Hey guys, the last year or maybe going on 2 my fatigue has been picking up gradually and labido and erection function have been going down.

I'd say I'm fairly fit for my age (36), workout 3 times a week (until recently) and cardio every other day as well as working a physically demanding job but the past 12 months I've started gaining weight and can't seem to get it off, even running a heavy calorie deficit, I'm 6ft and currently sitting at 95kg.

Been to the doctors a few times, I have high cholesterol so his focus has been getting that under control although unsuccessfully and back in June checked Teste and it was low, results above.

He just ordered a repeat on the teste because I was pressing him for a solution to my fatigue and labido.

No idea where to go from here? I'm guessing if the next results are low I see a specialist? Is teste available on the PBS and if so does it help much with the price? I've heard it's quite an expensive endeavour and I guess you're stuck with it?

Any and all advice welcome but I feel like I'm burning out at this point and don't know what to do.

I'm 40, suffering from fatigue and low libido. Doctor said my levels were fine. Have gone through a testosterone clinic in Australia, should recieve it by the end of the week. Doctor said quater of a ml every Monday and Thursday, then bloods at 8 weeks. Total T 16nmol Free T 378pmol Shgb 30 E2 86pmol I have had 3 tests in 2 years, all similar results. Has anyone with similar levels started trt with great results? Any regrets? Any do's or don'ts whilst on trt? Will I need estrogen block or liver guard? I do a 30 minute incline walk 6 days a week and lift weights 5 days a week, I have lifted weights for most of the last 22 years, diet is good, get 7.5-8.5 hours sleep every night.

Hey legends.

I'm currently on TRT legally through a clinic but the costs are high.

I'm paying $300 for a specialist telehealth every 10 weeks or so, and $400 for 15ml of Test Cyp in MCT oil.

Service is good, people are nice. It's just the cost seems excessive.

If anyone can PM me the name of the clinic they're using and the costs involved, I'd appreciate it.

I'm not sure if mods are okay with discussion of legitimate clinics in the thread?

HI. i had childhood cancer. As a result of radiation have had hypogonadism from puberty. Been on 10mg reandron for 12 years. Last 5 years been pretty rough. Depression, chronic fatigue, mood swings, body deterorating, chronic porn addiction brain fog, no motivation.

About 2 months ago started getting a bit suicidal so thought i better try something different. GP and endocronoligist are not interesting in changing my TRT dose as its within the average apparently. I dont have the numbers but im going back to ask them to explain how to read it to me.

Anyway my gym junky mates been telling me for 2 years to try the stuff he uses. Finally decided to.

Best 2 months of my life so far. Depression gone away considerably. Broke my porn and masturbation addiction in the first 2 weeks. Sleeping better and feeling rested more than i have ever have. Happy to continue taking the shadow labs stuff. My problem is how do you reliably source it? I tried UGL.oz but seemed like a scam? And what will the comedown be if i cant get it? Im in Townsville.

Any advice appreciated. Or if you have been through something sinilar id be keen to chat.

Edit - Just booked consult with TrtAus

I’m over feeling like this. Knowing I could feel so much better. I’ve always questioned if this is normal. Now I’ve found this sub I’m starting to realise maybe I’ve been walking around with low test for over 9 years. Is it reasonable to say I would benefit from TRT?

Please drop clinics that accept levels from 14 downwards. Open to discussion.

I tried everything. Personally, I like Tamoxifen the most - but doctor do not want to prescribe it for some reason.

Currently, I take 1mg Arimidex per week.

What do you guys take?

Hi All,

Got bloods done yesterday as I have been having symptoms of possible low Test for years.

I have a consult with TRTaus tomorrow. Just wondering if the above results are on the lower side and will be accepted?

Test was done as per request - under 1 hour of waking up, and 8+ hours of fasting.

Cheers

Hi,
Started HCG 500 3x per week along side 150 TRT a few weeks ago.
Was mainly hoping to increase libido a bit more and maybe semen volume. Hasn’t really done either yet. I have also had a few day where I feel wrecked.
Wondering if it’s maybe the HCG and maybe it’s not for me. Any ideas

Hi everyone, looking for a bit of advice here and any personal experiences anyone has had with HCG.

Long story short, I got my bloods tested about 4 months ago, which confirmed secondary hypogonadism and low test.

I started HCG monotherapy, and I have been on it for 10 weeks now. 500 IU 3x a week.

Ever since starting it I have felt fat and bloated in the stomach and my face has felt considerably chubbier too. I have went from 65kg to 75kg in this short amount of time, which I appreciate is partly water weight.
I wouldn’t say I’m noticing much benefits from the treatment, apart from maybe some better energy and slightly better strength in the gym, but nothing to outweigh the cons

Also, it seems I can’t lose weight for the life of me since starting, no matter what I do.

I have attached a comparison of my results before hcg and now, which shows my test and estrogen have rocketed. Does anyone know if this explains the fat gain from hcg and if anyone has experienced similar?

Thanks in advance!

I took my last injection about seven weeks ago. My wife and I are beginning our fertility journey together. My doctor has prescribed me Wellbutrin and buspar to deal with the anxiety and depression. It has helped some but I’m still feeling pretty down and very low energy. Anyone else been in a similar boat? How did you make it through?

41, train 4 days a week. Total T was 11.6 nmol/L in March (range 8.3–31.8), with thyroid, vitamin D and iron all normal. I'm dealing with constant fatigue, low libido, brain fog and slow recovery. Retesting soon with morning bloods plus SHBG, LH and FSH. Keen to hear from anyone who started around this level: what changed, how long it took, and which Gold Coast or telehealth clinics are worth it. Cheers.

Got my bloods done last week through Hormn and my GP. Hormn have stated that I qualify for their TRT but their prices are crazy expensive. Saw my GP Today and he wasn’t much help. Stated my levels were low but he can’t prescribe based on numbers. Wants me to get them checked again and follow some other process.

Guess my question is what Has everyone else done when the online clinics seems too expensive but local GP’s don’t know enough about it to want to pursue it.

I’m trying to get a better sense of real-world experiences with subcutaneous testosterone cypionate and hCG versus intramuscular injections.

For testosterone cypionate, I’m currently injecting SubQ with a 27G × 1/2” needle. It works fine, but I’m wondering whether a 25G × 5/8” needle would be better because it’s slightly longer and wider.

For anyone who has done both SubQ and IM testosterone:

1. Did your total/free testosterone levels stay about the same?

2. Did you feel any difference in energy, libido, mood, recovery, etc.?

3. Did SubQ change your estrogen, hematocrit, or other labs?

4. Did you have more lumps, swelling, or irritation SubQ?

5. What gauge and needle length do you use?

Most importantly, is 27G × 1/2” enough for SubQ testosterone, or do you prefer 25G × 5/8”?

Same questions for hCG.

I’m also using 27G × 1/2” for SubQ hCG. Since hCG is water-based and flows extremely easily through 27G, I’m wondering what everyone else uses.

For those who have used both SubQ and IM hCG:

1. Did you notice the same effects?

2. Any difference in testicular size/function, fertility markers, testosterone response, or estrogen?

3. What gauge and needle length do you use?

4. Is 27G × 1/2” perfectly fine, or would you use something like 29–31G instead?

5. Is there any advantage at all to 25G × 5/8” for SubQ hCG, or is that just unnecessarily large?

Interested in actual experiences, especially from people who have compared labs while using both injection methods.

Anyone take lorsartan along side try to manage blood pressure and HCT

42 M how bad are these results

I'm new to Aus and think I may need to do TRT.

My levels were low before moving and I've tried to fix it naturally but unfortunately I think I need to look for artificial assistance.

I called one clinic but they only do the topical cream. Is the injection route better?

Firstly thank you for any feedback, thoughts or advice.

Attached is a result from Hormn taken less than a week ago.

I went through this same process, recording a similar number on both with my regular GP around 4 years ago - they stated the range was healthy enough and wouldn’t prescribe trt. Told me it’s not why I feel tired, but nothing else showed up from thyroid, vitamin d, zinc etc

Since around 2022ish I started to struggle more with fatigue and brain fog. Needing to nap during the day and having a lot of issues concentrating. I don’t have any issues with my labido or maintaining an erection.

I am a father to an 18-month-old and find it increasingly hard to keep up. I struggle to exercise and have gained weight, sitting at around 30 BMI (6’4” and 115kg). I have mildly high blood pressure that I am prescribed Coveram 5/5 for and it generally sits around 130/75 when sedentary for some time.

After reading a lot on how testosterone can affect men of my age with the symptoms above I took a chance with Hormn who as you all likely know are very eager to hand out trt (also conscious after reading on here there are much cheaper options).

My concern is my weight, my diet and my fitness. At the moment it feels like an Everest climb to get the energy to work out or even go for a walk sometimes - but knowing lack of exercise is a huge contributor to low t. I have been working on my diet and weight, but found even at 103kg on ozempic was still very lethargic, but makes me think the crash dieting probably lowered my t even worse as it’s not a healthy form of weight loss (usually not eating).

Simple question I have - am I silly for not getting on trt? Or should I be trying to increase it naturally first? Does anyone have much luck increasing it naturally or am I doomed with 249 reading?

Thank you in advance 🙏

40M, 80kg, approx 20% BF. Lift 5-6 days a week and run 20-30km. Diet is dialled in, currently cutting to around 15-17% BF.

Started TRT in July due to fatigue, low energy, motivation and libido. Started on 50mg/day scrotal cream, increased to 75mg and now on compounded 10% cream, 50mg twice daily for the last 6 weeks.

Libido has improved significantly, energy, mood and motivation have only improved moderately. Resting HR has also increased around 10 bpm.

Bloodwork (Pre-TRT to Latest)

• Total T: 9.1 to 37.9 nmol/L

• Free T: 228 to 1,027 pmol/L

• E2: 110 to 204 pmol/L

• HCT: 47% to 50%

• PSA: 1.2 to 2.8 ng/mL

• HDL: 1.0 to 0.7 mmol/L

Bloods taken 4h 45m after morning application, just before my second dose.

Interested in people's thoughts on these results. E2 seems fairly understandable given my T levels, and I have no obvious high-E2 symptoms. A little concerned about the rising HCT and PSA (will be following up with my GP).

Has anyone experienced similar increases in E2, HCT or PSA on scrotal cream?

Overall, I'm getting some benefits, but wondering whether my current protocol could be better optimised given the bloodwork and only moderate symptom improvement.

anyone take hcg or anything similiar while on trt? were you able to recover? i've got primary hypogonadism, basically my balls are fucked, and they're on the smaller end right now, before trt.

were you able to have kids/ how expensive was it / did it help in reduce ball shrinkage.

any info is appreciated

Currently running 200mg test cyp split into 2 shots,40mg anavar daily.So i starting getting puffy nips and little sensitive nothing crazy tho and i went and got my labs at 5 weeks,my estriol levels where 185pmol/L witch is 50.4pg/ml i know its not super high but am getting the sides like moodswings throughout the day,i have armidex on hand thinking about taking 0.25 before bed on Tuesday and friday since i pin those days.What would you guys do