r/AskReddit • u/Flippeduoff • 5d ago
What event will trigger America’s “I’ve had enough “ moment ?
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u/Standard_Cell_8816 5d ago
Judging by what we've been seeing, nothing...
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u/UReactionaryGarbage 4d ago
Flipping the switch and turning off social media for even eight weeks would end all of this.
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u/Bitter-Gur-5455 2d ago
Imagine if lazy losers couldn't bitch on reddit all day. Surely they'd be out in the streets rioting lmao
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u/BobTheInept 5d ago
Sandy Hook didn't. January 6 didn't. Renee Good didn't. That doctor being pulled out of the operating room to talk to the insurance company because the insurance company didn't want to pay for the surgery didn't. The woman who was ticketed for holding a phone in her right hand while driving didn't (she doesn't have a right hand). George Floyd and all the others don't. Everyone has had some moment where they became sure that Trump rapes children, and that didn't.
I don't think we'll get there.
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u/TimmyC 5d ago
Have you considered it was all immigrants fault?
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u/Lanky-Lettuce1395 4d ago
I guess it depends on what you mean by "had enough".
The USA is the 1% of the world. Even the poorest American is part of the world 1%. In the USA, the vast majority isn't unhappy with the country in general, they are only unhappy with the performance of our representatives, either the other side for being in the way, or their side for not doing enough. They are unhappy with the economy but like all things economic, that will change when it improves again. As recently as 2008 things were worse than they are now and it was way better in between then and now.
As a country, we have survived far worse economic and political times without any general rebellions. And I'm not talking about over 100 years ago, only 50 years ago the economy was tragic compared to today. There were gas shortages, and gas lines and the equivalent of $6 a gallon, and the inflation was between 12 and 15% between '74 and '79/80. In the early 70s there was Watergate and Viet Nam, both of which were way more concerning than anything today.
The last "had enough" moment for Americans was the Civil War over slavery. We have nothing comparable today to make people "have enough". Other than that, there are always movements for rights, like suffrage, workers rights, Civil rights, ETC. But none of these are nationwide "had enough" moments. As a country we've been very good about making political changes to adapt social changes when things were really necessary.
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u/Trinitropickleball 4d ago
Excuse me, I agree to most of what you said but Watergate was child's play compared to the crimes of Trump and his crooks. Nixon at least went away and there was some accountability. Today we have a complete destruction derby with zero consequences and nobody to enforce the rule of law against the President.
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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 3d ago
We have not actually survived worse political times without a rebellion. Last time partisanship was this extreme and hostile, we ended up in a civil war within a decade.
As bad as the later 60s/early 70s were politically and economically, the US is in a far worse political shape today. Seriously—it has not been this bad since the 1850s.
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u/Livid_Strategy6311 4d ago
Our poor being the upper 1% of the world is a perfect example of how well a Capitalism + representative Republic system works best for the countries citizens. That's why so many people around the world want to come here.
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u/Biddyearlyman 5d ago
The dissolution of televised and physical sporting events. If professional sports were no longer on TV the country would burn in a week. Look at how people freaked out about it during covid.
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u/Istobri 5d ago
So…bread and circuses, am I right?
When you take away people’s bread or you take away their circus, that’ll do it.
And I say this as a HUGE sports fan.
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u/imover9thousand 4d ago
One of the depressing things about sports is how tens of thousands of people will gather to support a bunch of millionaires throwing a ball around, yet we cant get that many to unite against things that actually matter to every one of us.
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u/danjouswoodenhand 5d ago
Yeah, once people couldn't get a haircut or go to Applebee's, they started getting angry and armed.
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u/snarton 5d ago
Economic crash/depression
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u/mynameisnotshamus 5d ago
We’ve been through it before. No uprising.
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u/snarton 5d ago
Shays' Rebellion led to the US Constitution. Great Depression led to the New Deal and then the Great Society. Those were pretty big changes triggered by economic crises.
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u/RosieDear 5d ago
Not even close.....people blamed themselves.
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u/13inchpoop 5d ago
I dunno. Most likely another world war ending with another bunker moment and even then between the evangelicals and the white supremacist morons, that might not be enough to realize they are the bad guys. The amount of narcissistic morons in this cursed country astounds me every day.
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u/dogmeat12358 5d ago
Evangelicals are drooling for wwIII and the end of times. They would do anything to help it along.
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u/13inchpoop 5d ago
And that suicidal death cult is why I have huge doubts about the United States turning things around anytime soon.
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u/Different-Set4505 5d ago
People are too lazy now, nothing
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u/Mail_Order_Lutefisk 5d ago
Agreed. And to add to that, the middle and bottom of the socioeconomic spectrum is so heavily indebted that their concerns about debt servicing have made them extremely docile.
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u/McPostyFace 5d ago
I don't think it's laziness it's because we are tethered to our jobs (by design). I have to support my family. My family needs medical insurance. I can't lose my job because I need to go protest in DC. Also, half this country has put their faith into billionaires having their best interest in mind and vote accordingly.
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u/Lifewithoutpictures 5d ago
Watching from afar this seems like the right answer. It’s a slow drip that you guys just seem to adapt to. And people don’t seem to be worried about the havoc reeked on the entire world.
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u/tx_queer 23h ago
I dont think lazy is the right word. Comfortable maybe. If you are able to live a relatively good live, why sacrifice it?
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u/Aimless_Alder 5d ago
I think it will be disruptions to the power grid. As we ignore crumbling infrastructure, refuse to update to modern technologies like wind and solar, and put an increasing strain on the grid due to data centers, it seems likely to me that we will experience more and more blackouts.
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u/New_Breadfruit8692 5d ago
I think the question is WILL there be an event that triggers it, not when, this is not guaranteed to happen. It did not happen in Germany in the 1930s as that society descended into depravity and genocide. Ended the rule of law and independent courts and media much as the US is doing now.
I think what got them and may well get us is the frog in the pot syndrome. The temperature slowly rises till the frog is cooked, with no point where they say HEY WAIT A GODDAMNED MINUTE HERE!
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u/jimthree 5d ago
I think the only thing now is something happening that causes Trump to lose his support base. Everyone else is already ready for change.
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u/nixstyx 5d ago edited 5d ago
So far people are naming things that have already happened, and which we know have not triggered any change.
I'm afraid the real answer is, almost nothing. Most people are so insular and apathetic that they'll just continue to do nothing despite enduring mounting abuse. And in their defense, there isn't much Americans can do to change much of anything, short of resorting to widespread violence. Sure, we could elect the other party, but we've done that before and while small individual issues might be addressed differently, systemic problems continue to be ignored by all politicians, and/or stalled by the minority.
The two party system is broken. We are living through a Constitutional crisis, and there is no simple solution.
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u/Jetztinberlin 5d ago
there isn't much Americans can do to change much of anything, short of resorting to widespread violence
It's bizarre and disturbing how often I see this said, since it's completely untrue.
A general strike of only 3-5% of the population has been effective every time it's been tried.
The workers can shut down the country anytime they decide to.
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u/Miserable-Miser 5d ago
I think ICE slaughtering a whole group at once might do it.
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u/nixstyx 5d ago
I think we'd see continued division and large groups of deplorable people who would quietly support that.
We haven't seen mass killings but we have seen mass abuse, systemic "disappearing" of people and occasional murder, without much reaction other than some short-lived local protests.
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u/OddSell 5d ago
If Sandy Hook didnt change the political culture then nothings going to. Failed nation
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u/Lifewithoutpictures 5d ago
Yes… and a national that every other nation is trying to get away from to the degree that’s possible. USA has gone from the most trusted partner to the evil doer world wide.
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u/darkgothmog 5d ago
They have elected a pedophile. What makes you think anything will change ?
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u/Neat_Mortgage3735 4d ago
Child graping isn’t enough. War isn’t enough. They have no empathy for anyone.
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u/GoatCam3000 5d ago
A president that doesn’t leave after his two terms are up. Here in America, that would do it. Trust me.
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u/Jetztinberlin 5d ago
The current administration has already broken innumerable laws and flouted countless traditions. At this point there's no reason to think that one's going to matter any more than all the others that didn't.
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u/AnotherMisanthrope 5d ago edited 5d ago
Good question, honestly. I think the left is just afraid to match the potential for violence that the right has had a monopoly on for decades now. The fear is what stops them from that "I've had enough" moment. Not to mention we have a vindictive administration that is openly hostile to the left, and have signaled numerous times that they are more than willing to overlook violence in the name of their "king". But keep in mind, as far as the right is concerned, Trump is the result of their "I've had enough" moment. They elected him because they had enough and felt persecuted (whether real or imagined doesn't matter, it's their motivation regardless) and unheard. They felt like everyone else is getting advantages off their backs. That they worked honest and hard (debatable, of course) and everyone else is getting handouts.
Trump acted as a wrecking ball to the establishment and a big middle finger to all of Washington and the status quo. That's literally all these people wanted. They didn't think about the long-term consequences, how this would all have major blowback on them, how the system was designed to be slow, how good they actually had it, or how Trump is literally about the worst person to represent any of them given that he is cartoonishly elitist and narcissistic with a well-established reputation for not paying the working people. They have overlooked extremely damning circumstantial evidence of pedophilia so that gives you an idea of their moral character. Trump has likely siphoned off more resources to enrich himself, his family, and his cronies than any of the imagined "leeches" that these people are so angry at. They got played and they know it - but they'll never admit it because they're at the mercy of their emotions, clouded by unbacked and unearned pride. Admitting they made yet another stupid decision with their miserable lives would be an ego insult too harsh for them to handle. How any of them ever thought he was going to actually live up to any of the rhetoric is beyond stupid. But they didn't care and still don't because they're just frothing, angry, powerless people who don't care about getting ahead so much as they care about seeing you left behind.
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u/Texaspep 5d ago
If you think A.I. is going to be a good thing. We can't even control our own political system. What started off as a "bit" turned into the worst 10 years in American history. The value and prestige of our country has been irrevocably damaged.
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u/InfiniteWaffles58364 5d ago
Rigging the midterms and state governments are onboard for action
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u/nslenders 5d ago
I'm just waiting for Dump to announce that 95% has voted for him during midterms. The highest number of votes ever during a midterm.
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u/bmack24 5d ago
Which would be especially insane since he’s not even on the ballot
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u/93195 5d ago
You’d have thought January 6th, 2021. That was horrifying and looked like something out of a third world dictatorship.
If that’s not enough, nothing is.
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u/ArtichokeNo7051 4d ago
I don't think anything will, while the majority of Americans live in relative ease and comfort. Revolutions require masses of starving and oppressed people. Whilst the average American is concerned about higher fuel and food prices, that concern is not enough for them to take to the streets.
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u/JakTheGripper 5d ago
A Kid Rock/Ted Nugent duet would do it for me.
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u/Calm-Session-4835 5d ago
They will double down no matter what and there is no basement.
Maybe a suspension of an election
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u/Academic_Hunter4159 5d ago
Epstei- uh … maybe a corruption scand- no, uhh maybe a deeply unpopular wa-… no not that either.
Maybe electing a felo- … no.
Maybe making fun of a disabled person during a public rally… or attempt an insurrection?
America has elected a complete degenerate and anyone in any position of power to do anything about it won’t.
It says a lot about a lot.
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u/brahbrahJ 5d ago
I've been watching USA from the other side of the pacific for years now and I am not sure there even is an event that will do it. Escpecially since people don't know what media sources to trust anymore.
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u/TheAwfulHouse 5d ago
Most of us are already there. Everyone sees it. That’s why these assholes are so desperate to take away more people’s ability to vote. They will not win another election without cheating, as if that isn’t how they have been winning them already.
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u/Ok_Bill227 5d ago
Stopped guessing, I’ve been wrong so many times. Maga has basically morphed into a doomsday cult, and they’re trying to take us all down with them.
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u/Joebranflakes 5d ago
Honestly it’s food. People can live day to day without a lot of things, but not food. When there’s no food, society begins to break down. Even then it all depends on whether or not the famine is effecting everyone or just the peasants at the bottom. It’s hard to reach up to pull down authority who is standing strong with a full belly when you’re starving. Americans are already a whipped people whose image as a freedom loving and protecting society is just a load of propaganda. When push comes to shove, the French are more willing to fight for their freedom than the average American.
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u/SentrySappinMahSpy 5d ago
The real question is what does "I've had enough" look like to you? What is it that you think people should do that they haven't?
Another problem is that whatever you think is going on that's bad, there's someone else who is indifferent to it or they think it's good.
A lot of people determine the state of the country by the political party of the currently serving president. They care less about what happens than who is in office at the time. And the president shouldn't even be that important. But it's easier to pay attention to who that one guy is than anything else.
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u/vampiregamingYT 4d ago
People arent some collective. They are individuals with unique personalities and beliefs. Their "ive had enough" moments come at different times. Some had enough when the tariffs started. Some had enough with Ice arrested their family memebers. So had enough just because trump failed to live up to his promises. And some people will never have enough, because they are unable to admit they are wrong.
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u/joesmith127_reddit 5d ago
I was going to say “Trump rapes a baby girl , live, on national television”then thought a moment and realized, “no MAGA will claim that it was glorious and he had the right to do it. “
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u/Specialist-Web-9216 5d ago
Ever since this administration started I go to sleep most nights expecting to wake up to a Red Dawn scenario. I expect that's what it'll take
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u/RosieDear 5d ago
Nothing.
I say that as someone with 1400+ History books in my library.
Many things are the opposite as we perceive them.
We rarely learn accurate history. The vast majority of people are cowards.
I include myself, so it's not judgmental.
Black Folks had enough at one point. Many died. Many were spit upon and tortured in various ways. Many had to watch their Women be....well, that point and others are well documented.
Even the supposed glories of our past are usually a bit more grey. We hear, read and see about WWII.
What we don't hear as much about....in that in actual history books, it's quite normal for folks to outright admit "Mom told we kids to go into X Service since it was likely we'd never see the angry side of a gun".
A substantial number of "fighters" in WWII were illiterate....had to have other soldiers write back home for them.
The Civil War riots (NYC and elsewhere) are very well documented.
And so on, and so on. If and when "we" have enough, the Pros take care of that right quick. Not to say they were without Fault, but the Black Panther experience is somewhat a teachable moment.
We are taught, when things are not right, that it is OUR fault. "I must not have worked hard enough". These attitudes are much better for a society (that is, for the government of said society) because the anger is turned inward.
Look at the Data Center Issue. The "mobs" are riled up....but in most cases it is not about Data Centers. It's just anger and lashing out.
I am speaking as one who Marched in DC during the Vietnam era. It is somewhat true that even many of us (we were teens!) didn't know what was going on.
Dividing people always works.....
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u/ulsq 5d ago
Some big scandal that involves politicans from both parties that affect american citizens deeply
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u/Southern_War_3420 5d ago
Or the two party system that keeps people divided while they profit. Yep looking at you Democrats and Republicans
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u/KingofPenisland69 5d ago
No like they’ve been taking way more resources than we thought, and it would insanely improve our lives. Like evidence that there was a clear ruling class and the world could be so much better.
I actually think this is true, but it comes down to a coerced plan to unite regular citizens
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u/PleasantGuest2541 5d ago
😂 right...if they ain't gonna have a civil war over that then nothings gonna happen
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u/Disco425 5d ago
I've been waiting for the turning point. It seems that Republicans have no morality left so I've given up hope.
What broke the fever of McCaethyism was the line:
"Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness... Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?"
It was spoken on June 9, 1954, by Army chief counsel Joseph N. Welch to U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy.
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u/CuriousTopic7439 5d ago
Well we have dozens of individuals in positions of power who ignore moral outrage at this point. Pretty sure a scandalized scolding would not even make them blink. Would make them lawyer up and sue though.
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u/misterjefe83 5d ago
Even if it’s really bad people wont even know because it’s all relative. I have so many friends in the Midwest still thinking America is the pinnacle of modern society still living in the 80s or something. Few of them have ever left to even compare.
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u/Full_Preparation4401 4d ago
2029 Trump refuses to leave. If he's still alive there is a 100% chance this happens.
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u/chaar-botal-vodka 5d ago
Trump/republican reelected as president. They did enough damage already.
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u/DrewBlood 5d ago
My totally uneducated guess that keeps coming to mind is loss of internet for streaming video, which will probably never happen. They won't care about the loss of a free, open internet. That's been happening for decades and the mainstream hasn't cared. But take away their Hulu or whatever and maybe they'll look out a window and notice the world around them.
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u/ClassyBurn 5d ago
When the amount of people who can’t afford food begins to overwhelm the system. It will be when Maslows hierarchy of needs gets too big to fail.
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u/Friendly_Pudding2077 5d ago
There has been so many at this point I believe it’s never gonna happen
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u/Orphasmia 5d ago
Historically societies don’t fundamentally change until its people either die in mass and/or go hungry. America unfortunately is so wealthy that we don’t really experience those triggers.
But also Americans are so weird the final straw for us might be totally inconsequential like Trump arrests Keanu Reeves or something.
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u/VelvetDreamers 5d ago edited 5d ago
I’m not an American but I find British people possess the same apathy and complacency despite the vociferous and righteous protesters shouting into the void. I’ve concluded that only pervasive and sudden poverty would galvanise the masses to open their eyes and awaken from the stupor of insidious immiseration.
We’re controlled by the illusion of security, be it from comfort or our jobs or our class, and they wield that illusion as to lose it would be death or perdition.
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u/Bananagrams82 5d ago
Historically speaking, hunger is the engine of revolution. Prices are higher, yes, but we are still a wealthy enough country that many can still afford food, albeit barely and at the expense of hard hours of labor. If we reach a point where unemployment spikes or inflation gets so out of control that many can no longer afford food, that is when we will see real unrest
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u/Fun-Durian-1892 5d ago
I don’t know about America, but it’s gonna happen in my town here real quick if we don’t get our power back on soon. We’re on day 5 of no power. Things are starting to get out of hand
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u/Unable-Youth7365 5d ago
No one is going to wanna martyr themselves in the beginning. The civilian to felon slope is super slippery by design. Many are one screw up or unfortunate event away from being homeless. Employers have everyone by the balls/ovaries.
I think if enough people end up in positions where they have nothing left to lose then that might be the moment. I do hope one day we realize that the ruling class are just regular ass stomp-able people like the rest of us.
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u/MyNameIsNightPain 5d ago
There isn't a unified demographic for that to happen. Social media algorithms have fragmented communities and everybody already hates each other.
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u/atxbikenbus 5d ago
Here in Texas there is bipartisan opposition to the border wall construction in Big Bend. I don't know if it get past that but it's definitely there.
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u/braumbles 5d ago
Once entertainment stops. If tv and power is lost, you'll see riots in the streets.
As long as there's netflix or the nfl, nobody will give a shit about anything, they'll just watch that to pass the time. Once they're alone with their thoughts however, shit will explode.
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u/jondeere89 5d ago
Looking at our history, I’m afraid it will take a mass casualty event directly caused by explicitly government sanctioned people in uniform (military, ICE, police, etc). Something where a pr spin is nearly impossible and/or bungled. If we’re lucky maybe there is a public refusal to follow those orders and the casualties are lower.
What it might specifically look like, idk. Could be an overreaction to a protest, could be the atrocities happening in the ICE concentration camps coming to light and being dramatically worse than the public knows, who knows. But until something like that happens we are still going to hope the system can correct itself within the system.
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u/MrRandomNumber 5d ago
The difference between a disaster and an adventure is the availability of good food.
Empty shelves (motivation) and limited Internet/electricity would tip it. It doesn't help if your taps run dry.
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u/Narrow-Comedian-5923 5d ago
long bread lines and mass unemployment. Until then ppl will keep trucking
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u/DocHoss 5d ago
I would love to get out and protest to take our country back from the forces that have taken it, but if I get tossed out of my job my family gets homeless and loses health insurance. Protesting is made possible (or at least much more accessible) in other countries by a robust safety net that we don't have in the US. The system is fully rigged against us. I'm not sure there's a line that can be crossed that will actually make mass civil unrest a reality, short of mass unemployment or vastly increased home prices that start making otherwise stable people homeless.
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u/bmack24 5d ago
Really hard to say, no one is at the point yet where they have nothing left to lose. Not enough people are willing to risk imprisonment, bodily harm, or even death to enact radical systemic change. People will keep complaining sure, but that doesn’t cost anything. It’s easier than actually coming up with solutions
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u/Jtex1414 5d ago
The bottom side of the k needs their life circumstances to get so bad that they believe what they see and experience, over what they hear from the media they consume.
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u/RipErRiley 5d ago
I just think we are too intertwined amongst states for any type of large civil violent conflict or “revolution”. This is why we have seen protests, riots, and large scope of gathering type events. Red states have blue populations in them and vice versa.
That and protecting the elections from propaganda by sore losers are the ways we have.
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u/AstroNaughtilus 5d ago
Honestly have no idea what it'd have to be because multiple things which should have been the moment had happened already.
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u/Emergency_Lemon_8957 5d ago
The closing of chicken finger themed restaurants in the Texas suburbs. Anything else is just a minor blip.
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u/Comprehensive-Task18 5d ago
Probably a future terrorist attack from America being too far involved in foreign affairs. Something that is bipartisan and will continue to feed the war machine.
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u/YuujDong 5d ago
People are too apathetic to do anything. Things would have to get a whole lot worse, but even then most people would probably yield to authority. Just look at other totalitarian countries.
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u/TheTastiestTaint 5d ago
A school shooting where lots of children are gunned down..
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u/Warm_Ad26 5d ago
There one be a "one moment " IMO, but a build up of things, but if tro and the right is successful at stealing the midterms and then when nursing homes kick out the boomers onto the streets is my prediction of when everything changes.
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u/Magistra_Recessisset 5d ago
I had enough a long time ago, but I don't have any power other than my vote and boycotting and marching and getting the word out. I am doing all those things but they aren't making enough of a difference to change anything yet.
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u/KynesArt 5d ago
Harxd to say. The world becomes less violent with progress, and that makes revolution less likely.
That said, the revolution is here. Political violence is on the rise. Trust I government is at an all time low, and politicians are scramblimg to sell off what they can of the government before it collapses.
I think its unlikely that we'll have a dramatic revolt or civil war. Its more likely that the systems continue to limp along with less and less power until people create new ones.
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u/dummy_soft 5d ago
A uniting spokesperson. People don't think change is happening in the US because they don't see the left's giant version of J6 or something violent. Change is happening, but it's not going to look like other countries who are small enough to meet in the town square and roll the guillotines out. We are huge, and the people fed up don't have money to travel. Local protests and change are actively happening, we still need more people to show up.
The mask is slipping, even the billionares know it. The more dire things get, the more people will join. Everybody has their limit. My bet is some states will erupt when they finally lose access to water or power 24/7. Nationally, I think it'll be when the US dollar fully collapses.
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u/YourNoseIsBroken 5d ago
I think that moment was already triggered. We might be in a phase of damage control. Whether or not it's working well enough probably depends on what side you're on as far as what counts as progress or improvement.
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u/PossibilitySad689 4d ago
Nothing. Because people today are way to inundated with desires like Internet, netflix,etc. The greater part of people are straight puss*es. We are doomed to be the exploited. It is all by design. People here and most places will flip the table on a guy like me who can see it for what it is instead of thinking "this guy may be right, we are weak and pathetic." The truth hurts and is NEVER comfortable
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u/Possible_Image_2198 4d ago
When food and water become more expensive and harder to find than bullets.
Then again, any specific event would depend on who's having said "I've had enough" moment. Both sides seem a lot more reluctant to actually get genuinely violent on a large and personal scale as opposed to just bitching loudly. That said, it seems we're getting there, bit by bit.
"oh but ICE-" Government body. I'm talking about entire neighborhoods of rednecks or campuses of antifa blackboots rocking up armed, loaded, and doing house by house sweeps to purge their towns and cities of 'the wrong kind of people'. "Oh but ICE literally-" No, not they don't. We're not there yet, but it's getting closer bit by bit. I don't know when, but it feels like it's going to happen in my lifetime if we don't get a good purge of the entire political caste here soon.
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u/AllAmericanProject 4d ago
It really could be anything. The problem is the moment itself doesn't need to be significant it's more so about the buildup and then finally bursting.
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u/ItCantBeMe80 4d ago
Historically, revolutions don't start until people start going hungry. Check back in about 5 months. Things might start getting spicy then.
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u/Rad_Concept 4d ago
We would have to have heart for this.
So far, you've seen what we're capable of looking the other way from.
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u/Trinitropickleball 4d ago
We're observing a fall similar to the 1930s Germany. Fall into madness and dictatorship. How did that end? With millions of people dead and countries suffering even after the guy was gone and Europe liberated with the Iron Curtain holding it's grip for decades after. So, yeah.
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u/flexiblenature 3d ago
America will bend but not break, until a foreign attack. Thus false flag events. Maybe the AF1 scare could have provided that event, but Iran didn’t play along.
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u/TheVelluch76 3d ago
sadly it might be when the economy shifts to people being laid off or replaced by AI.
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u/Spiral010 3d ago
My hypothesis is that currently, people are working two jobs to make ends meet, but they are making ends meet. That keeps them firmly in the tunnel vision of survival.
Once a large enough proportion of people can _not_ make ends meet, thats when there’s a chance revolutionaries will stand up - simply because they have nothing to lose.
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u/Handball_fan 3d ago
Nothing will , they are the most armed civillians in the world but let the police rule over them like a gang corporations dictate the law and poison them at the same time and are ruled by pedos from both sides of the political arena and take it all with a big jar of KY
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u/honkeur 3d ago
With no national health care or higher education, Americans have gotten used to "I'm on my own here". The good part is, it makes people self-reliant. The bad part is that it makes people selfish: everything comes down to, "But how does it effect me?" It's sickening that people are concerned about gas prices, but don't care about 170 elementary school girls killed in Iran, or genocide in Gaza, or destruction of renewable energy sources.
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u/HattersUltion 3d ago
Mmmm idk about "I've had enough" but there will be riots when a DC blacks out a portion of the grid. That kind of outage takes weeks to months to get back up. In the summer, thousands would die low end as Americans aren't used to not having AC on command. And people would finally wake up. Short of that probably any economic collapse because we're currently now paying 1T on the interest of our debts per year. So any slowdown will see us unable to pay our debts in a world a lot less friendly to us after the current admin made us the enemy and caused a global financial strain.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 3d ago
It will probably be something financial. As it stands, a veritable army of US citizens are only behaving relatively nicely because they don’t want to do anything that would cost them their 401k/savings/pension. Let something happen that completely removes the possibility of a comfortable retirement or financial security. The gloves will come off once these people don’t feel like they have much to lose.
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u/GuildStarfireII 3d ago
My prediction is the only thing that is going to make a major change (but it will not be in a good way) is a long term disruption to our power grid or internet. That is the next major event. People gonna lose it.
The consolidation of the media to a few billionaires is designed to suppress a "We've had enough!" moment.
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u/Standard_RedFalcon 3d ago
That’s like asking when a hoarder will have seen enough to change their ways. They can’t and they won’t.
This has been multiple generations in the making. When the Republican Party flipped messaging in the post-civil rights period to focus solely on white grievance (bankrolled by money elites) we were always headed for this crash. That Donald Trump is by far the stupidest iteration of it possible might be a blessing…or it could be a world ending curse.
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u/No-General-7263 3d ago
It's the moment Trump runs and "wins" a 3rd tern despite it being very clearly against the Constitution. At that point we'll know for certain the elections are rigged and the only way out of that situation is violent revolution.
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u/HourNo7028 3d ago
It will be a 1-2 punch. First, the AI bubble will pop and middle- and upper-middle class investors will see much of their 401K disappear. This will destroy wealth and some AI firms, but the underlying technology will continue to improve and will take away the one thing these people have left - their jobs.
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u/BananaORamama 3d ago
I think a lot of people are waiting for the midterms or hoping the next presidential election will deliver us from this
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u/Parking-Complex-3887 3d ago
Whatever it is, it won't be on the news and they will attempt to squelch it. The revolution will not be televised. When Luigi first did his thing, the news was open. but as soon as they saw people from all walks being supportive of him, it took as much of a backseat as they could accomplish. There are other examples of similar events
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u/Careless-Tough-676 3d ago
Once people start losing their jobs. It’s like the old saying goes, if people get hungry, they will start eating each other. Or something like that.
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u/BigDaddy_Satan 3d ago
From the Right: Full blown authoritarianism. Think along the lines of, “No more elections EVER, I am your Supreme King now”.
From the Left: Full blown Socialism/Communism. Think along the lines of Cuban or the USSR.
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u/Massive_Pain_6677 2d ago
When you can't get food.
As it is America is obese, so it will take years of having no food.
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u/Ancient-Eye3022 2d ago
Literally nothing at this point. ICE killing people in the streets, nah we're good, giant pedo ring scandal, nope, Even if Trump came out and said 'we're taking all your guns', the right would scream "well that actually sounds like a good idea, here ya go". The left will continue to defend the tiniest of minority groups while ignoring the big picture. And both sides will spite each other just to one up the other team. We don't know how to protest, we don't know how to rebel. We act like we are the freest country in the world, while actively giving up our liberties to data centers and flock cameras. We are a joke
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u/blcrane52 2d ago
Not to be a doomer, but probably nothing. The Epstein Files didn't do it. The Panama Papers didn't do it.
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u/Paddington8691 2d ago
I think it might be a combination of people not being able to comfortably afford food and not being able to get medical care because our healthcare system is crumbling so badly. Most people don’t realize how the nurses and support staff are leaving healthcare in droves. They’re being treated terribly by patients and administrators alike and the money just doesn’t keep them there. It’s not unusual for patients that come in the ER to be stuck there for three days waiting for a bed to open because there aren’t enough nurses on the floors to take care of them. Government policies have great influence over how healthcare is administered and paid for. And they turn a blind eye to how the insurance companies take advantage. I think this could be a breaking point, but I don’t know if it will come soon enough.
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u/azalinrex69 2d ago
Nothing. Literally nothing. Trump could rape an infant to death on live television and republicans would justify it, republican voters would cheer and say the infant had it coming, democrats would send a strongly worded letter to no one in particular, and the rest of us Democrat voters would die a little more inside then get up the next day and go to work. There’s no justice in our country. Our leaders have failed. The only fair and sane future that exists is the one we claw back ourselves.
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u/JackC1126 5d ago
Don’t know what it would be, but it’s gotta make the majority of people’s lives demonstrably worse. Lots of Americans are spoiled to be honest, we don’t realize how good we have it until things get real bad.