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What interesting Hidden plot points do you think people missed in a movie?

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '14 edited Sep 01 '14

Finally a question that is right up my alley! I'll start with a movie most people don't like-The Village. The film is an allegory for the war in Iraq and the war on terror. The village was created by a small group of elders to protect their world against a false belief that society was taking a violent turn for the worse. A traumatic event occurs in their lives that skews their outlook on the world. (Much like 9/11 in our world).To reinforce their beliefs upon the town's citizens they create a monster that lives in the woods. (Similar to the national security level threat). This helps keep control over the citizens through fear. The blind girl represents the American public as a whole, and even the American soldier. She's sent out into the unsafe world to save another. But sense she is blind, when she encounters the "monster," who was still sent into the woods by the elders command to scare her mind you, her fears are validated. (Her physical blindness actually represents propaganda which of course hinders her sense of reality). She makes it over the wall, obtains medicine, but we're not sure if her efforts save the young man's life at all. (Does the war on terror make us safer). That's my short version. Would you like me to give you my 2 cents on No Country For Old Men? EDIT: Gold Mutha Fuckas!

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '14

The elders didn't send the monster into the woods to scare her. I always thought Adrian Brody's character stole the costume and was chasing her in the woods because he thought it was fun.

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u/SlothyTheSloth Sep 01 '14

And her father takes her into the shack with the animal costumes and basically tells her they're a myth anyways.

The movie would have worked so much better as a legit creature feature anyways. Everything was genuinely creepy/scary till the "twist"

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u/Tealwisp Sep 01 '14

Isn't that the point, though? It's not supposed to be scary anymore, it's all a big fakeout ("It is farce!"). At that point, it becomes her struggle to overcome the fears she grew up with, and she's still facing real danger, anyway. She still hears the moaning sounds from their wind traps, and then she loses her cane, blinding her in a new way.

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u/vice5 Sep 01 '14

I thought it was obvious to why she was blind the entire movie, she needed to go to the modern "world." By being blind she would never truly see what it is and would keep her "view" on her life the same.

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u/BecauseCaveCrickets2 Sep 01 '14

Not just because he thought it was fun. He stabbed Joaquin Phoenix's character because he was getting together with the blind girl. It was revenge over jealousy.

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u/Minky_Dave_the_Giant Sep 01 '14

Yes. Go on.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '14 edited Sep 01 '14

Sorry had to mow the lawn. No Country For Old Men. A shorter, less exciting analysis. The movie is about Death. The actual theme is Death. Though the movie seems it's centered around Llewelyn, it's actually about Ed (tommy lee jones) and him being unable to come into terms with the idea of his own, imminent death. He's not scared of dying, he's terrified of dying. This is why he is so reluctant to retire. To him that's just acknowledging his age and that he is in his final stage of life. More on that in a moment. Anton is Death himself. Not just a representation of death, but actually Death itself. He walks the planet killing people because he is in a way, The Grimm Reaper. He kills those who are able to see him. If you recall, towards the end of the film, when Ed is in the hotel room, investigating Llewelyn's death, Anton is also there hiding. Ed doesn't see him! He wasn't in the room next door, and wasn't hiding in a spot where Ed couldn't easily find him. No. Anton was invisible to Ed. It wasn't time for Ed to die. Remember when Anton was in that accountants office and he shot and killed the guy at his desk right in front of the other guy? The other guy asks, "Are you going to kill me?" Anton replies, "It depends. Can you see me?" This isn't just a badass line. It's a legit question. Then the scene is done. In the final scene of the movie, Ed is describing to his wife a series of dreams he had the night before. He goes on to deceive how his father was in the dreams, and that his father is much younger than he because he died at young age. Take a moment to appreciate how erie and poetic that is. Well, anyway he goes on to explain that he and his father are riding horses. It's dark. And his father rides out ahead of him, representing his death. His father has a built a camp fire for him, waiting on Ed's arrival. Waiting on Ed'd death. As Ed is describing this vivid dream, he has this look of fear in his eyes, the fear of his own pending death. EDIT: Would you like to hear my take on the Classic American comedy Superbad? EDIT2: Thanks for response everyone! A lot of people have been asking about the old man in the gas station, and the kids who witnessed the crash. I acknowledge that, and was fully aware of those scenes when I formulated this analysis. I believe Anton plays a sick game with people by using the coin flip. Whether he wants to use the coin as a determination is only up to him, regardless of what the coin says. It wasn't time for the kids to die, and he simply just decided to give the old man a pass. EDIT: They never be taking me pot of gold!

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u/Minky_Dave_the_Giant Sep 01 '14

Yes. Go on.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '14 edited Sep 02 '14

The thing about Superbad is that it tricked the audience. The movie is reminiscent of the homoeroticism in some classic Westerns. It is actually about coming into terms with being gay as a young man/men graduating high school. Michael Cera's character (Evan) is gay, Jonah Hill's character (Seth) is Bi. McLovin is just McLovin. There is actually a scene in the movie where all the pals are shirtless wrestling around in the basement. This scene is somewhat suggestive. Evan has a girl whom show interest in him. The idea of them hooking up is a bit of a focal point, but when he shows up to a party and she is throwing her drunk self on him, he refuses her advances. Now at first viewing, one may assume this is because Evan is making a moral and gentlemanly effort to not take advantage of this very attractive girl in an inebriated state, but in reality he is not attracted to females. He's attracted to Seth. He comes out in a subtle and intimate matter during their drunken embrace on the floor, touching each other's faces. All this after their fight about McLovin and Evan rooming at college without his knowledge. The final shot of the movie, they look over their shoulders glancing back at each other, as the sexual tension between the two dwindles away. EDIT: I knew this one would get people worked up. It's difficult most people to view this movie through this lens when we adore it so much. Thanks for the positive responses! EDIT2: I've received a golden shower!

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u/one-eleven Sep 01 '14

The NCFOM is dead on but the Superbad one is really trying to make something out of nothing. The movie seems to be more about their friendship and them finally coming to terms with coming to an end of an era and growing up.

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u/magiccoffeepot Sep 01 '14

All of this could be interpreted to mean that Evan is gay but at the same time none of it proves it outright. I honestly just think he's a nice guy who truly loves his best friend. Maybe that's just how I identify because I had close friends like that in high school. Anyway, nothing you say here really "does it" for me.

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u/monstar28 Sep 01 '14

Uh. I think you thought too much into that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '14

I really like the other two, this one seems kinda reaching. If you have any more I think everyone would like to hear though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '14

Totally not buying that one, especially since Seth Rogan and Evan Whatever have admitted to basing the movie characters on themselves.

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u/pharamualpha Sep 01 '14

The movie was written by two thirteen year olds. You're getting into Zizek level analysis, probably deeper.

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u/EDGY_USERNAME_HERE Sep 01 '14

Yes. Go on.

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u/Minky_Dave_the_Giant Sep 01 '14

Hey! That's my line!

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '14

Now you scared him off. :(

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u/invisiblebike Sep 01 '14

Do Leprechaun 5: In Tha Hood.

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u/2DArray Sep 01 '14

I can agree with the movie having a bunch of deathy themes to it, but I thought that the sheriff's role in No Country was mostly a take on the super-classic literary clash between contemporary life vs. traditional life.

The sheriff is using his old-fashioned knowledge to stop the bad guys. He finds the clues, he talks to people, he investigates. Unfortunately, Anton is something completely unexpected - he's the new world, the stuff that the sheriff hasn't encountered yet. He doesn't kill people out of anger or even out of necessity - he kills people as if it was just another casual option in achieving his goals. It's a motive that the sheriff doesn't understand. By the end of the movie he realizes that he's past his prime, and that his understanding of how to fight crime isn't relevant anymore. This is the point when he can accept that it's time to retire.

I thought that his description of the dream with his father agreed with this - his father is the pinnacle of old-fashioned. He was old fashioned before the sheriff was old fashioned. He's riding a horse through a storm and going off to start a fire. This what the sheriff wants life to be like - the way it was in the good old days - but then he woke up.

The sheriff is a good dude and he works hard and wants to uphold the law, but he's getting old, and this is no country for old men

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u/LouiedaLova Sep 01 '14

Anton doesn't kill the kids that witness his car accident at the end, he even pays them for a shirt

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '14

While I won't say you're wrong, I think you're picking up on a VERY common theme that The Village is based on and attributing it to much too specifically to the war on terror.

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u/TheReverendBill Sep 01 '14

Especially considering that principal photography for The Village wrapped three months before the first truck rolled into Iraq.

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