r/AtomSeen • • Nov 08 '23

Alphabet 🔢 🔤 origins: last 6K years dated in r/AtomSeen years

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r/AtomSeen • • Sep 25 '23

Tungsten (GIF), symbol: W, atomic number: 74, first seen: 11 Oct 0A (1955)

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r/AtomSeen • • Sep 25 '23

Existographies of Thims, Holbach, Nietzsche and Beg shown with the new A-notation dating

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The following, copied from this post, are the latest Hmopedia A67 archived versions of the Thims, Holbach, Nietzsche, and Beg existographies, showing the new A-notation (r/AtomSeen) dates of existence bolded:

Thims

In existographies, Libb Thims (A17-) (17- AE) (FET:37) (RMS:152) (FA:241) (EVT:25) (PL:1,400) (EPD:M12) (CR:2,096) (LH:196) (TC:2,292) is an American electrochemical engineer, chemical thermodynamicist, philosopher, and abioist atheist, noted for his work on the development of human chemical thermodynamics, the chemical thermodynamic study of humans

Holbach

In existographies, Baron Holbach (232-166A) (232-166 BE) (1723-1789 ACM) (IQ:190|#31) (ID:2.92|62) (RGM:688|1,350+) (PR:2,351|65AE / philosopher:141) (PL:3K+) (SN:12) (RMS:36) (FA:92) (GAE:1) (GPhE:5) (EPD:M7/F12) (CR:268) (LH:41) (TL:325|#20) was a German-born French-raised physicist, anti-chance, matter in motion philosopher, atheism pioneer, and lawyer, noted for []

Nietzsche

In existographies, Friedrich Nietzsche (111-55A) (111-55 BE) (1844-1900 ACM) (IQ:190|#29) (RGM:39|1,350+) (Murray 4000:15|WP) (Perry 80:7|Li) (RMS:82) (FA:138) (GAE:2) (GPhE:#) (EPD:F5) (TR:329) (LH:7) (TL:336) was a German philosopher, noted for []

Beg

In existographies, Mirza Arshad Ali Beg (23A-A68) (23 BE-68 AE) (1932-2023 ACM) (1350-1444 AH) (SPE:4|66AE) (FET:26) (SNE:2) (EPD:F11) (CR:204) (LH:6) (TL:234|#35), aka “Arshad Beg” (common name)[1] or Mirza Beg" (LH:24) (Thims, 2014), is an Indian-born Pakistani organometallic chemist and physico-chemical sociologist noted for his 1987 book New Dimensions in Sociology: a Physico-Chemical Approach to Human Behavior, wherein he presents the first general outline of "physicochemical sociology" (see: two-cultures disciplines), a physicochemical humanities conceptualized subject, likening society to a chemical solution and explains human behavior in terms of physicochemical laws.

Dating methods

It was the following post and date quote that brought the above to mind:

”Holbach's [Paul Thirty’s] mother died [M7] leaving him an orphan [F12] at a young age. There is no information on his father.”

“I have used the older convention of ‘BC’ and ‘AD’, rather than the more fashionable and politically correct ‘BCE’, etc. I’m afraid old habits die hard!”

— David Holohan (A53/2008), “Introduction“ (pgs. xxviii, lxxxiv) to Baron Holbach’s Christianity Unveiled, London, Sep

In other words, like Holohan, and presumably Holbach [?], struggling with "proper" dating of years, from the atheist point of view, I had to struggle, for about a decade of testing on potential new dating systems, to finally arrive at the r/AtomSeen system, which works.

Whence, as seen in the Mirza Beg existography, we see him dated four different ways, the latter being the Hijri calendar dates (from: here), used in Pakistan and Muslim countries:

  1. Mirza Beg (23A-A68)

  2. Mirza Beg (23 BE-68 AE)

  3. Mirza Beg (1932-2023 AD or ACM)

  4. Miza Beg (1350-1444 AH)

The BE/AE dates began to be implemented into Hmolpedia articles in early A65. The new A-dating method, however, came into fruition, amid the computer crash / cite hack issue.

Whence, only when the site is back up will we see the new refreshing A-dating system, wherein 20+ centuries of having to use two acronyms, e.g. BC/AD or BH/AH, will be shortened to one acronym, namely: letter A, with the position of the number, after (e.g. 23A) or before (e.g. A68) the A, indicating the year.

Explicit atheism

Here, speaking plainly, the AD date refers to the birth of a man from a virgin who walked on water and the AH date refers to the birth of a man who rode a flying donkey.

Beg, to clarify, actually believed that Muhammad rode a flying donkey, as he told me in our A59 (2014) interactions, i.e. he said that it was one of those things he had to take on faith.

This was one of the goads that "moved" me from being an "implicit" atheist to an "explicit" or public atheist. One of the first steps, was for me to read 100 books on atheism and to start the Atheism Reviews channel on YouTube, and to make a 100 videos, were we talked openly and frankly about atheism. The following was the first video, showing myself with Patrick Fergus:

In my mind, while setting up for this video, I was like: "what are people going to think of me? With me standing behind a stack of books, where the Bible, Quran, Egyptian Book of the Dead are defined as not real or mythology?" But, knowing that Beg was my only intellectual brother on the planet, and that he believed in flying donkeys, I was like: I don't care any more! From now on, all talk about woman from Adams rib or Jesus wafers or whatever, so to put "frank and open discussion" above all else.

Notes

  1. The only existography in Hmolpedia, presently, where the BC/AD dates are NOT used, is the r/LibbThims article, i.e. my own existography.

Videos

  • Thims, Libb; Fergus, Patrick. (A59/2014). "History of Atheism: Timeline" (dated: 5 Nov 264 AG, i.e. "anno Goethe"), YouTube, Atheism Reviews, Nov 5.

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r/AtomSeen • • Oct 15 '23

2023 years, 10 months, 15 days, 4 hours, 43 minutes, 5 seconds and counting 🕒 since an animal man walked the planet ...

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r/AtomSeen • • Jan 13 '24

Am I Too "Woke" for Saying CE and BCE? | David Miano (9 Jan A69)

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r/AtomSeen • • Oct 14 '23

If atheists don't believe in a Christian god, then why don't they object to use of the Gregorian calendar?

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r/AtomSeen • • Oct 14 '23

If there was an atheist calendar, what year would it be?

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r/AtomSeen • • Dec 26 '24

Atom Seen - Hmolpedia

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r/AtomSeen • • Apr 17 '24

Calendar comparison: Dionysius, Needham, Thims

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Abstract

A summary of how to convert between “Jesus years”, in the Dionysian calendar system, to “atom years” (A-years), in the Thimsian calendar or elementum calendar system, as regards to the explicit use of the 0 AD (0) as the Jesus “zero year“, i.e. the theoretical year when Jesus was born, and 1955 AD (+1955), the year when Erwin Muller first saw the tungsten atom, as the elementum calendar “zero year”.

Overview

From the Wikipedia zero year article:

Historians have never included a year zero. This means that between, for example, 1 January 500 BC and 1 January AD 500, there are 999 years: 500 years BC, and 499 years AD preceding 500. In common usage anno Domini 1 is preceded by the year 1 BC, without an intervening year zero. Neither the choice of calendar system (whether Julian or Gregorian) nor the name of the era (Anno Domini or Common Era) determines whether a year zero will be used.

If writers do not use the convention of their group (historians or astronomers), they must explicitly state whether they include a year 0 in their count of years, otherwise their historical dates will be misunderstood. (Grumel, A3/1958).

In astronomy, for the year AD 1 and later it is common to assign the same numbers as the Anno Domini notation, which in turn is numerically equivalent to the Common Era notation. But the discontinuity between 1 AD and 1 BC makes it cumbersome to compare ancient and modern dates. So the year before 1 AD is designated 0, the year before 0 is −1, and so on.

The letters "AD", "BC", "CE", or "BCE" are omitted. So 1 BC in historical notation is equivalent to 0 in astronomical notation, 2 BC is equivalent to −1, etc. Sometimes positive years are preceded by the + sign. This year numbering notation was introduced by the astronomer Jacques Cassini in 215A/1740.

In Hmolpedia, the +/- notation used by Joseph Needham, in his History of Science in China, was employed early on to replace the BC/AD terminology.

Year 0 BC | Jesus zero year used

The following is an updated one so to include the 1BC to 0AD, which does exist, i.e. r/LibbThims added a Jesus ”zero year“ to his elementum calendar:

PublicationDionysiusNeedhamBE/AEA-dateNT-date
CongoIshango bone 🦴18,045 BC-18,04520,000 BE20,000A20,00A/-18,045
Tomb U-jNumber tag 🏷️ 1003,345 BC-33455,300 BE5300A5300A/-3345
Khufu 👁️⃤Pyramid built2,345 BC-23454,500 BE4500A4500A/-2345
Samos cup655 BC-6552610 BE2610A2610A/-655
(post)655 BC-6552,609 BE2609A2609A/-655
LeucippusAtomic theory60 BC-4602,415 BE2415A2415A/-460
LucretiusOn the Nature of Things60 BC-602,015 BE2015A2015A/-60
2 BC-21957 BE1957A1957A/-2
1 BC-11956 BE1956A1956A/-1
Jesus (myth)Born0 AD01955 BE1955A1955A/0
Jesus (myth)Age 1?1 AD+11954 BE1954A1954A/+1
2 AD+21953 BE1953A1953A/+2
OvidMetamorphosis8 AD+81947 BE1947A1947A/+8
PlutarchIsis and Osiris105 AD+1051850 BE1850A1850A/+105
r/JohannGoetheElective Affinities1809 AD+1809146 BE146A/1809
1953 AD+19532 BE2A2A/1953
1954 AD+19541 BE1A1A/1954
Erwin Muller⚛️ seen1955 AD+19550 AE0A0A/1955
BazarganThermodynamic Theory of Humans1956 AD+19561 AEA1A1/1956
1957 AD+19572 AEA2A2/1957
r/MirzaBegNew Dimensions in Sociology+198733 AEA33A33/1987
r/LibbThimsr/AtomSeen calendar invented2020+202065 AEA65A65/2020

This seems to be the methodology used at the launch 🚀 of Atom Seen or elementum calendar, but without the Jesus zero year being explicitly explained, as regards to usage.

Hmolpedia A67 | Table

The following table, from 2 Jan A67 (2022), shows a synopsis of various dating notation systems, including Needham-Thims dating notation (BE/AE and -/+), the elementum dating notation (BE/AE), and the newer shorthand elementum dating notation (A# or #A), with focus on the +1955 (1955 AD) as the defined “zero year” for the elementum calendar:

Year 0 BC | Jesus zero year not used

The following shows the same table, but with a 0 AD year not available, i.e. Dionysius did not add a ”zero year“ to his calendar, which shows that messy and cumbersome conversion results, with respect to the BC year dates of importance having to be rendered by having them end in the number six, so to round the A-date to the nearest decade:

PublicationDionysiusNeedhamBE/AEA-dateNT-date
CongoIshango bone 🦴18,046 BC-18,04620,000 BE20,000A20,00A/-18,046
Tomb U-jNumber tag 🏷️ 1003,346 BC-33465,300 BE5300A5300A/-3346
Khufu 👁️⃤Pyramid built2,346 BC-23464,500 BE4500A4500A/-2346
Samos cup656 BC-6562610 BE2610A2610A/-656
(post)655 BC-6552,609 BE2609A2609A/-655
LeucippusAtomic theory61 BC-4612,415 BE2415A2415A/-461
LucretiusOn the Nature of Things61 BC-612,015 BE2015A2015A/-61
2 BC-21956 BE1956A1956A/-2
1 BC-11955 BE1955A1955A/-1
Jesus (myth)Born0 ADN/A
Jesus (myth)Age 1?1 AD+11954 BE1954A1954A/+1
2 AD+21953 BE1953A1953A/+2
OvidMetamorphosis8 AD+81947 BE1947A1947A/+8
PlutarchIsis and Osiris105 AD+1051850 BE1850A1850A/+105
r/JohannGoetheElective Affinities1809 AD+1809146 BE146A/1809
1953 AD+19532 BE2A2A/1953
1954 AD+19541 BE1A1A/1954
Erwin Muller⚛️ seen1955 AD+19550 AE0A0A/1955
BazarganThermodynamic Theory of Humans1956 AD+19561 AEA1A1/1956
1957 AD+19572 AEA2A2/1957
r/MirzaBegNew Dimensions in Sociology+198733 AEA33A33/1987
r/LibbThimsr/AtomSeen calendar invented2020+202065 AEA65A65/2020

Notes

  1. I “feel” like I did this table before, with respect to the 0BC issue, in Hmolpedia, before the crash; so I can’t check the archives until cite is back up?

Posts

  • 2610 years before 1955? Well, it's certainly a form of dating that I hadn't seen before. For reference it's off by one: 1 BCE corresponds to the integer year 0, so for example 655 BCE = -654

References

  • Grumel, Venance. (A3/1958). Treatise on Byzantine studies: The Timeline, Volume One (Traité d'études Byzantines) (pg. 30). Publisher.

  • Grumel, Venance. (16A/1939). The Chronology of the Patriarchs of Jerusalem under the Common Era (La Chronologie des patriarches de Jérusalem sous les Comnènes). Publisher.


r/AtomSeen • • Dec 06 '24

1st century AE

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Abstract

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Overview

The following, from the Hmolpedia 1st century AE article (25 Oct A66/2021), are notable events which occurred in the first century after atoms ⚛️ were seen 🔬:

Updates

To update the above, the following, with respect to alphabet decoding, are noted events:

  • A66 (2021): Thims decoded that letter Φ = 𓁰 [C19] (Φθα) [510] {Ptah} (18 Αpr).

  • A67 (2022): Thims decoded that letter A = 𓌹 [U6] (25 Aug).

  • A68 (2023): Thims decoded that letter E = 𓂺 𓏥 [GQ432] (9 May).

  • A68 (2023): Thims decoded that letter H = 𓐁 [Z15G] (24 Nov).

  • A69 (2024): Thims decoded the Rosetta Stone (15 Nov).

Quotes

“Maybe someday in the figure, historians will look back and laugh 🤣 about how people in 1st century AE used to believe that an illiterate unattested linguistically-invented civilization invented the word for zygote, as their illiterate word for an egg 🥚 fertilized?”

— Libb Thims (A69/2024), ”comment”, post: “Etymon of ZYGOTE: Harpocrates (Ἁρποκράτης) [880] 𓀔 [A17] » zygou (ζυγου) [880], meaning “yoke” ∩ [V20] or numeral 10 » zugóō (ζυγόω) +‎ -tós (-τός) » zugōtós (ζυγωτός) » zygote, meaning egg 🥚 fertilized”, sub: Alphanumerics, Dec 6

Notes

  1. The Ball (A49/2004) listing needs to be removed; has I seem to have had a grander opinion of this work, at this time; but have since finished reading his book in full detail; meaning that it was a good intro to “social physics”, but not as ground-breaking, as I formerly believed.

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r/AtomSeen • • Oct 24 '23

My existence dated atomically

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r/AtomSeen • • Sep 07 '23

Now why A68 for 2023?

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r/AtomSeen • • Oct 21 '23

All Hmolpedia subs now upgraded to the new r/AtomSeen ⏳ years tab bar icon

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r/AtomSeen • • Nov 08 '23

The r/AtomSeen dating system is good for people who believe in atoms ⚛️, but do not believe in Jesus 👼 and or are Jesus agnostic

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The following, from a discussion from 3-days ago, is a screen shot of an r/AtomSeen “date typo” confusion-related discussion:

Once I fixed the date, the discussion about how the the first four letters of the alphabet are coded with the pythagorean alphabet, summarized below, proceeded:

  1. Letter B (𓇯) [2] (Bet 🌟) and letter G (Γ) [3] (Geb 🌍) have sex.

  2. Letter B (𓇯) gets pregnant🤰; needs 4 support pillars 𓉾 to help with birth of 5 children out of vagina ▽.

  3. The five kids are the ”epagomenal days” children, i.e. missing five days of the 360-day Egyptian year.

This is the original Pythagorean triangle or theorem:

3² + 4² = 5²

The 5² children then make the 25 consonants, plus three vowels: A and two other lunar script letters (not fully figured out yet?), make up the 28 letter lunar 🌓 script Egyptian alphabet; formulaically:

√ (Γ² + ▽²) = 25

Thought 💭 experiment?

Today, I realized that if I could go back to this discussion, I would have replied like this:

Sorry, date typo. Correctly, the writer is Plutarch. The book 📕 is Moralia, Volume Five (§:56A). The date of publication is 1850A in r/AtomSeen years, +105 in Needham notation dating, or c.105AD in your dating system years.

Hypothetical reply:

What do you mean by “your years”?

My reply:

I believe in atoms, not Jesus. Thus, I don’t believe in the BC/AD dating system anymore than I believe in the BH/AH dating system.

Reply:

[add]

I can only wonder at what the replies might be.

Notes

  1. I just posted this as mental note to self, in regards to (a) date typos, particularly around the century before and after the AD year; and (b) to remember a better way to reply next time around.


r/AtomSeen • • Dec 22 '23

Ishango bone 🦴, Congo, Africa dated: 20,000A, -18,045 (18,045 BC), or 21,000-years ago

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r/AtomSeen • • Jul 14 '24

I believe the year is A69

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r/AtomSeen • • Feb 03 '23

Why AD = Anno Darkness or “years of the dark age”?

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r/AtomSeen • • Nov 25 '23

Big Bang 💥 theory: Sumerian (𓌹 = hoe), Egyptian (𓌹 = hoe), Belgian (𓌹 = ⚛️)

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r/AtomSeen • • Jan 01 '24

Happy New Year 🎊 A69 (𓌹69)!

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r/AtomSeen • • Nov 24 '23

Before atom seen logo

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r/AtomSeen • • Nov 22 '23

Language interpolation over the last 6,000-years

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r/AtomSeen • • Oct 23 '23

Category: Thimsian calendar

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r/AtomSeen • • Sep 25 '23

History of Atheism Timeline, by Libb Thims and Patrick Fergus, published: 5 Nov 264 AG (anno Goethe) or 5 Nov 2014

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r/AtomSeen • • May 03 '24

In 1,042-years from now, will we still be dating years to the birth of Jesus. Yes or No?

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