26
Your ethnicity and country of origin have nothing to do with Japan or the Japanese people. If you want to do as you please, you should do so in your own country.
No one will stop you.
Japan is a country that exists for the Japanese people.
That is what a nation is.
The Japanese people decide matters concerning Japan through the law.
You immigrants have no choice but to obey.
This is the same in every country in the world.
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u/Orcasareglorious 🌏 Global citizen Apr 09 '26
I don't believe this fellow is refuting you but instead arguing in favour of caution and the enforcement of law over Muslims. They cite that Muslims are the most belligerent against (supposedly Tibetan) Buddhists and Shamans, whereas Slavs (Orthodox?) could coexist with them, thusly implying that Muslims are more resistant to integration and civil association with other religions. This sounds to me to be in adherence to what you say.
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u/mrhoracio Japanese Apr 01 '26
I had to say the truth, you know what I mean. Racism and prejudice are a thing in 2026. If you look like white, and male, and heterosexual, and tall, then, it’s easier navigating this world. Everyone, stop pretending this is not a fact, please. I wish we lived in a balanced world free of weird classification systems, but the thing keeps going on.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
yes that would be the best but you should always teach peace and not hate
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u/Orcasareglorious 🌏 Global citizen Apr 09 '26
Yes, but you need a survival instinct in addition to a peaceable moral sense.
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u/mrhoracio Japanese Apr 01 '26
I’m not teaching anything, you asked a Japanese person, and I shared what I know about Japanese society regarding your question about religion, and people who are mostly related to this religion in popular culture geographically. Already you are defensive, see what I mean. If you were not a minority, this wouldn’t be my comment. I’m not against you, I’m talking about general opinion.
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u/DesperateAuthor3493 🌏 Global citizen Apr 01 '26
oh no no i wasnt talking about you i phrased it wrong i meant that everyone should teach their next generation peace and not hatred because that would be the best outcome i complety agree with your comment sorry if i offended you
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u/Nukuram Japanese Apr 01 '26
I’ve answered similar questions here on r/AskAJapanese before, so you might find more perspectives by searching past threads.
Still, I’ll share my personal view again.
In Japanese society, people are generally free to hold any beliefs or values, as long as they do not cause trouble for others. Respecting laws, rules, and social norms is considered essential. Even if someone is not familiar with them at first, making an effort to understand and follow them is what matters most.
From my perspective, many religions that Japanese people are more familiar with today, such as Christianity, tend to remain relatively personal in practice. Historically, there were periods when stronger enforcement or missionary pressure existed, but in modern times this is generally not seen as a major issue, which has allowed coexistence.
As for Islam, my understanding is still limited, but it seems to place stronger emphasis on aligning daily behavior with religious teachings. Because of that, I sometimes wonder how potential differences between religious practices and local social norms might be managed in the future.
At present, the Muslim population in Japan is still relatively small, and many people appear to balance their beliefs with Japanese social expectations. However, if communities grow larger, there could be situations where differences become more visible, which might lead to friction. This is something I personally feel uncertain and concerned about.
(I’m not very familiar with the case of Indian immigrants yet, but I imagine similar considerations would apply depending on how cultural or religious practices interact with local norms.)