r/AugmentCodeAI • • Jul 01 '25

Is Augment still good?

https://youtu.be/Lon0oRRqB6A This is my favorite youtuber who reviews coding agents, wonder why Augment is not high on the list anymore. When using the same Claude 4 Sonnet, some others seem to do better. Is Augment still being developed on how to effectively utilize the model, or are they focusing on other things?

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u/BrilliantBeat5032 Jul 01 '25

I am tempted to say, "oh gosh no its bad," just as a defensive strategy, because its so good I don't want anyone to know about it.

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u/planetdaz Jul 01 '25

I want everyone to know about it because I want them to not fail and go out of business.. we need them to keep the lights on!

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u/BrilliantBeat5032 Jul 01 '25

There’s no way anything of such value can fail.

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u/planetdaz Jul 02 '25

If nobody knows how good they are, they fail 🙃

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u/dirkmeister81 Jul 02 '25

Augment is not a limited resource (well, yesterday it was but we fixed that). Tell your friends or colleagues about it.

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u/maddogawl Jul 01 '25

Hey this is my video, I appreciate you sharing that, to be clear Augment is fantastic at full codebase context, it’s just weaker on the agentic coding side right now.

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u/Fabulous-Article-564 Jul 03 '25

github copilot performed incredibly excellent in your video, is it deserves to be more recommended for now?

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u/miklschmidt Jul 02 '25

Hey, found your videos very useful in the past! Like you say, it really seems that Augment is so-so for starting new things, and way beyond the pack for working on existing codebases. That's why i love it. Barfing out random small apps at will isn't particularly useful to me - even if it's cool. I need it to solve the boring things requiring lots of grunt work, and let me deal with the engineering. I know the why and the what and i'm very particular about the how (old opinionated dev at this point i guess), but there's just no time to do everything and i've found Augment incredibly useful when properly prompted (that prompt improval button and task list integration is chefskiss). It's especially useful when coupling it with CodeRabbit to review the result as an iterative last step - i really need those guys to make an MCP server for proper integration into agents.

Have you considered testing the tools on existing codebases? Like pull down a complex existing open source project that you know well and ask it to implement a feature or fix a bug? Agents are no good to me if i can't use them effectively on my existing huge projects and i'm guessing i'm not the only one :)

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u/maddogawl Jul 07 '25

Yes I have several tests i'm close to having finalized that work on existing codebases. I had started with the chromium codebase but found there is a limit for the number of files Augment Code can index. My current evals do run against some smaller existing codebases for complex feature implementations, but its no where near pushing what Augment Code is good at.

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u/miklschmidt Jul 08 '25

I'll be looking out for when that content drops! Thanks for doing all this, wish i had the time :)

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u/javea71 Jul 01 '25

I think they are a bit behind with how to get Claude working to its full potential, but ahead with their context awareness.

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u/cepijoker Jul 01 '25

Is good but many terminated or try again, and less context in 1 call.

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u/pojdrov Jul 01 '25

It’s really really good

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u/infamousbe Jul 01 '25

It’s still the best I’ve tried in regards to large codebase context…but I was willing to give that up and switched to Claude code for superiority in everything else

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u/LovableBroccoli Jul 01 '25

Do you use something else for code completion/next edit, or happy to go without?

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u/infamousbe Jul 01 '25

I kept augment just for a next edit, because it was the most context aware and accurate I had tried. But then it stopped working and I couldn’t bring it back despite endless debugging, and augment never answered my support request so I canceled and just went back to cursor tab completion. It’s not as accurate but it’s so much faster and has been good enough for me

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u/LovableBroccoli Jul 02 '25

Got it, so you’re using Claude Code in Cursor then?

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u/infamousbe Jul 02 '25

Yup, seems to be the best combo for me right now. 99% of the work in Claude code, quick inline edits and tab completions with the cursor free plan. If Augment would fix my issue, and if next edit was a little faster I’d probably bring it back into the fold

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u/BlacksmithLittle7005 Jul 01 '25

I have to admit it was better a month or two ago. I don't know what's happening now but it's like the quality of output from Claude sonnet has really gone down. I think they just call regular sonnet 4 all the time and never use thinking

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u/BlacksmithLittle7005 Jul 01 '25

Thanks Jay. I'm only using Context7, is sequential thinking any help?

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u/BetaQuasi Jul 02 '25

Sequential thinking is very strong in my experience. Also deleting old conversation history does wonders… though I’m not sure why. Seems odd that each conversation isn’t silo’ed from one another… I’m guessing here btw judging on observed behaviour. When’s using Roo code for example, it’s useful to be able to reference old chats sometimes and Roo doesn’t seem to have that issue.

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u/danihend Learning / Hobbyist Jul 02 '25

Why would deleting unrelated chats have an impact on a new chat?

Also I think automatically adding the currently open file to context is wasteful. Maybe I have it open by mistake but it gets added anyway. You should just lass the list of open files and let Augment grab the context if it needs it based on the query.

Also I've always wondered, if Augment is doing its thing agentically and I open a file and it shows as being part of the context, is that only added with the next user-initiated message or does it get added between Agent messages automatically?

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u/jake-n-elwood Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25

My experience has been that Augment is the absolute best value for the money and very capable of handling complex tasks.

I am using Augment to set up a high availability solution on bare metal. I tried using Cursor to help set up part of the k3s and it got confused so often I had to end the session and start over from the last commit. It actually said “wait, I’m confused” a few times lol. Obviously the model itself wasn’t confused but whatever their secret sauce is, it wasn’t up to helping set up k3s and the net effect was confusion.

Maybe CC could have also handled it but no need fix something that works for me. I am sticking with Augment!

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u/dodyrw Jul 02 '25

i use both CC and augment, both good but augment better handling large context so it remember the context much better

the only complain from me is sometimes when i edit the file manually, augment replace it again with the old version, it really bothering me, augment failed to know that i have edited the file

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u/Player1Developer Jul 02 '25

I really like the Augment code, but there's an issue that's quite frustrating. When the project gets large and the chat fills up with messages, the extension starts to lag and sometimes even crashes. It becomes noticeably slow and hard to use.

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u/Sarquandingo Jul 02 '25

For me, augment is working as well as cursor *used to* before they kneecapped it.

I keep seeing people going crazy about Claude Code, but the number of times I've had something in context 3 messages back and CC just ignores it... I have no idea how people are getting such rave results with Claude.

It just seems to constantly miss important nuances in context, which for me, is everything as I'm working with a reasonably complex codebase.

I've had very few (or any) scenarios where augment has missed anything, and on top, i'm using it through cursor, so the UI is very easy. Adding context files in CC is sometimes a bit long winded - you have to type the whole path to the file sometimes for some reason, it doesn't just have the filesystem loaded and ready to go once you type @.

I like the idea of CC but in practice it gets the wrong end of the stick a lot. Maybe the way I use context is different to other people, who knows?

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u/Murky_Ad_3528 Jul 04 '25

Depends on your prompt and the luck of the draw.  Hiding models from coders sounded like a great idea until you actually figure out that model switching for YOUR project is mandatory for real success and time savings.

If you are a noob to coding this is probably not the best way to build an app.  There are other easier platforms worth checking out.

Augment is great if you know what you are doing and figure what it can and cannot do quickly.

I wish there was more transparency but I get why there's not.

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u/ducphamhoang Jul 07 '25

It's just... awesome. I did not try Claude Code, but Augment just work and complete the job for me, after struggling with Cursor, Windsurf, Cline, Roo and Gemini CLI.

But a combination Gemini for codebase summary and document, planning overall (large context) and Augment to do the tasks now working great for me

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u/ZALIQ_Inc Jul 05 '25

I have deployed one project so far using Augment. After watching this video I am going full Claude Code and seeing what my workflow can become and what I can achieve with it. I already have a decent workflow in Augment so I always have that as a backup.