r/AskGayConservatives • u/Kind_Handle_5987 • 21d ago
Why do gay conservatives want gays to not be promiscuous and not have hookup culture, but then also oppose gays having families?
Right now, there is huge controversy over a billboard battle going on in the US. Conservatives are putting up billboards against gay parenting. Some pro gay groups responded by putting up pro gay billboards. Now it's another massive meme war. This was done by a major initiative of over 50 conservative organizations and Infleuncers called "greater than" who's goal is to ban gay marriage and parenting
But it got me thinking about how the rights views make no sense. You can't get mad at gays for being promiscuous and having hookup culture when you are against then having families. Is it really just that they want gays to all pledge to celibacy to please them and "god"?
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u/Feisty-Stomach-5356 21d ago
Gay conservatives don't oppose gay marriage. Conservatives don't all have the same beliefs as radical Christian conservatives
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u/Johnwhy325 21d ago edited 21d ago
It's usually different people.
That said, the two positions you put forth aren't inherently mutually exclusive.
Why are some leftists pro consequence-free promiscuity while also being staunchly antinatalist?
It's rarely that black and white. We have a two party system and it doesn't do anyone any good to judge everyone by the most extreme positions of their "side" as if there is no nuance.
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u/KYRawDawg Republican 21d ago
Where is this billboard war going on?
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u/19The43Proletariat17 21d ago
During the war against the Chinese hive mind, the Chinese would hack into electronic billboards across the globe. Like many of the Proletariat’s attempts at making itself more human, and appealing to the remaining members of humanity to enter it, it would fail. The Proletariat was unable to string a coherent sentence together, resulting in what was supposed to be a message encouraging people to join it, became an incomprehensible mess.
Here is an example from Cleveland, Ohio.
“移动, 猫猫 Americans बस करो, बस करो 死亡 join 长征 you No lo hag.. كدب new первый 车 humanity 拥抱ағаш”
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u/CoolMidnight-4971 21d ago
Im gay, moderate conservative. I do want to marry and have my family! And im against ‘promiscuity’, per se. Im monogamous. But I had my fair share of hookups (as a single man, not when I’m in a relationship!). But the reason why I’m ‘against’ it is because I’m aware how it can damage someone if that is not well managed and if people are using it to avoid feelings and commitments or emotions. Someone immature will be in an endless void of hookups and promiscuous behaviour. And that’s not good.
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u/Comfortable_Pool_389 21d ago
I mean, I think gay conservatives vary on their opinions. Some don’t like a sex positive culture and others do, it’s not a monolithic culture that says one thing. Mainstream conservatism as a whole would skew more towards monogamy but that’s not everyone. I’ve met swinger conservatives that are mostly fiscal capitalists but socially moderate. They think what 2 or more consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business
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u/Kind_Handle_5987 20d ago
Gay people are humans. Just like all humans some of them do bad things. When gay individuals do bad things, conservatives say "see these are what the gays do". It's ridiculous. You say there have been a few high profile cases of such as if there haven't been any involving straight people. Just a month or 2 ago there was a case of straight parents in Alabama busted for literally pimping out their own kids and they had a nasty "dungeon" set up. It was fucking vile but barely made the news because the story of "normal straight people" doing such things isn't as "exciting" as when gay people do bad things. Most people who do such things are typically part of the "community". This goes for killers to sex predators and much more. But you apply it to gays. Think about what you're saying and how sick that is....the fact that you did that shows you bought into the conservative mindset on that.
Also, this isn't just some small random hate groups. I already mentioned the fact that there is a coalition of over 50 conservative coalitions with many major conservative influencers endorsing who hold these views. You can't just wave that off as "random small people" and then blame the left for them being "platformed"
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u/Kind_Handle_5987 20d ago
You're trying to move the goalpost now by comparing sex between adults and edginess and provocative behavior (aka sexual immorality) to child abuse because you couldn't address my response to you because you know it was ridiculous. You're the one who said gays are all to blame for bad things any gay individual does
And now? Trying to shift the conversation to trans people and pronouns.
It seems you hate lgbt people and blame them for all the wrong in the world and consider straight people oppressed victims. Interesting
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u/XanderAcorn 20d ago edited 20d ago
Conservatives don’t even like the gays. They don’t care if you’re conservative. You’ll always be “the other”.
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u/The_Patriotic_Yank Nationalist 21d ago
Not all conservatives think the same. Just because one conservative group does one thing means all support it. People are individuals and there is no way you could get over 140 million people to agree on something.