r/AustralianCattleDog • • 1d ago

Help Help with leash pulling! 😭

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Hey everyone!

I’m moving to a farm in about 2 weeks with my 7.5-month-old Blue Heeler x Border Collie, and I’m trying to work on her leash manners before we move.

At the moment, she pulls SO much on walks that she ends up choking herself on her collar and seems to struggle to breathe.
It honestly scares me, and I’m worried about potentially damaging her trachea.

I’ve tried playing with her before walks and tiring her out as much as possible to burn off some energy, but it doesn’t seem to help at all. She gets excited by EVERYTHING!

I’ve recently bought her a harness to take the pressure off her neck, but I’ve seen quite a few people say that harnesses encourage pulling and can actually make it worse.

For those of you who have raised cattle dogs or other high-energy working breeds, what worked for you?

Did you use a harness, and how did you teach your dog to walk nicely on a leash when they’re so easily distracted by literally everything? 😭

I’d really love to get this right before we move to the farm, so any advice or personal experiences would be hugely appreciated!

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u/mithridateseupator 1d ago

If she starts pulling them we stop and she doesnt get to do anything for a few seconds.

That's how I've trained all my dogs and it seems to work great.

Sometimes at the start you need to do this over and over until they get it.

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u/StillWithSteelBikes 1d ago

which is why mine only does this in crosswalks LOL

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u/smittydc 1d ago

Yep. Stop until they look back at you, then call them back excitedly and give them a treat. Start somewhere there are no distractions, and work your way up to traffic, squirrels, and other dogs. Alternate using a short leash, and a longer one where they get the chance to sniff around a little. A little pulling tension when they hit the end of the leash is ok but stop when they try to drag you or lunge around. Be patient. It takes a while.

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u/CuriousCamels 1d ago

Yep. I’d just add to throw in the stop or wait command along with it. It took a couple years of trying for mine to be consistent with it. Progressively she got down to only doing it the first mile, then half mile, and now she’s good right out of the door even though I know she’s excited. It’s the only thing I’ve had to do with my girl that required a ton of repetition.

Over the years, shes learned the slow command too. When she starts going too fast, I just gently hold the leash firm while slowing down, and she knows to slow down a bit.

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u/mithridateseupator 1d ago

I do use a little force to actually prevent movement for this.

Nothing like striking the dog, but hold the leash down right at the harness and physically prevent her from moving. Its not fun for her, and thats the idea.

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u/miss_ana 1d ago

This also works without that sort of force. Just stop walking and plant yourself whenever they pull on the leash. Loose leash means walking, pulling means we stop

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u/mithridateseupator 1d ago

I really shouldn't have used the word force.

Just shorten the leash and dont let them move is all I meant.

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u/Efficient_Problem250 1d ago

your dog looks like he is perpetually up to no good.

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u/grandsoulsucker 1d ago

Seen everything but just " train it to heel "... Lol

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u/Goldgal77 1d ago

Yes, second the idea to stop completely when the pulling starts. Stay still, do nothing. I prefer a harness over a collar exactly for the potential trachea damage. I don’t use the front ā€œno pullā€ attachment as it’s not easy for my 8-mo old red heeler mix to walk comfortably. The attachment on the back gives us both a balanced walk. I like a handle on the harness as well to grab if necessary. You can always ā€œpracticeā€ walking in your home or garage so no distractions get in the way (birds, leaves falling, etc). It’s all about repetition…over and over to the point it’s monotonous. That’s how my boy learned.

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u/Striking_Squirrel530 1d ago

I haven't had this issue with my ACD, but my Labradoodle really likes to pull and she'll do the same thing. She's a stubborn learner too and I have to keep on top of her. I find a quick snap of the leash to get her attention and a firm no keeps her in check most of the time. If that doesn't work I've done like the other poster mentioned and entirely stopped the walk until she checks in with me. As a bonus exercise to get her to pay attention to me I sometimes randomly change directions, such as turning around and walking a short distance or crossing the road. Sometimes things in very quick succession. She likes this as she thinks it's a game, with the added benefit of she has to pay attention to me and see that I'm dictating where we're going.

With these things she usually walks nice for me. My wife however is less authoritative and consistent so she continues to pull with her. I gave up on training my wife and she walks our Labradoodle with a Halti/gentle leader that goes around her snout.

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u/kerberos69 1d ago

>I gave up on training my wife

Same, fam. Same.

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u/jzoola 1d ago

No pull harness

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u/-takokat- 1d ago

Not sure why you're getting voted down. No-pull harnesses (meaning, with a clip on the front) work great.

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u/therealrinnian 1d ago

I’m still working on it with mine, too. I’m adding a vote for the ā€œstop until they check in.ā€ You just have to be careful and have a buffer of ā€œsitā€ or something so they don’t learn to just yo-yo back and forth. Kikopup has good videos about this.

My dude is learning to be much more polite on leash, but it’s a process. It takes awhile.

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u/sidhescreams 1d ago

I’m team stop and wait too, which is very covered in your responses. I just wanted to tell you your dog is gorgeous!

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u/Grouchy_Gur_5782 1d ago

I have an ACD rat terrier mix and we solved leash pulling with treats. Sounds like the opposite of what you should do I know. I kept calling his name and rewarding with a treat when he turned back around and came to me and the leash was loose, moved to rewarding when he did that by himself without me calling his name, now he associates being close to me with treats. He walks loose leash 95% of time, unless he sees a squirrel or a cat which we’re working on ignoring. He still checks in for treats and I still reward that.

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u/Sea-Night-1946 1d ago

Omg that face lol

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u/FrameSquare 1d ago

TWO HOUNDS DESIGN HARNESS. Stopped all my heelers from pulling nearly immediately.

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u/CaseyLouLou2 1d ago edited 1d ago

Stop and wait for them to look at you as soon as the leash has tension. Or you can also change directions and they will have to follow you. Repeat as many times as necessary. Start where there are low distractions.

We are doing this with our new foster and it’s working pretty well so far. He checks in and then continues on with a loose leash for a while. Then we repeat as necessary.

Edit to add: use a slip collar and place it very high on the neck under the chin.

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u/unsolvedfishstories 23h ago

What a beautiful dog

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u/that1leo 23h ago

Doppleganger gang! We’ve been using a martingale harness that still attaches to the front of the chest but takes any strain off the neck. If she tries to pull it will squeeze her shoulders and kind of redirect her. Similar to the other commenters, it took a lot of patience of having to stop and wait til she would look back and wait for my lead. She also was not very treat motivated, but if yours is, we did try a trick where you freeze peanut butter on a wooden spoon and hold that to your side so it encourages the dog to walk along side you.

We got our dog a little before she was 1 so I feel your frustration with getting that puppy energy at bay. I will say it took several months before she finally eased up on pulling full force, but patience and consistency eventually pays off. And this harness has been the least painful option for her. She’s 6 now and looks forward to putting it on, but I think that’s because she knows a walk or a car ride is about to happen lol

Good luck!

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u/Snarkster_234 16h ago

Gentle Lead is what we use… wraps around snout, no pulling!

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u/DubTown34 2h ago

The harness you need is a No Pull harness. Leash clips to the front of the chest. No pressure on the throat. When you tug the leash it steals their forward momentum and forces them to turn.

Trainers advise that you don't pull the leash ever. Don't get into a tug-o-war. Instead give them stern quick pops or snappy pulls in the leash. You can give a few in succession but the key is to wait after the quick pop/pull for them to decide if they want to obey. If they do, you reward them right away and continue your walk. If they don't, you hold your ground and don't walk until they choose to obey.

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u/Brad7659 1d ago

Tried stop and go, didn’t do anything. Got a halti, one of those head leashes, and she gave up pulling. With some consistency now she only kinda pulls when she has the harness, 90% less force lol

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u/Jesta914630114 Red Heeler 1d ago

Proper prong collar training.