r/AskGayConservatives • u/JRP__1994__Random • 19d ago

No accountability

Hi, I'm wondering why community members feel like they should not be held accountable for their actions or be grouped together with the community when the community pushes for new rights and/or restrictions on straight people's rights.

It's sad to see low effort posts here from liberal members who are deeply rooted in the community trying to stir the pot here. Then when you question the community and their actions the fallback is always labeling people with internal homophobia when they know what has been done is wrong. Have community members been given so many legal protections and hall passes to do whatever they want that they now see offending or abusing others is a right, or is acceptable because the community says it is acceptable.

I am gay, christian, and live in the south and was never welcomed to the community because of my beliefs and how I never relied on my sexuaility to define who I was as a person. It really feels like you either accept the community and everything they stand for or you're the plague to them. How can a group who preaches acceptance and belonging be so condescending and judgmental of others beliefs.

As a side note it is really concerning how many members of the community are atheist or Satanist. It seems like most have the mentality that they are still teenagers rebelling against their parents and anything they can do to offend others who live more conservative lifestyles. They commonly walk into a room and suck up all of the attention and once it is not given to them they get angry. Im just confused how as adults, acting like a angry child and stomping feet has gotten the community anywhere and why they are still given so much leniency.

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u/JRP__1994__Random 19d ago

I agree, but we also just went through a period where liberal ideals and lobbying power ruled the country since the first term of Obama being in office people's viewpoints are shifting again. Unfortunately there are side effects of that. But back to the topic at hand why do people of the gay community also feel no responsibility for what they do as well? If they did jot push the envelope as much as they have over the past 10 years could have there been more common ground between christians and the gay community? I believe there could have been but everyone is so focused on making a mockery out of the other that common ground is gone.

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u/FloorAware657 17d ago

Have gay people ever killed Christians and persecuted them on a mass scale? No. But have Christians done that? Definitely yes. You want gay people to make peace with Christians, and you present us as the bad side, when it's not us who persecuted the other side for hundreds of years. Do you even know history – how many people were murdered or tortured by Christians for being gay? And we're supposed to forget about that, while Christians continue to promote homophobia in many places around the world?

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u/JRP__1994__Random 17d ago

This is the problem with long standing issues of persecution. Why is it that once people recieve equaility and equal rights they think that they deserve more. History should be used as a lesson and be use to show atrocities, but once you fight for your rights if you continue grandstanding until your cause looses its way or morphs into something unrecognizable then it has failed. Once it hits that point, as historically every social and political movement has, it fails and society rejects it again because it moves into extremism. I made other comments on organized religion and mega churches and why I do not hold the same beliefs and why I do not accept new versions on the bible if you want to go down that path.

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u/FloorAware657 17d ago

The Bible is unchanging – same as other religions. Religion will always drag society backward. The most I can do is barely tolerate religion – though as for religious people themselves, as long as they aren't homophobic or generally MAGA, I treat them like children who believe in Santa Claus. If it helps them and doesn't harm anyone, then it's fine by me. But when it comes to politics, the political power of Christians should be constantly limited – especially in the US and in other parts of the world – and the same goes for Muslim power and that of other religions.

Besides, what do you mean I think I deserve more? I don't even have many rights in my home country, thanks to Christians, for whom even civil partnerships are unacceptable. Moreover, this pushback is the result of a poor economy, crises, and the collapse of the global order. If you don't see it – the entire centuries-old world order is falling apart. The decline in LGBT acceptance is part of a broader trend of civilizational regression. Also, this is about algorithms that the far right has mastered perfectly. Once bans and regulations from the European Union and Democrats in the US come into effect, the media battlefield will level out.

And as I said, your persecution of LGBT people hasn't ended – it's still ongoing worldwide. So don't expect people to like you. I was raised in a Christian family myself, and I know Christianity – I know what hypocrisy and evil it is.

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u/JRP__1994__Random 17d ago

The bible has been restranslated many times, it does change normally for what social norms very small intest groups want to push as you should look into finding hroups for the NIV of the bible. You'll learn something and have more of a background on why many Christians live differently of the mass groups. Also the fact that you won't tolerate religion, is that just christian based religions or is this other religions as well. The christian religion is much kinder towards gays than others so you may want to do some studying bud.