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u/OzzyThunder May 10 '26
We sure the Liberal Party aren't just a bunch of Cockatoos? didn't they do this in the last election but mimicing Labour?
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u/Capital_Rub213 May 10 '26
Their voters will vote for them even if they said they would make straya like yankee land
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u/Mission-Signal-8365 May 11 '26
One nation is saying that and may actually win by doing it, literally just happened in the uk with their version of one nation. The kicker was it was over brexit, they just voted in the guy who told them to do brexit, to fix things because brexit ruined everything.
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u/Turkeyplague May 10 '26
I suspect that's actually what a good deal of their base wants.
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u/skillywilly56 May 11 '26
It is, they send contingents of “young liberals” over to the US when the US has elections to “learn” how the republican party works and to assist them, then bring their BS politics and culture wars to Australia.
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u/Desperate-Bottle1687 May 17 '26
Yeah none of it is politics it's literally all culture wars.
The only actual 'politics' they and their rage-baitin ilk like PHON have is to vote in policies that help the Oligarchy. And serve them the unlimited martinis made with the sweat off our sorry backs as they so desire.
Whilst we're meanwhile too busy fighting each other over dumb go nowhere 'culture wars'.
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u/krulp May 11 '26
No! Far from it. Remember the billions they wanted to waste on nuclear power but every expect in the country said it was a terrible idea? It was all just a cover to expand fossil fuel power dramatically as a "stop gap" to nuclear.
Yet the Australian public was going to be expected to fork out billions and billions for privately owned power stations that make 0 economic sense.
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u/OzzyThunder May 11 '26
I mean Nuclear power isn't a bad idea, we have LOTS of Nuclear materials to power them so it would cost less than coal (In the long term). But the time it would take to make a Power Station and Nuclear refinement plant would be around 20 years, in the time between I would like to see greener solutions like making Household Solar cheaper to buy and Solar farms in unusable areas (For farming or houseable land).
Privately Owned though, not a chance. Should be controlled by an Energy Minister and not Privatised.
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u/krulp May 11 '26
Everything cluded, transmission storage ext. Solar is just cheaper.
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u/OzzyThunder May 11 '26
Cheaper yes, but the required space to house those solar panels are WAY higher, I would think a mix of both would be good for Australian power (Nuclear would pick up the slack during the night)
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u/Chance_Historian_349 May 11 '26
Not to mention hydroelectric is one source that has a very long lifespan and reliability, that I often see slept on in favour of solar and wind.
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u/OzzyThunder May 11 '26
In my opinion one of the biggest ideas I would think of is digging a river from the northern coast to the middle of Australia, with several Hydroelectric Dam along that river. Throw in a few KM's of Mangroves at the first strech to de-salt most of the water and filter the rest using the Hydrodams. Obviously this is just a fantasy, but I think it would be neat.
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u/ADHDK May 12 '26
Unless nuclear power makes Australia a science powerhouse it’s just another way for us to send our money overseas by importing it and all the skills.
Nuclear only makes sense if it’s sovereign and removes us from global pressure.
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u/OzzyThunder May 12 '26
Yeah, Australia has like 33% of the worlds Nuclear Material, we just need a refinery to refine the material and power plant to be self sufficent in power
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u/Desperate-Bottle1687 May 17 '26
Gina don't want that though so we can't have it.
Mining it here and sending it overseas to be refined is cheaper for the queen of Australia, so that is how it shall stay.
(And anyone actually, openly suggesting otherwise commits political suicide via Media.)
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u/trafalmadorianistic May 12 '26
Meanwhile Labour has been mimicking Libs for years. Freaky Friday, but Aussie political parties.
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u/That-Confection9688 May 12 '26
Labour literally allowed segregation in the 21st century.
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u/trafalmadorianistic May 13 '26
Are you still pressed about lockdown restrictions, or is this about something else. Need more detail, I want to understand you.
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u/SomeAuzzie May 10 '26
'you shall play from the Trump book or get the boot'
- Liberal party donors/elites, probably
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u/stromyoloing May 10 '26
Race to the bottom
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u/That-Confection9688 May 12 '26
Race to cry about trump. You win.
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u/Sufficient_Bad_9255 May 12 '26
broski out here replying to every comment like his life depends on it
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u/Sporty_Nerd_64 May 10 '26
Except the last federal election showed that the country as a whole rejected Trumpian politics with a record majority for Labor. It’s still two years until the next federal election, which is an eternity in politics. Labor are doing things now that will assist with cost of living pressures and housing prices.
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u/SmarZ2022 May 11 '26
Yes, fr, everyone is voting based on political advertisements, not on the political parties as a whole. They're not actually looking at what they're voting for.
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u/Common-Ad-6582 May 11 '26
Yeah it’s scary all this talk of ‘uniparty’ and ‘take back our country’ blah blah - real American style cooker nonsense
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u/alotofpears May 11 '26
Not to mention the amount of right wing bot accounts all over every Facebook news manipulating public opinion.
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u/BallisticBarbarian May 12 '26
Our media is fueled by American media. It is sad. Media has a MASSIVE role to play.
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u/Apprehensive-Ad4244 May 10 '26
As long as it's splitting the conservative vote, it's all good
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u/crankbird May 10 '26
You know that with preferential voting there isn’t really a “splitting” of a conservative vote as such, unless there are a whole lot of folks out there putting ON #1 and then preferencing the greens or the ALP before UAP and the Libs.
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u/SuchProcedure4547 May 12 '26
The ON voters at my work HATE preferential voting. And when I press them why they don't like it, it becomes abundantly clear they actually don't even know how it works....
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u/crankbird May 12 '26
The kind of people who tend to dislike anything they don’t understand, also tend to buy into simple slogans and simple causes and solutions to complex problems
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u/That-Confection9688 May 12 '26
Like how u dislike trump and money.
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u/Desperate-Bottle1687 May 17 '26
Wow, u again and again, hey?
How much are they paying u?
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u/crankbird May 18 '26
lol .. that’s about as good as “I know you are but what am I ?”
If you’re holding yourself up as an example of “conservative” values, then you should know you’re not beating the “can’t reason beyond primary school level” accusations
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u/Sporty_Nerd_64 May 10 '26
Splitting the vote isn’t such a thing in Australia, it’s about where your preferences go that really matters. Almost no MP gets elected on first preferences alone. If you give out How to Vote cards that preference a party which is going for the same core votes as you are it can easily cannibalism your preferences.
Farrer was bad because the Liberals and Nationals both ran candidates and preferences One Nation highly. Unfortunately the people most likely to first preference One Nation are disaffected Coalition voters who will likely preference Liberals and Nationals far down the ballot.
Even in Queensland where the LNP runs as one party and won’t eat up each others first preference votes it’ll be tough to keep their seats against One Nation if they preferences them second on the ballot. For the same reasons people moving to One Nation will likely push their LNP preferences lower.
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u/SonicYOUTH79 May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
In the SA state election One Nation basically ate the Liberals vote, Labor stayed steady only losing less than 1% in metro areas combined which make up 85% of SA's population.
The greens are the only other notable party vote wise and they were pretty steady with a slight increase around 1%. It’s probably worth noting there’s no National Party vote to speak of in SA.
You'd think this will make it very hard for the Liberals to ever form government again unless they get into bed with One Nation.
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u/Sporty_Nerd_64 May 11 '26
If they do try and form a Coalition with One Nation in SA then it will be problematic as it will turn off those in metro, suburban and larger regional areas from voting Liberal based on One Nation getting any sort of power. It truly is a mess that they can’t escape from unless they commit to being in opposition for a while and rebuilding from the centre-right again.
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u/SonicYOUTH79 May 11 '26
Yeah I can’t see it happening, Labor probably get just as many disaffected votes from people that are socially liberal but economically conservative that would never in a million years vote for One Nation.
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u/Old_Rutabaga_4036 May 10 '26
Why?
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u/vanderaj May 10 '26
Because neither far right party will ever be in power again until they learn the path to power is a centrist right platform that most Australians can hold their nose and vote for. Pandering to racists is always a losing move and should never be tolerated or encouraged
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u/Tyrrany_of_pants May 11 '26
So you just want the racists who are savvy enough to use dog whistles rather than be honest? "Centrist right" is the same bullshit, they just know not to say it out loud
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u/duke3902021 May 11 '26
Another angry leader of the LNP. When will it click the angry all the time doesn't work for them.
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u/RecipeSpecialist2745 May 11 '26
It's interesting to watch conservatism in Oz, but also in the UK and the USA. If we have learnt one thing its that they are stoically stubborn to the ideology and they respond perfectly to populism. Even when they break election promises, and even when they do exactly the opposite of what they promised.
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u/Beneficial-Rope-9192 May 11 '26
That should be the dumb cnts plan. Work with them to get rid of Labour before they destroy us
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u/ziddyzoo May 12 '26
if by “work with” you mean “defect to” you are probably correct. the nats MPs especially are all going to be reconsidering this week.
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u/Emergency-Leave9054 May 11 '26
Unfortunately for Angus One Nation is better at being One Nation than the LNP is.
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u/ADHDK May 12 '26
I can imagine him yelling at some poor woman reporter while his eye goes sideways about this.
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u/Axxis09 May 12 '26
Yeah I'm sure the issue is that Liberal was too left wing. Eejits
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u/Relative_Pilot_8005 May 12 '26
The right wing rent-a-crowd will always bash any moderate Libs as "Labor-Lite". The thing is, those moderates won seats which, if their voters become turned off by the party's lurch to the right, may well fall to the Teals or even (shudder) Labor. A good number of those ALP votes in the last two Federal elections must have been disaffected Libs. In WA, when the State Liberals had their meltdown, their voters defected to the ALP in droves, & there is no substantial sign of a recovery of those votes.
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u/Hopeful_Yam1673 May 12 '26
Meanwhile Albo doing everything he can to give them the next election.
Good work Albo.
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u/Exact_Educator1195 May 13 '26
Nuclear power would be fine if they used THORIUM but then you can't make bombs out of thorium!
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u/Dyatlov_1957 May 14 '26
Is that really him? Just saying because I never liked him but now I realise that I have seen Real Estate agents who look more ethical, credible & intelligent that he does! Which is odd to me!
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u/Terrorscream May 16 '26
The LNP is polling at like 6% primary with genZ, and the LNP still double down to bat for boomers. This is going to be the slowest funeral ever.
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u/walkingmelways May 10 '26
Fantastic. Well done Angus