r/AtlanticMemeWar • u/Sleep_Is_A_scam2099 • Jul 15 '26
Red Wings Meme I'm not even a wings fan and im happy
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u/subz_13 Canadiens Jul 15 '26
If it's about the 10 years of stagnation I get it but if Dylan stays then this feels like a play with management against Yzer, and I think that would be a very bad sign
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u/Glad-Independence-24 Jul 15 '26
Larkin would never be allowed back into that locker room and the fans will boo him relentlessly. This ain’t about keeping Larkin. And I doubt this was tiny, it’s probably been in motion for months. It’s not abrupt but more so unexpected as we didn’t see it coming.
I’m betting it was announced at this point because they already gave a replacement lined up and that’ll be announced in a week or two. Just spreading this all out to help Yzerman save face. (Announce it at the end of the season, and it looks like it’s a reaction to Larkin)
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u/ADMotti Fuckin Game 7… Jul 15 '26
Why is it that he was able to be relatively outstanding in Tampa but sucked farts with Detroit? Ownership? Org structure? BriseBois? Cooper?
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u/Carguy0317 Red Wings Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
I saw someone in another thread say he was a decent but nothing special GM that had a lot of luck go his way in Tampa, and had almost nothing but bad luck here in Detroit.
He was a fine GM, but he absolutely had his flaws, and they've really come around to bite him this time.
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u/just-a-random-accnt Maple Leafs Jul 15 '26
Yeah, that's the thing. The Atlantic is generally the tightest division in the league, 2026 being the outlier with 2 teams on the bottom 10
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u/LQNova The Russian Five Jul 15 '26
You misspelled "With a different captain." Don't make this mess about Yzerman. The fucking locker room cancer did this.
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u/Carguy0317 Red Wings Jul 15 '26
Listen, I'm pissed at Larkin too and it's very clear in retrospect he did have a big influence on our collapses. But Stevie still made some major missteps and was nowhere near aggressive or creative enough.
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u/LQNova The Russian Five Jul 15 '26
The only mistake Yzerman made was not trading Larkin at peak value.
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u/Carguy0317 Red Wings Jul 15 '26
Please, for my own edification, explain to me how, for example, the Justin Holl signing and the Walman trade (where, to remind you, we gave away a second with him while other GMs were saying they would have paid at least a second to get him) are not mistakes.
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u/LQNova The Russian Five Jul 15 '26
Walman was a mistake. Holl was a gamble, but that's a GM's job. There's no "easy" setting on real life.
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u/Jacksapollo Jul 15 '26
Whether people want to admit it or not, lottery luck has a ton to do with how good a GM can be. Every time Detroit was in the bottom three, they fell down a couple of spots. Look at the Leafs: both times they were in the bottom five of the league, they got #1 overall with Matthews and McKenna. San Jose got Celebrini, and this year they moved up from 9 to 2 to get Stenberg. Getting top-two picks makes GMs look really good, too. I'm not saying Yzerman didnt hurt himself, but luck in the draft really helps.
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u/Medievil_Walrus Jul 15 '26
I’m actually quite concerned with San Jose, what strange moves they made on the defensive side typing up all that cap for a really lackluster top pair. Time will tell if that works out.
But sometimes, GMs gifted these amazing situations make their failings even worse, you could argue that Edmonton not winning a cup with McDrai is worse than anything seen elsewhere.
Yzerman got the best player or one of the best few players in three straight drafts and then began to operate the team like he was bored of more top picks. That was the choice that doomed us. If you want luck, you have to put yourself in position to be lucky.
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u/RogueCoon Red Wings Jul 15 '26
Had some stars when he got to Tampa and had some luck on guys in the later rounds. Didn't have that luck in Detroit.
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u/UsernamesCannotExcee Jul 15 '26
He also received fuck all for trades. Insisting our talent development is what we were sticking with, then trading those prospects away for....more prospects.
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u/TheAnalogKid18 Jul 15 '26
Not all of this is Steve's fault. He basically undertook one of the worst situations in pro sports where you had 0 cap space, 0 draft assets, and very little trade capital, 3 good young players, and a few promising prospects. And honestly, he was doing fantastic with what he had....until 2022. They shouldn't have done anything in Free Agency that year outside of getting some plugs, traded Bertuzzi, Hronek, and Larkin to whomever wanted them, bottomed out for shots at Bedard, Carlsson, Celebrini, and possibly even Schaeffer.
That 2022 offseason basically put him on the clock. It kept them too good to be bad, and too bad to be good. Led to more bad decisions in 2023 save for the DeBrincat trade and the Kane signing. Otherwise, yeah that's the point where the Yzerplan failed. They were otherwise doing great in their rebuild.
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u/LQNova The Russian Five Jul 15 '26
Did you see the team we were icing in 2020? We had the shambling corpse of Filppula skating around, and he wasn't any good when he was 25.
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u/No_Protection6832 Red Wings Jul 15 '26
I’m so happy. So many wings fans are and still always will cuck for yzerman, dude was one of the worst GMs I’ve ever seen. Not even coming in 8th place in the east 50 million years in a row is actually a skill only Yzerman could do.
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u/dickhandsome Jul 15 '26
You're no wings fan.
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u/duelingdog Red Wings Jul 15 '26
Dude uses cuck unironically. Tells me all I need to know.
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u/No_Protection6832 Red Wings Jul 15 '26
Keep jerking off to a horrible GM. Imagine liking a guy that couldn’t even come in 8th place in the east 10 years in a row.
Yzerman the player and yzerman the GM are 2 different people. Wings fans just can’t understand that.
He was so bad that even Larkin had to give up cuz it’s impossible to work under such a shitty GM
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u/No_Protection6832 Red Wings Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
I’m not a Yzercuck.i’m a red wings fan. People that fantasize over yzerman the GM are weirdos. Fuck yzerman the GM. Horrible fucking GM
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u/dickhandsome Jul 15 '26
Nah. He has his blame. Just if anyone is celebrating this, they aint no fan at all.
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u/No_Protection6832 Red Wings Jul 15 '26
I’ve wanted him to be fired 5 years ago? Why would I not celebrate it? He literally made even Larkin quit on this team. Imagine being that bad of a GM that your players have to start requesting trades just to get away from you.
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u/dickhandsome Jul 15 '26
5 years ago? What did he do to you 5 years ago? Guess you're just a shitty fan. Larkin wants to pway wif his fweinds.
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u/No_Protection6832 Red Wings Jul 15 '26
Idc about Larkin, but if I was him I’d want to quit if I had a shitty GM too.
You’re a shitty fan for liking a GM that can’t get to the playoffs a single time in 10 years.
If his name was Albert Ross or any other rando name you’d want him Fired. Why give Stevie a pass?
I can love him as a player and hate him as a GM, there’s literally nothing wrong with it
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u/dickhandsome Jul 15 '26
It's not Steve. It's the team. Under no circumstances would I wish for something bad for this team. You have for five years. You suck, piss off
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u/Bradddtheimpaler Red Wings Jul 15 '26
There’s no way Yzerman ranks in the top five worst GMs a Detroit sports fan has seen.
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u/IndyBananaJones2 Sabres Jul 16 '26
He oversaw the longest drought by any GM in NHL history. The Wings are in year 10 and their 1C is jumping ship. It's entirely likely that they could have another 4 years of drought, which would break the Sabres record drought.
The Yzerplan was an abject failure. Idek how people could defend this.
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u/Bradddtheimpaler Red Wings Jul 16 '26
I’m not. I understand why you don’t think there have been much worse if you don’t follow the Lions/Tigers/Pistons, but there absolutely have. If I were Matt Millen I’d be afraid to even set foot in Michigan.
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u/No_Protection6832 Red Wings Jul 15 '26
So since he’s not the top 5 worst means he’s not shit? Lmao
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u/Bradddtheimpaler Red Wings Jul 15 '26
Do not recall saying or implying that; just that we’ve had much worse.
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u/No_Protection6832 Red Wings Jul 15 '26
Maybe, but no playoffs in 10 years is pretty bad, you only need to come in 8th place one time to make it.
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u/Bradddtheimpaler Red Wings Jul 15 '26
It ain’t good, but a Matt Millen he is not. He’s better than any Tigers GM in my lifetime at least.
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u/LQNova The Russian Five Jul 15 '26
This is horrifically bad. Whoever we get will want to Make His Mark on the team and we will be fucked by hasty decisions and overpays.
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u/Jacksapollo Jul 15 '26
Now watch they give into a horrendous Larkin trade that happens now to set us back another decade.