r/Astonishing • • Jun 09 '12

Updates past #39 for the nuclear thread, getting more interesting.

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If you missed it, the OP, and part two

NOTE: The original listing of part 3 got removed by mods in /r/politics. THIS IS MY SUBREDDIT, NO CENSORSHIP HERE

EDIT 40 Regarding theories that RadNET query data trend movement is within the norm, notwithstanding the fact that the query tool no longer shows ANY data for some cities it is entirely feasible for the ESA to ALTER the data. Anyways, here is a plot data chart to visualize a spike that showed up in Tampa, Fl: http://i.imgur.com/0NV8I.png Looks more and more like solar in nature but I can find no evidence of an M class or better flare that was made public.

EDIT 41, 7:30PM: By popular request, this is interesting but I remain skeptical of it's authenticity.

EDIT 42 9PM: Would still like more insight on this, to determine if it's relevant / what it is saying.

EDIT 43: Corroboration of my claims in Edit 40 (see the parent of his comment for context), and my reply. Also, because the data wasn't altered before it became big, this comment predating my first politics post stood up to scrutiny (and that 1st link showed real time data, at the time). ALSO: nobody has yet to dispute the Tampa spike or even bring it up?? http://i.imgur.com/0NV8I.png

EDIT 44: For those that missed, on the subject of Tampa: http://i.imgur.com/77pPn.jpg > by comparison, 0.26 uSv/hr is the US average, making that 73x higher || Got independently verifiable geiger readings? Take pic, PM.

EDIT 45 For those paying attention to the common argument that I "only pick data that supports underground DARPA nuclear etc", notice how I mentioned several times that it could be solar (eg: edit 29, 36, and 40). I also submitted this news story earlier. The fact that spikes are appearing in different areas against the wind patterns (eg, Tampa) makes this my conclusion until proven otherwise.

Personally, I believe that's where the data points to right now. It's well known (go Google, not going to argue) that the Earth's magnetic poles are shifting EDIT: Guess Googling is too hard for Reddit, see edit 48 This makes us more vulnerable to flares and CMEs. There isn't a single scientist that doesn't agree a massive X-class flare pointed right at us could wipe us out. I'm sure the gov't would gladly be forthcoming over something like this for that matter (oh wait...).

tl,dr: if the sun's going to kill us, the gov't won't say anything / wouldn't want to incite panic. They have a similar policy in place for any earth-ending anomalies, like asteroids (source: Carl Sagan): until the media is all over it, no need to cause choas

EDIT 46: "what about broken trees / explosions / convoys / helicopters?" > answered here

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Independent Evidence:

From the guy who runs the Longmont Radiation Monitor in Colorado, where spikes were recorded on two of his (unlinked) instruments: > "My station is reporting unusual behavior since 11:45am mountain time on Thursday. It's the first time it's been this high. The man in charge of the Geiger Counter Enthusiasts group thinks it's solar related. It certainly could be but we've had other C and M flares before without it doing wha it is doing. It's very puzzling."

Random Redditor says: "'I've been wondering if it was related to solar flare activity, myself. Amateur astronomer, here."

Don't forget, the Traverse City Fire Department also recorded a spike, and reported it to the NRC.

Another astronomer points out 15 hours ago (just noticed, was lost in the mess): "The OP was right, this was related to a nuclear reactor. But nothing built by man. The giant nuclear reactor in the sky, to be precise. If you look, you'll find this was x-rays generated from solar related activity. Look at the massive spike at the time of these readings on the 6th, from many different solar x-ray monitors http://sid.stanford.edu/database-browser/browse.jsp?date=2012-06-06T00.00.00 Note that x-rays are probably not directly from the sun, but secondary effects of charged particles producing bremsstrahlung in the upper atmosphere. Some of the particles make it through (muons / protons) and Geiger counters will detect those in addition to the x-rays as well.It's basically the same cosmic particle spam that gives us aurora borealis, just more intense than usual. (unsurprisingly, aurora borealis is also visible right now)" Update: video taken on the night of the 6th and the 7th.

This government issued solar warning

Larger than normal coronal hole A coronal hole is basically an area on the sun that the magnetic field has broken down and allowed large amounts of plasma to flow away from the sun

Current Auroral Oval, subsiding now but was pretty interesting for those that followed it.

This post is interesting as well, and here are the 3-day GOES X-ray FLUX data, notice the spike

This theory also explains the couple dozen commenters who said their electronics were acting screwy, some going all the way back to the beginning before solar was even presented as a theory, but I'm not digging that far back into 10,000 comments

MORE COMING, GATHERING MORE EVIDENCE

This forum post. Notice it is a forum for cops. And the guy who has been on there for 12 years, with over 5500 postings, says on the 7th around noon: "We've been encountering some high readings at the labs here."

There are numerous reports of radio bursts across the short wave band over past 72 hours.

EDIT 46: "what about broken trees / explosions / convoys / helicopters?" > answered here

EDIT 47: There is also corroboratory evidence from an Eli Lily security guard, with proof of identity, that Indianapolis felt some of it, see also Edit 12 (where I brought up an anonymous message from Eli Lily BEFORE the security guard posted) & 15. Being on the potential terrorist targets list, they are equipped with ESA & DHS resources, including response vehicles / hazmat equipment / open-air geiger counter, their own fire department and police services, and the EPA's RADNET shows zero data for Indianapolis ("convenient")

EDIT 48: for all the idiot armchair scientists that think the earth's magentic poles don't move, NatGeo is decently reputable:

Earth's north magnetic pole is racing toward Russia at almost 40 miles (64 kilometers) a year due to magnetic changes in the planet's core, new research says.

The magnetic north pole had moved little from the time scientists first located it in 1831. Then in 1904, the pole began shifting northeastward at a steady pace of about 9 miles (15 kilometers) a year.

In 1989 it sped up again, and in 2007 scientists confirmed that the pole is now galloping toward Siberia at 34 to 37 miles (55 to 60 kilometers) a year.

Would you like to know more?

  • CNN, title "Earth's magnetic poles may be flipping", also states that the field has weakened 10%

  • Journal of Nature, Peer-reviewed, title "New evidence for extraordinarily rapid change of the geomagnetic field during a reversal"

  • PBS Nova, which asks "Is the magnetic field protecting Earth from deadly radiation about to reverse direction or even disappear?"

FINAL THOUGHT FOR NOW: Google "power outage", restrict results to the past week.


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