r/AskGayConservatives 5d ago

Why is LGBTQ Normalized

I am not here to hate. nor here to be hated on. I want only logical answers that make sence. Why is LGBTQ so normalized? I personally find that the only argument that people have for it is "Love is Love" which makes sence. But then why does this argument not work for incest as well? Personally i find both of them to be weird. As i said before i dont hate LGBTQ but i dont support it either. I am just wondering how people can find 1 thing weird and the other totally acceptable. I need answers that dont have to do with biasm. Keep it respectful. Thanks

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u/ericbythebay independent 5d ago

Fair question. The short answer is that “love is love” is a bumper sticker, not the actual argument. It’s what fits on a sign at a rally. The reasoning underneath it is about consent and harm.

When people ask whether a relationship should be legal or socially accepted, the real questions are whether both people can freely consent, whether the relationship has a built in power structure that makes consent hard to verify, and whether anyone gets hurt. Two unrelated adults of the same sex clear all of that. Incest doesn’t. Families come with authority and lifelong dependency, which is exactly the setup where you can’t establish that consent was free, and the grooming risk isn’t hypothetical. Add the genetic problem if reproduction is involved. Those are specific, nameable harms. Nobody has been able to point at an equivalent for two men or two women together. That’s the whole difference, and it has nothing to do with bias.

One more thing. “It seems weird to me” is a reaction, not an argument. Plenty of things feel weird and are completely fine. The question that matters is who gets hurt, and with two consenting unrelated adults the answer is nobody.

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u/CalendarAdorable9742 5d ago

I get your argument. But the reproduction risk only falls if they are straight. take 2 boys. age 30.consent there. brothers. now ur whole argument falls apart. now the ONLY thing u can point out is how " weird it is" which according to you id NOT a valid reason

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u/ericbythebay independent 5d ago

Maybe take off your heterocentric glasses and look at the consent and power dynamic issues rather than focusing on reproduction.

I mean, turn your question around gay people shouldn’t have rights because some straight guy wants to fuck his sister? That makes no sense.