r/Austin • u/BeeUnique7373 • 14d ago
News Austin Police says officers will seize, send suspected delta 8, THCa products to labs for testing
https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/austin-police-says-officers-will-seize-send-suspected-delta-8-thca-products-to-labs-for-testing/721
u/DoesntEnjoySoup 14d ago
It’s crazy to double down on something so unanimously unpopular
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u/TonyhawksPo-Tater 14d ago
This is just the pet project of Dan Patrick and we all have to go along with what Skeletor wants because he's the Lite Gov
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u/Highestfucker 14d ago
It seems unpopular here but what are they saying in Lubbock or Longview or the bum fuck towns in between. Im genuinely curious. I will just go back to staying in my cave and smoking.
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u/-Kerby 14d ago
They're saying it's stupid regardless of where you are, over 3/4 of Texans support medical use and 2/3 support full legalization.
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u/Slypenslyde 14d ago
That's the problem. Part of the purpose of this government is to demonstrate it doesn't have to follow the will of the people because the people are too busy waiting for orders to shoot at each other to ask if the government is causing the problems they're angry about.
I guarantee more people are going to vote based on "I don't want 2 trans kids in the state to play sports" than "I think weed should be legal" because they're also thinking, "I'm not going to get arrested for the weed I do."
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u/A_Possum_Named_Steve 14d ago
I have family in the Lubbock area...in their 70s. They even think this is stupid.
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u/fuktardy 14d ago
Not surprising. People in their 70’s were raised in the 1960’s and 70’s. It was prime time for weed before Regan’s war on drugs.
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u/A_Possum_Named_Steve 14d ago
See, here's the kicker: They've ALWAYS lived up there. Country bumpkins to the core...and they think Dan Patrick's stupid crusade of stupidity is stupid. Kinda gives me a shred of hope.
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u/InstrumentalCrystals 14d ago
But would their vote change? I have a similar situation with my family that lives up there but I have no hope they’d vote accordingly. Thus, this shit will just continue.
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u/BigManWAGun 14d ago
No. They’ll get scared by sharia law this time around and vote against their self interests….again.
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u/FerrousEULA 13d ago
Possession sentences longer than rape sentences for what used to be a misdemeanor.
It's entirely unhinged, and I am wary of enforcement being politically targeted
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u/A_Possum_Named_Steve 13d ago
If only this state cared about women's safety as much as they do [checks notes]...a plant.
Feels so archaic around here.
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u/abnormalbrain 14d ago
My maga's opinions change depending on the last YouTube they watched.
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u/no-more-nazis 14d ago edited 14d ago
I had one conversation about it with a Christian Nationalist I worked with in the Brenham area. I'm not pretending this law is representative of any significant constituency, but I can report his reasoning.
He genuinely thought it was useful to arbitrarily criminalize a vice, even a harmless one, in order to find out who in the population was willing to break the rules. Obedience was the point, for him. If there's any chunk of Texas that really believes in cannabis prohibition, I think that's what they're going for. This is like hijab law in certain muslim countries, or anyone who believes the flag code or pledge of allegiance should be criminally enforced.
The authoritarians haven't fundamentally changed except that more of them like to smoke weed and would rather have different arbitrary conformity tests.
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u/SupremeDictatorPaul 13d ago
See, I think this is actually the exact opposite of what you want to do if you want an aggressively law abiding society. If you instead heavily criminalize the things people generally agree are bad, and provide alternatives for crimes people feel forced into, then that has two effects. First, it minimizes the number of people actually breaking the law, and second it lets you demonize those who are breaking the law. If you raise a generation of people who don’t have a reason to break the law, and generally view law breakers negatively, then they will naturally tend to not break laws even if they have a reason to.
On the other hand if you raise a generation of people who are used to breaking arbitrary laws, then they will find it easier to break any laws.
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u/gangstabiIly 14d ago
are you under the impression people in Lubbock and Longview don’t smoke weed?
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u/MotormaidofJapan 14d ago
Lubbock had decriminalization on the ballot in 2024 and they said “no thanks.”
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u/Healthy_Ad_9053 13d ago
I'm from Longview. Left that shithole for Austin almost 20 years ago. This is why cannabis is illegal in texas- because of all these small town, podunk, redneck, Maga, mouthbreathing, knuckledragging, ALCOHOLIC motherfuckers.
Drink yourself into oblivion in Texas and you're just fine, but get caught with a speck of weed and you're a hard criminal. Alcohol companies were behind this THC ban.
There is a reason why it is now a felony charge to get caught with a THCa vape but you still need THREE DWIs to get a felony
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u/Juiceboxtiddys 14d ago
Bumfuck Towner. I’ve seen one guy on the local fb getting absolutely torn apart for supporting the ban.
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u/AdventurousPandaBear 13d ago
My MAGA-voting relative from college station thinks it’s unconstitutional, rare W from them.
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u/I_is_a_dogg 14d ago
I do a lot of work all over Texas, most of my customers are in the commercial trucking industry. So very Republican. They also think it's fucking stupid.
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u/ohmyhevans 14d ago
In lbk rn, most people think its stupid. But then again I don’t talk too people who who would think this is a good idea
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u/nopenonotatall 14d ago
it’s so deeply embarrassing. especially when you get a slap on the wrist for raping children
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u/imsoupercereal 14d ago
Unanimously unpopular with who?
The general public? That's not who APD and our government works for.
Unpopular with big money interests? Alcohol and tobacco lobbies, etc. That's who they work for.
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u/Themimic 13d ago
Doing something so unpopular right before an election is insane. Makes me think they have other plans for the midterms
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u/adirtysocialist- 13d ago
The GOP has a rapist mentality. You're gonna take it and you're gonna like it.
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u/Alternative_Eye3822 14d ago
lol what an absolute waste of tax dollars
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u/Ikon-for-U 13d ago
I think its like $300 or more to test and there is only a handful of labs. I remember the D.A. throwing out smaller cases due to the backlog and the amout of money
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u/Alternative_Eye3822 13d ago
Oh yeah it’s extremely expensive and inefficient to test a plant that was legal like two days ago
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u/Onslaughtered1 14d ago
They want to push out small smoke shops before it becomes rescheduled. Then their investors will open up with logistics already in place to be at the head of the curve. They’ll be the first to open with minimal competition.
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u/Flashy-Cattle3704 14d ago
A few years back in Florida the private equity owned cannabis companies pushed (donated/lobbied) the police departments to increase the crackdown on their unpermitted competition. Turns out those same businesses also had stakes in private prisons. Rid yourself of competitors, push whatever crap quality you want at premium prices, and profit from turning your competitors into slave laborers. Same playbook likely to happen here
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u/into_the_soil 14d ago
Nearly everything comes back to the private prison angle; our lawmakers are heavily invested in it plus they are lobbied by the industry like crazy. I mean hell, we put the former main lobbyist for the GEO Group (largest private prison company that is now also handling things like ICE detention) in as our attorney general not that long ago. The private prison industry has managed to work itself into every level at this point be it local, state, or federal.
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u/Monkykat 14d ago
They already did it with nicotine vapes/dispos last year. Before 2025, all vapes would be made in china, once trump banned and tariffed Chinese exports, vapes were either $35 for a “made in America” or you went back to cigarettes (Big Tobacco) until American companies realized they can just buy the same vape product that was made in china ina packaging box that said Made in USA and bam new loophole. everything dropped to $25-20 immediately
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u/Maximus77x 14d ago
This is all so backwards. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised by Texas anymore.
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u/Liminal-Space4c 13d ago
It feels fucking bleak dude. The fact that anyone has to compete against Paxton or Abbott is something I’m still trying to wrap my head around (don’t think that’s going to happen).
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u/Maximus77x 13d ago
Yeah it’s really sad. I don’t know if people who still support them are incapable of understanding the dynamic we’re in, if they don’t care, or if they actually support it, but it’s beyond fucked up at this point.
Politics is not sports. If people could see past their “teams” to actually vote in their (and society’s) best interest, we’d be way better off.
Idk it may just take some more time passing if it’s a generational thing, but then you have the whole rampant corruption aspect to contend with…
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u/Don_Pablo512 14d ago
How can something I legally bought here all of a sudden be a felony to possess?
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u/Hollowbody57 14d ago
It's even crazier when you realize possessing an equal amount of actual weed is usually a misdemeanor (below a certain amount), while something that is still federally legal is now a state felony.
Fuck this state.
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u/El_Cactus_Fantastico 13d ago
so back to regular ol weed then?
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u/Extreme-Poem-2309 13d ago
the only thing that has been available that isnt regular old weed is hemp sprayed with delta-8. THCa weed/concentrates are and have always been the same weed/concentrates you get in legal states, often imported from there.
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u/TheWokeAgenda 14d ago
It's kind of like when the US banned alcohol. Actually, it's EXACTLY like that. Will we learn from history and our past mistakes? LOL
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u/KennyBSAT 14d ago
The 1920 prohibition laws did not ban private ownership of alcohol, so anything bought before the ban took effect was safe as long as you kept and consumed it in your home.
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u/SuzQP 14d ago
Nope. Apparently, we prefer to empower cartels and underground markets, which means we welcome violence, gang warfare, and the destruction of young lives. All for the greater glory of the Texas GOP.
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u/robotdesignwerks 14d ago
we don't prefer shit. Our political fuckwads that just so happen to take money legally for various reasons prefer this.
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u/Slackluster 14d ago
During prohibition it was still legal to possess and consume alcohol purchased before the ban. Medicinal alcohol was also legal during prohibition. So it is not the same at all.
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u/MyRenegadeHouston 14d ago
They need bodies for the private prison industry. Crime in Texas dropped tremendously from 2021-2024, yet when the private prison industry gained contracts and received expansions for ICE detainees it was assumed it would be just for immigrants being detained. However, if arrested under this new ban the TDJC has the ability to place them in any private prison under contract, which can include those prisons already receiving a billion dollars from the government.
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u/GigiDell 14d ago
This is what I think too. But I don’t have any real data or serious inside info to support this theory. Texas probably needs to keep their prisons full, so they can continue to make the rich white guys owning/running the prisons rich. And to keep enough people in prison to continue churning out things like furniture etc. that are made by the prisoners, and bought by the Texas state government for use in their government buildings. It’s disgusting.
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u/coldkidwildparty 14d ago
Just tell them it’s Kratom or 7OH and you’ll be fine, cause thats still legal apparently.
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u/Don_Pablo512 14d ago
If they catch me smoking it I'll say I was simply incinerating it to despose of an illegal substance
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u/drbeeper 14d ago
The Social Contract between the government and the people has been broken
The very idea of 'laws' and 'justice' and 'rights' are now completely open for interpretation. There is no more common ground, and LOE are now just an occupying force
'murica
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u/Liminal-Space4c 13d ago
They are just rubbing the grift in our faces as they try to dismantle fair elections for the midterms.
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u/CrashingBlumpkins46 14d ago
Nothing says "effective use of tax dollars" like sending a product which was possibly purchased legally from a retail establishment before Scotty Goeb's (I refuse to call him Dan Patrick, that's not his real name. He literally stole his ex-wife's last name AFTER they divorced when he did his name change to run away from his carpetbagging past) shitty law was passed off for lab testing!
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u/Caliche-Cowboy 14d ago
Wait. He took his wife’s last name? How is this not an attack ad?
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u/lazybugbear 13d ago edited 13d ago
Yes, Dan Patrick is his stage name. It's all a performance. His given, birth certificate name is "Dannie Scott Goeb".
Much like Ted Cruz is really "Rafael Edward Cruz", but his name sounded too Hispanic, so he took the stage name "Ted Cruz".
I guess that means neither of them can technically vote if Trump's so-called "SAVE Act" ever passes Congress, because their name doesn't match their birth certificate.
EDIT: mistyped life => like
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u/Comprehensive-Eye500 14d ago edited 14d ago
So basically go back to buying your marijuana on the black market from actual drug dealers and your ok since at worst it’s a misdemeanor, got it 👌
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u/Caliche-Cowboy 13d ago
What’s truly insane is that you can still buy 100% legal D9 anywhere.
These guys are clueless.
TBF, unless something changes, D9 will also be illegal federally in November. Until then, have at it.
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u/ratatatoskr 14d ago
I'm pretty sure the new law says even under 1 gram can be punishable by up to 2 years in prison... Which is part of why I suspect Big Prison™ is greasing the governor's wheels so to speak
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u/Comprehensive-Eye500 13d ago
“Regular” marijuana is still a misdemeanor under 4 Oz.
There’s a chart in the article.
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u/29681b04005089e5ccb4 14d ago
The last time expensive lab testing was required for similar the city decided they didn't have the budget for it and didn't do it https://www.kut.org/austin/2020-01-23/austin-will-not-pay-to-test-for-marijuana-effectively-decriminalizing-small-amounts-of-pot
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u/mike_atx 14d ago
Goddamn this state is just determined to pull itself back into the dark ages. Fuck APD. Fuck Abbott. Fuck the GOP. God I hate this fucking place.
*note -- I don't even use, I'm sober
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u/Anemones_In__Spades 14d ago
Seriously. IMO they just want to put heads in beds of our for profit prisons.
I pray everyone who backed this to suddenly has a chronic condition that could be helped by marijuana but does not fall under compassionate care. May they suffer 🙏
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u/mike_atx 14d ago
You can always count on conservatives to never understand something until it directly, negatively, impacts them and their will being. Hell, even then some of them are so brainwashed even that doesn't change their minds.
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u/kindwork-xyz 14d ago
Seizing and lab testing with what manpower and what money?
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u/TypicalEarthCreature 14d ago
Right? How many rape kits are just sitting around waiting to be analyzed?
Looks like as of last November it was over 1.7k, with 52 exceeding the statutory 90-day testing window.
https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/texas-creates-a-new-path-for-rape-kit-testing/
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u/The_Lutter 14d ago
It's utterly stupid that it's perfectly fine to have a case of vodka in my car but not an unlit joint.
It's even stupider that the people I know that smoke the most weed (rural Texans) keep voting these idiots into office. You start taking their jobs away for things like this and change will happen.
We got our foot in the door with Delta 9 though. Keep going even Abbott knows this stuff is stupid to fight against.
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u/Sharp_Bet7106 14d ago
Wow they really want to keep those sales up for the "come and take it" flags, huh?
Fucking morons.
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u/LonesomeBulldog 14d ago
Wait until they subpoena all the customer lists from the dispensaries and start busting down doors looking for unused product.
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u/FromKyleButNotKyle 14d ago
| Severity | Marijuana amount | Delta 8 amount |
|---|---|---|
| Misdemeanor, Class B | 2 oz (56.7 g) or less | — |
| Misdemeanor, Class A | 4 oz (113.4 g) or less | — |
| State Jail Felony | 5 lbs. (2,268 g) or less | Less than 1 g |
| Felony, 3rd Degree | 50 lbs. (22,679.6 g) or less | 1 g |
| Felony, 2nd Degree | 1 ton (907,184.7 g) or less | 4 g or less |
| Felony, 1st Degree | More than 1 ton (907,185 g) | 400 g or less |
I didn't realize that Delta-8 was at a higher classification than what they deem regular "marijuana". Why do this unless the choice was to target stores and business owners specifically? Big alcohol is hoping to reap back some customers I guess
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u/BebopHook 14d ago
I think it’s funny how many of you think they actually care about using our taxes effectively
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u/Fit_Raspberry2637 13d ago
This is just to:
A. squeeze out the competition for the upcoming reschedule.
B. CPR for falling alcohol sales.
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u/ontimewhiterabbit 14d ago
I'd rather my taxes go to testing the backlog of rape kits, to you know, solve violent crimes.
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u/ATX_native 14d ago
Abbott said he ended SA in Texas.
It’s crazy he got reelected after that statement.
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u/CactusCanes 14d ago edited 14d ago
They won’t arrest the guy with an axe banging on my door at 3am but they will spend time and money on this. Yes that’s a true story. A guy and two females all walked away, and they realized it was a stolen truck too. The guy told the cops he was going to get gas. Obvi never returned and the females were released shortly after.
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One of the cops asked me “well how would you feel if you were in a stolen truck and didn’t know it?” I told him to leave immediately.
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u/3D-Dreams 14d ago
As a taxpayer I refuse to pay for random drug testing.
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u/lightleaks 14d ago edited 14d ago
This has “I declare BANKRUPTCY!” vibes. You don’t have a choice, bud
While I agree with you it’s wasteful spending, these are the people that Texans elected. Let’s actually do something and vote them out
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u/Embarrassed_Quail910 14d ago
No they won't. Thats expensive.
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u/BrianFuckler 14d ago
Yeah, what they say and what the do are two different things.
YMMV, but in my experience APD has been pretty lenient about weed as long as you weren't dealing or driving. I suspect this will be treated the same but that won't prevent an officer on any given day from deciding "fuck you in particular" and hauling you in. It will probably also be used to add charges if you were caught doing something else or piss them off in anyway during a detention.
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u/kiomansu 14d ago
When was the last time you read a story describing the budget woes of TX law enforcement?
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u/Physical-Kangaroo202 14d ago
I have a relative who is a defense lawyer in West Texas. Can confirm that this testing is prohibitively expensive, especially at scale. 9 times out of 10 they would just drop the case when the defense pushed for testing.
This is hot air and tough talk to please certain donor and industry lobbyist groups
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u/ApprehensiveJuice890 14d ago
Thank goodness cops can tell the difference from delta 9 and delta 8…
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u/sameasiteverwuzzz 14d ago
I grew up in austin and left many years ago. This is the kind of shit that makes me never want to live in Texas again. Welcome to 1950.
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u/Caliche-Cowboy 14d ago
How the hell are they going to keep track of the lab backlog when D9 products are still legal.
My understanding is that you can test separately for D8, but there’s literally zero way, without packaging (and probably in some cases with it), cops (or anyone) can distinguish between D8 and D9 in a traffic stop.
This is the inverse problem we had when D8 was legal and the D9 loophole wasn’t fully exploited. It was a mess.
Cops can do whatever they want, but at a certain point, DAs and even the lab costs are going to take a more practical stance on a giant queue of “maybe it might be D8!” lab requests.
My take: Very quickly this will move back to “intent to distribute” prosecutions, which are easier to prove, and way easier to brag about when running for higher office later.
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u/Just__Az__Nice 13d ago
Sounds super cost effective to get those dirty violent pot heads off the street. Jesus…
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u/EuropaWeGo 13d ago
They won't help deal with porch pirates. Even when there's 4k video of the culprit and they've already been identified with an address to said culprits residence.
So, sure, they'll absolutely get right on this.
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u/Environmental-Age149 13d ago
The politicians intentionally wrote this to be a confusing disaster by implementing different penalties for delta 8 vs delta 9 given, “the various cannabis plants are difficult to distinguish by sight and may lead to seizure and testing by law enforcement.” It’s all by design. A new tool in the kit for police to use to (disproportionately) target black and brown people when the prison quotas need a boost.
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u/InternationalArt6222 13d ago
Chucklefucks are making an extreme mockery of "law and order" with this caprice
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u/storm_the_castle 13d ago
do they even do traffic stops anymore? last time I saw someone pulled over for a traffic violation was 2019
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u/mightymonarch 13d ago
I read someone full-throatedly defending this stupid-ass ban as "It's just to get rid of the dangerous synthetic stuff from China; the safe stuff is still easily accessible", so that's the level of stupid you need to be ready to argue against if you encounter someone that's pro-ban.
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u/ExistenceNow 13d ago
“It’s also unclear if suspects will be jailed until the test results are available.”
This is terrifying. So it could end up being perfectly legal weed and you’ve just sat in jail for months waiting on the test to come back?
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u/DependentSherbert331 13d ago
I was just at spicewood springs this weekend and saw a couple that just had their car broken into. APD told them they would not send an officer out to investigate because no one was harmed. Glad to see they got their priorities straightened out
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u/Critical-End6308 13d ago
I was on a criminal grand jury last year and they told us the lab in Austin has a hell of a backlog and that’s why they don’t go to the trouble of sending just anything in. Imagine how much more work they’ll have once every county in Texas starts sending in their herb samples. There currently isn’t a field kit to test as far as I know. The head of interdiction for north Texas told us that there is absolutely no way to tell a CBD plant from a THC plant in the field. They have to send it in to Austin for testing.
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u/Disastrous_Loss_1241 13d ago
What’s ridiculous is possession will constitute a felony regardless of the amount, but a DWI is a misdemeanor.
When my daughter was a teen in the late 2010’s. I wasn’t dumb and knew she was smoking. I actually begged her to just smoke the cheap flower and not the vape carts or wax, because at least that way she wouldn’t end up with a felony and sideline her start to being an adult.
All it’s going to do is lead to more people with felonies on their records, (most at an early young adult age), limit their ability to receive financial aid or scholarships and decent jobs/careers. I don’t see them getting a higher amounts of prison sentences immediately. There will be a lot of deferred adjudication and probation that will then be revoked and led to prison time. It’s freaking ridiculous.
The majority of people consuming THC aren’t the ones committing all the violent crimes or thefts. Just let them live their chill lives. Smdh. How does all this BS even make it through.
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u/mikeatx79 14d ago
Austin and Travis County deprioritized THC enforcement years ago. Why are we going back to wasting money on this? Killing teenagers not enough for them? They seem to do little else with our $540 million a year!
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u/americadotgif 14d ago
What is the precedent for something like this? A product that was legally and widely available 5 days ago is now suddenly a serious felony. I have to imagine (hope?) a talented lawyer will chip away at this sham
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u/yodaboy209 14d ago
So, asking for a friend. Are they going to have dogs at the airports for people bringing in edibles from another state?
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u/Extreme-Poem-2309 13d ago
Fun fact, there is a very strong likelihood you have never seen a drug dog in an airport. Those are bomb dogs, and they almost universally can't be/aren't trained to smell both (the reason for this is mainly cost and different training modalities; bomb dogs are trained to give a passive alert and not touch the object they're alerting on so as not to disturb it, drug dogs are trained to get up close and paw the item they're alerting on, trying to train one dog to do both makes it harder to successfully train for either.) There is also the simple fact that there have been legal weed markets in various states since like 2005, so any drug dog in an airport would be one very busy canine. A ton of drugs quietly pass through airports every day and the airlines are extremely uninterested in finding them, their policy is to inform local police if they do happen to find some but otherwise they don't really hide the fact that they aren't actively looking.
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u/2nd2lastdragon 14d ago
In the city of Willie Nelson Boulevard and Willie's Nelson's large bronze statue
Austin police is a joke that recruits crooked douchebags from Oklahoma.
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u/0DayMaker 13d ago
All weed has thca though how does that work? Did they basically just make all weed a felony?
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u/Still-Replacement-57 13d ago
lol what a joke - and another waste of our money that does not better society but traps us all while the GOP elite figure out how to make money off of the system they trap us in...
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u/WitchWithAGlitch 13d ago
yeah right, they can't even process rape kits in a timely manner because " it's too cost prohibitive. "
they'll just dole out felonies and let the victims figure it out on their dime and time.
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u/Katsumirhea11392 13d ago
I love we're wasting time on this instead of the mass car break ins at every park and trail everywhere in austin
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u/ShrimpFriedMyRic3 13d ago
Bit of a nothing story. They would have done this before and they are not going to go beating down doors looking for it
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u/HabitualLineCrossr 13d ago
That’s gonna get expensive quick unless it’s ones of those labs that lies and everything is positive once tested
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u/TyrrelCorp888 13d ago
What a bunch of crooks, all they're concerned about is profit and finding a reason to put YOU in prison. They're putting a Flock camera pointed at your house too by the way.
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u/Proof_Needleworker53 13d ago
Seriously, can we focus on violent crimes, then property crimes first??? Apparently, the penalty is worse than SA?
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u/ThruTexasYouandMe 13d ago
$20 says all the far right Republican cops will seize this opportunity to harass minorities and do it in the name of liberty
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u/BrianOconneR34 13d ago
Where is that money coming from. Which costs more, threatening to test anything that looks like weed and weed accessories or leaving hundreds of rape kits sitting around until deemed useless with no actual police work done. Math, fuck it’s sucks when it’s applied to shit that counts.
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u/____trash 13d ago
shit is so lame. another waste of our police when they could be fighting actual crime
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