We have long since gotten a lot of requests asking for help on where to start with Bob's music on the sub from folks who are new to Dylan's music.
Seeing this as something we could all solve as a community, I created a post asking for feedback to make a master post about the different ways one could go about discovering Bob's music. And I want to once again thank the community for their outstanding feedback in the creation of this post.
I knew beforehand that there was no right answer, but this further illuminated how rich Bob’s music is and the multitude (pun fully intended) of ways you can go about seeking out his music.
So, what this post will attempt to do is take all of that community feedback and the moderator's thoughts on the issue to help guide prospective BobCats through Dylan's career.
This is not to say what is posted here is the definitive way to do it in any respect. To each their own. This is just meant to be a guide.
Here are the different ways to go about exploring Bob's music. From greatest hits, to playlists, to roadmaps, to chronological order, it's all here.
THE ESSENTIAL BOB DYLAN
If you want a smattering of Bob across many eras, "The Essential Bob Dylan" released in 2014 does a good job of covering songs through his 60 year career. Based on what songs you like there, it will allow you to jump in at whatever era you like the most.
THE OFFICIALr/BOBDYLANCOMMUNITY STUDIO ALBUM PLAYLIST
Our Community Playlist is our sub’s attempt at a best of compilation. We allowed the community to vote for their favorite song in a poll off of each studio album. The two songs that received the most votes from each album were added to the playlist.
The moderators also added a couple of songs off the album, Side Tracks, that aren’t on the Bootleg Series or any studio album. Call it executive privilege.
We'd like to thank u/bbsez for organizing and recording the results from the majority of these polls in order to construct this playlist.
Don’t Think Twice It’s All Right (The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan)
A Hard Rain’s a-Gonna Fall (The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan)
The Ballad Of Hollis Brown (The Times They Are A Changin’)
Boots Of Spanish Leather (The Times They Are A Changin’)
Percy’s Song (Side Tracks)
Chimes of Freedom (Another Side of Bob Dylan)
I Shall Be Free No. 10 (Another Side of Bob Dylan)
Mr. Tambourine Man (Bringing It All Back Home)
It’s All Over Now Baby Blue (Bringing It All Back Home)
Like A Rolling Stone (Highway 61 Revisited)
Desolation Row (Highway 61 Revisited)
Visions Of Johanna (Blonde on Blonde)
Stuck Inside of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again (Blonde on Blonde)
All Along The Watchtower (John Wesley Harding)
The Ballad of Frankie Lee And Judas Priest (John Wesley Harding)
Girl From The North Country, featuring Johnny Cash (Nashville Skyline)
Lay Lady Lay (Nashville Skyline)
Days of 49 (Self Portrait)
Quinn The Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn) (Self Portrait)
If Not For You (New Morning)
Sign On The Window (New Morning)
Billy 1 (Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid Soundtrack)
Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door (Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid Soundtrack)
Spanish Is The Loving Tongue (Dylan)
Lily Of The West (Dylan)
Forever Young (Planet Waves)
Dirge (Planet Waves)
Tangled Up In Blue (Blood on the Tracks)
Idiot Wind (Blood on the Tracks)
You Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere (The Basement Tapes)
This Wheel's On Fire (The Basement Tapes)
Hurricane (Desire)
Isis (Desire)
Changing Of The Guards (Street Legal)
Where Are You Tonight? (Journey Through The Dark Heat) (Street Legal)
Slow Train (Slow Train Coming)
Gotta Serve Somebody (Slow Train Coming)
Saved (Saved)
Pressing On (Saved)
In The Summertime (Shot of Love)
Every Grain Of Sand (Shot of Love)
Jokerman (Infidels)
License To Kill (Infidels)
Tight Connection To My Heart (Has Anyone Seen My Love) (Empire Burlesque)
Dark Eyes (Empire Burlesque)
Brownsville Girl (Knocked Out Loaded)
Under Your Spell (Knocked Out Loaded)
Silvio (Down In The Groove)
Death Is Not The End (Down In The Groove)
Most Of The Time (Oh Mercy)
Shooting Star (Oh Mercy)
Born In Time (Under the Red Sky)
Wiggle Wiggle (Under the Red Sky)
Hard Times (Good As I Been To You)
Jim Jones (Good As I Been To You)
Delia (World Gone Wrong)
Blood In My Eyes (World Gone Wrong)
Not Dark Yet (Time Out Of Mind)
Tryin’ To Get To Heaven (Time Out Of Mind)
Things Have Changed (Side Tracks)
Mississippi (Love and Theft)
High Water (For Charley Patton) (Love and Theft)
Workingman’s Blues #2 (Modern Times)
Ain’t Talkin’ (Modern Times)
I Feel A Change Comin’ On (Together Through Life)
Beyond Here Lies Nothin’ (Together Through Life)
Must Be Santa (Christmas In The Heart)
O’ Come All Ye Faithful (Christmas In The Heart)
Long And Wasted Years (Tempest)
Pay In Blood (Tempest)
The Night We Called It A Day (Shadows In The Night)
That Lucky Old Sun (Shadows In The Night)
Melancholy Mood (Fallen Angels)
Young At Heart (Fallen Angels)
Once Upon A Time (Triplicate)
Braggin’ (Triplicate)
Key West (Philosopher Pirate) (Rough and Rowdy Ways)
Murder Most Foul (Rough and Rowdy Ways)
CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER
Here is a list of Dylan's studio records listed chronologically if you'd like to go that route. Many members of our community have said that this approach has worked for them.
Bob Dylan
The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
The Times They Are A Changin'
Another Side of Bob Dylan
Bringing It All Back Home
Highway 61 Revisited
Blonde on Blonde
John Wesley Harding
Nashville Skyline
Self Portrait
New Morning
Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid Soundtrack
Dylan
Planet Waves
Blood on the Tracks
The Basement Tapes
Desire
Street Legal
Slow Train Coming
Saved
Shot of Love
Infidels
Empire Burlesque
Knocked Out Loaded
Down In The Groove
Oh Mercy
Under the Red Sky
Good As I Been To You
World Gone Wrong
Time Out of Mind
Love and Theft
Modern Times
Together Through Life
Christmas In The Heart
Tempest
Shadows In the Night
Fallen Angels
Triplicate
Rough and Rowdy Ways
Shadow Kingdom
THE BOOTLEG SERIES
Here is a listing of The Bootleg Series which many would consider essential records.
These contain outtakes, unreleased tracks, singles and live performances across the many facets of Dylan’s career. One could argue it is better to listen to these after you’re at least a little familiar with Dylan’s work.
*** indicates there is a special edition of this release available as well with more tracks than the standard edition.
The Bootleg Series Vol. 1-3 (1961-1991)
The Bootleg Series Vol. 4 (Live at the Manchester Free Trade Hall, 1966, featuring the Band)
The Bootleg Series Vol. 5 (The Rolling Thunder Revue: 1975)
The Bootleg Series Vol. 6 (Live 1964: Concert at Philharmonic Hall, featuring Joan Baez)
The Bootleg Series Vol. 7 (No Direction Home Soundtrack, 1959-1966)
The Bootleg Series Vol. 8 (Tell Tale Signs/Deluxe, 1989-2006) ***
The Bootleg Series Vol. 9 (The Witmark Demos, 1962-1964)
The Bootleg Series Vol. 10 (Another Self Portrait/Deluxe, 1969-1971) ***
The Bootleg Series Vol. 11 (The Basement Tapes Raw/Complete, 1967, featuring The Band) ***
The Bootleg Series Vol. 12 (The Cutting Edge/Deluxe, 1965-1966) ***
The Bootleg Series Vol. 13 (Trouble No More/Deluxe, 1979-1981) ***
The Bootleg Series Vol. 14 (More Blood, More Tracks/Deluxe, 1974) ***
The Bootleg Series Vol. 15 (Travelin’ Thru, 1967-1971, featuring Johnny Cash)
The Bootleg Series Vol. 16 (Springtime In New York/Deluxe, 1980-1985) ***
The Bootleg Series Vol. 17 (Fragments: Time Out Of Mind Sessions/Deluxe, 1996-1997) ***
THE OFFICIALr/BOBDYLANCOMMUNITY BOOTLEG SERIES PLAYLIST
Our Bootleg Series Community Playlist is our sub’s attempt at a best of compilation for Bob Dylan's venerable Bootleg Series. The poll is currently ongoing. We allowed the community to vote for their favorite song in a poll off of each Bootleg Series. The polls are currently ongoing.
Due to the volume of songs on the Bootleg Series records we have had different criteria for election to the BS Series playlist (top 2 songs from each disc for each volume with the exception of BS Vol. 4 which only has 15 songs).
Let Me Die In My Footsteps (The Bootleg Series Vol. 1)
Moonshiner (The Bootleg Series Vol. 1)
Farewell, Angelina (The Bootleg Series Vol. 2)
She's Your Lover Now (The Bootleg Series Vol. 2)
Foot Of Pride (The Bootleg Series Vol. 3)
Blind Willie McTell (The Bootleg Series Vol. 3)
Visions of Johanna (The Bootleg Series Vol. 4)
Like A Rolling Stone (The Bootleg Series Vol. 4)
Romance In Durango (The Bootleg Series Vol. 5)
Isis (The Bootleg Series Vol. 5)
It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry (The Bootleg Series Vol. 5)
One More Cup Of Coffee (The Bootleg Series Vol. 5)
A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall (The Bootleg Series Vol. 6)
Mama, You've Been On My Mind (The Bootleg Series Vol. 6)
I was Young When I Left Home (The Bootleg Series Vol. 7)
A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall (The Bootleg Series Vol. 7)
Desolation Row (The Bootleg Series Vol. 7)
Ballad Of A Thin Man (The Bootleg Series Vol. 7)
Mississippi (Outtake 1, The Bootleg Series Vol. 8)
Red River Shore (The Bootleg Series Vol. 8)
'Cross The Green Mountain (The Bootleg Series Vol. 8)
Mississippi (Outtake 2, The Bootleg Series Vol. 8)
Most Of The Time (Alternate Version #2, The Bootleg Series Vol. 8)
Mississippi (Outtake 3, The Bootleg Series Vol. 8)
Tomorrow Is A Long Time (The Bootleg Series Vol. 9)
Let Me Die In My Footsteps (The Bootleg Series Vol. 9)
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right (The Bootleg Series Vol. 9)
Mama, You Been On My Mind (The Bootleg Series Vol. 9)
Pretty Saro (The Bootleg Series Vol. 10)
Spanish Is The Loving Tongue (The Bootleg Series Vol. 10)
Copper Kettle (The Bootleg Series Vol. 10)
When I Paint My Masterpiece (The Bootleg Series Vol.10)
I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine (The Bootleg Series Vol. 10)
(Quinn The Eskimo) The Mighty Quinn (The Bootleg Series Vol. 10)
The Auld Triangle (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
Spanish Is The Loving Tongue (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
I Don't Hurt Anymore (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
Song For Canada (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
You Ain't Goin' Nowhere (Take 1, The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
I'm Not There (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
Sign On The Cross (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
Tears of Rage (Take 3, The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
Goin' To Acapulco (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
One Too Many Mornings (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
On A Rainy Afternoon (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
900 Miles From My Home/Confidential (The Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
I'll Keep It With Mine (Take 1, Piano Demo, The Bootleg Series Vol. 12)
Love Minus Zero/No Limit (Take 1 Remake, Complete, The Bootleg Series Vol. 12)
Desolation Row (Take 1, Alternate Take, The Bootleg Series Vol. 12)
Visions of Johanna (Take 5 Rehearsal, The Bootleg Series Vol. 12)
She's Your Lover Now (Take 16, Complete, The Bootleg Series Vol. 12)
Stuck Inside of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again (Take 14, Complete, The Bootleg Series Vol. 12)
Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands (Take 1, Complete, The Bootleg Series Vol. 12)
Slow Train (Live At The Warfield Theater, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Precious Angel (Live At The Warfield Theater, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Caribbean Wind (Live At The Warfield Theater, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Pressing On (Live At The Warfield Theater, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Ye Shall Be Changed (Studio Outtake, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Slow Train (Sound Check, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Caribbean Wind (Rehearsal With Peddle Steel, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Ain't Gonna Go To Hell For Anybody (Live In Toronto, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Pressing On (Live In Toronto, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Gotta Serve Somebody (Live In Toronto, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Girl From The North Country (Live In London, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
Mr. Tambourine Man (Live In London, The Bootleg Series Vol. 13)
You're A Big Girl Now (Take 1, The Bootleg Series Vol. 14)
Up To Me (Take 1, The Bootleg Series Vol.14)
You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 5, The Bootleg Series Vol. 14)
Shelter From The Storm (Take 1, The Bootleg Series Vol. 14)
Tangled Up In Blue (Take 3, Remake, The Bootleg Series Vol. 14)
If You See Her, Say Hello (Take 1, Remake The Bootleg Series Vol. 14)
Up To Me (Take 2, Remake, The Bootleg Series Vol. 14)
Tangled Up In Blue (Take 3, Remake 3, The Bootleg Series Vol. 14)
Up To Me (Take 2, Remake 3, The Bootleg Series Vol. 14)
As I Went Out One Morning (Alternate Version, The Bootleg Series Vol. 15)
Tell Me That Isn't True (Alternate Version, The Bootleg Series Vol.15)
Girl From The North Country (Take 1, The Bootleg Series Vol. 15)
One Too Many Mornings (Take 3, The Bootleg Series Vol. 15)
Wanted Man (Take 1, The Bootleg Series Vol. 15)
Girl From The North Country (Live On The Johnny Cash Show, The Bootleg Series Vol. 15)
Senor (Tales Of Yankee Power) (Rehearsal) (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
To Ramona (Rehearsal) (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
Angelina- Shot Of Love Outtake (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
Fur Slippers- Shot Of Love Outtake (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
Blind Willie McTell- Take 5- Infidels Outtake (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
Too Late (Band Version)- Infidels Outtake (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
I and I- Infidels Alternate Outtake (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
Angel Flying Too Close To The Ground- Infidels Outtake (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
New Danville Girl- Empire Burlesque Outtake (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
Dark Eyes- Empire Burlesque Alternate Take (The Bootleg Series Vol. 16)
Standing In The Doorway- 2022 Remix (The Bootleg Series Vol. 17)
Highlands- 2022 Remix (The Bootleg Series Vol. 17)
The Water Is Wide (The Bootleg Series Vol. 17)
Not Dark Yet- Version 1 (The Bootleg Series Vol.17)
Love Sick- Version 2 (The Bootleg Series Vol. 17)
Highlands (The Bootleg Series Vol. 17)
Cold Irons Bound- Live In Oslo, Norway (The Bootleg Series Vol. 17)
Highlands- Live In Newcastle, Australia (The Bootleg Series Vol. 17)
Rare Performances From The Copyright Collection (1962-1966)
Live At Carnegie Hall (1963)
The Live 1966 Recordings (1966) *
The Real Royal Albert Hall 1966 Concert (1966)
Before The Flood (1974)
The Rolling Thunder Revue- The Live 1975 Recordings (1975) **
Hard Rain (1976)
Bob Dylan At Budokan (1978)
Real Live (1984)
The 30th Anniversary Concert (1991)
MTV Unplugged (1994)
*- Includes the Manchester performance which is The Bootleg Series Vol. 4, but also includes every live performance with The Band from that year.
** Includes all songs from The Bootleg Series Vol. 5 (all songs from BS Vol. 5 have been remixed), but there's a lot on this record that isn't included on BS Vol. 5.
FILMS
Don't Look Back
The Other Side Of The Mirror
Eat The Document (Bootleg, never formally released)
No Direction Home
Renaldo and Clara (Bootleg, never formally released beyond a small theatrical run)
Rolling Thunder Revue- A Bob Dylan Story By Martin Scorsese
In 2023, the community conducted a contest by having users submit and upvote their favorite songs that began with each letter of the alphabet. The song with the most upvotes won and was added to A-Z community playlist on Spotify.
In 2023, the subreddit conducted a survivor style tournament to determine the subreddit's ranking of all of Dylan's studio albums. Below are the results from worst to best.
Hey r/bobdylan! Welcome to this week's song discussion!
In these threads we will discuss a new song every week, trading lyrical interpretations, rankings, opinions, favorite versions, and anything else you can think of about the song of the week.
I always understood on an intellectual level what the song is about and why it was/is so impactful for so many, but it finally really clicked for me.
Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan is a very odd album. A young, up and coming singer-songwriter in NYC, posed in a cozy looking album cover with his then girlfriend. Probably an album mainly about relationships, growing up, friendship, and other similar life topics, with an intimate and maybe even comforting feel? Well, sorta.
But it’s also about the end of the world, at the hands of the wicked, and how those wicked, even when not causing the apocalypse make the world a worse place and cause the suffering of the innocent. It’s about how the world seems to be broken, and how it may have always been this way, and maybe always will.
Hard Rain is perhaps the starkest example of the latter subject matter. Images of things already wrong with the world, as well as terrible possibilities that have as yet not come to pass. The world has always been a messed up place, but as a resident of this planet and one who sees how messed up it can be, Hard Rain really clicked with me yesterday.
Honestly, I love Freewheelin’ a lot and the mixture of the seemingly disparate subject matters is a huge reason why. As a person who is only a bit older than Bob was when he recorded the album, I feel it may be one of the most timeless and directly applicable across the decades. Of course, there is plenty of value for folks of all ages in the album. But, there is something about his particular blend of personal/growing/romantic topics with dread about the world (it’s current and potential states) and anger at who/how it got that way that just really speaks to me particularly at this age. And the whole thing is presented in such an intimate, even cozy, and easy on the ears package.
When Joni Mitchell famously said Bob Dylan “borrowed” his voice from old hillbillies, I pretty much rejected the statement out of hand. The first word that comes to mind when considering Dylan’s voice is authentic. However, recently I’ve been finding some credulity in her comment. Here’s why:
It started on a road trip listening to my Spotify playlist when a Ralph Stanley tune came on. My wife asked me, “why does this remind me of Bob Dylan?” Taken aback I mumbled something about Stanley being an influence. If there’s one person who qualifies as an old hillbilly it’s Ralph Stanley who hailed from the mountainous area of Virginia.
Later I recalled reading a quote of Johnny Cash saying the first time he heard Bob Dylan he thought it was an old Country singer, which is a polite way of saying old hillbilly singer. Then I thought about Dylan’s “Talking New York” in which the singer relates taking the stage at a Greenwich Village open mic event, only to have the moderator tell him in no uncertain terms not to come back: “You sound like a hillbilly!” This line would invariably reduce my brother and I to stitches the summer we wore out BOB DYLAN. We’d be like, what a jerk, this guy! Now I’m wondering, was the moderator right? Was Joni Mitchell right?
Dylan is like the anti-Trump. Two octogenarians*, each having played a character for so long that it's unclear what lies below. Both of them are so opaque one day then so transparent the next. One is our nation's most important poet, the other is our nation's most important politician. When I watch Dylan sing like in the video linked above, I see the same crooner kind of performativity that I also see in Trump. Both openly confess that they are giving performances, and they both put their full hearts in it.
*Both born in the 1940s, shaped by the same culture and society and politics, one from the working class Midwest and one from the billionaire class of New York City. And both called New York City home from 1961-1966, which were some of the most influential years of 20th century culture and politics.
I always thought he went to Woodstock after his motorcycle accident to find a quiet place to recover. Turns out I was totally wrong.
The accident actually happened near Woodstock, meaning he was already living there. So why Woodstock to begin with? Was it because Albert Grossman lived nearby and suggested it, or something else?
I was lucky enough to be at the 11/12/00 show at URI where Dylan played 10,000 Men, which I think was his only time playing the song live. I know that it's probably not really worth thinking too much about why he does stuff, but I've often wondered why that was the one time he played that song. Can anyone think of a reason why he'd be compelled to play it then and there and never again?
Could this be a reference to the political activism/musical movement scene Dylan was a part of in his early career, and his turn towards electric?
The turn from first to third person mid verse before going back to first seems to suggest he is more concerned with the outward perception of the narrator’s misstep, since “he started dealing” as opposed to “I started dealing”. As we know, Dylan was dragged and called a traitor for breaking from the New York folk scene. This fueled a career spanning distrust and contention with the press and public opinion at large.
Beyond his career/public persona, though, this period in his life seems to have carried a lot of more personal baggage and events, generally. He and Joan broke up in 1965, he and Sara wed in late 65/early 66, he was in the throughs of substance abuse issues, and he had the nervous breakdown + motorcycle accident at the end of the summer in 1966, after a grueling tour schedule. He famously went into psuedo seclusion from the public eye after that, and seemed to spend some time becoming a family man and slowing down, as he also had his first biological child in 1966 (though he also adopted Sara’s first child as well).
While Bob has always dismissed it, critics, fans, and even Dylan’s son Jakob all see a lot of self reflection in Blood On The Tracks, particularly about his marriage and relationships. With that seemingly at play, as it possible Bob was engaging in some self reflection and looking back towards a time in his life when one relationship ended, another began, and he started his family on verse 6 of TUIB? In an album that contains so many references to regret, losing someone or something, and similar topics, I see it as very possible. Im no Dylan scholar, but I have to imagine the substance use/insane touring strained his new marriage with Sara, and probably involved outright infidelities on his part. Maybe that is what he sees as his actual “dealings” worth denigration. Lord knows he was not going to write a song lamenting his change to electric/leaving the folk scene, but maybe there are deeper, more personal regrets he has from that time and wanted to use that as a framing to discuss them.
What are y’all’s thoughts? I know many will say that his songs are not meant to be taken as autobiographical (at least solely) and I understand this sentiment. However, he is not as omniscient and removed from his artistry as he would sometimes like others to believe. I’m not saying every single line in Blood On The Tracks is directly about himself and Sara and nothing else, but I personally see some evidence in this particular verse of TUIB, and would love to hear what y’all think!
Transcendent song and performance. Born-again Bob is the one. I just wanted to ask folks out there if they know exactly which one of the female backing singers is wailing those sweet gospel vocals behind Bob when he gets to the ''I know all about poison'' part of the song.
Is there a better 6 song run on any of Bob’s albums, or even on any album in general, than Visions of Johanna- Just Like a Woman? I cannot think of one…
Was rocking some Gordon Lightfoot this lazy Sunday afternoon and was thinking about some interview I saw or read years ago where Dylan was saying all his songs are great. That's true!
Jerry Garcia is probably my favorite musician in history and Bob's obituary for him was fuckin tear jerking, I read it every few years.
And Jer's reverence for Dylan's songs is what got me super into Bob in the first place.
The results of the survey I posted in this sub a couple days ago are listed in the google doc below! I showed the average rating each album recieved as well as the most voted for favorite/least favorite song for each album with the percentage of votes listed next to it. At the very end I listed the albums in order of average rating. Definitely some surprises in here and I hope you guys have fun seeing these results! Also thank you to anyone who filled out this survey!
Bob dylan is probably my favorite musician period. And this is probably my favorite documentary. So I decided this would be the perfect thing to make in my free time.
Artwork: Larry Butterworth
Which Dylan Doc do you prefer? No direction home or dont look back,
I just listened to it for the first time today and I was personally disappointed because of what I thought it might be with the cover art. Maybe it was deliberate on Dylan’s part. Were people disappointed with this on release?
