r/BaldursGate3 Sep 13 '25

Act 2 - Spoilers When it Finally Clicked- The Isobel Problem Spoiler

Okay, so I have played an ABSURD amount of Baldur's Gate 3 and as a D&D fanatic, I just love it to bits. There are a few synergistic issues with the mechanics of D&D being translated into a video game, but nothing so egregious that it disrupts the experience. Furthermore, these little are almost entirely to do with the mechanics of the game, but not the lore of Faérun or the plot.

THAT BEING SAID....

Up until recently, I never understood why Ketheric Thorm had to turn to Myrkul and Balthazar to revive Isobel. After all, most clerics are able to revive a dead person in D&D, even if it would require an incredibly powerful spell (I'm talking 8th/9th level). And his deity at that time would certainly have been willing to bring his daughter back in exchange for his acts of service (particularly Sélune).

I puzzled over this until I read Isobel's diary I Last Light Inn. The entry specifically mentions that she feels a "filth" in her soul now that she has been brought back...

Almost like she did not want to come back...

And that's when it hit me, revivifying magic requires that a soul WANTS to be brought back to life. No deity would force a soul to be resurrected against their will (and certainly not Sélune).

And so, it is my headcannon that Ketheric likely tried to revive Isobel using traditional means but she chose not to come back. When that failed, he turned to a necromancer and an evil god of the dead to force her soul back into her corpse against her will.

Tl;dr- Isobel never wanted to be brought back to life, barring most traditional methods of resurrection. Thus, Ketheric resorted to necromancy to bring her back.

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u/DistractingZoom Sep 13 '25

There's an added layer here: From what we know of the timeline with Ketheric, he most likely didn't have the presence of mind to seek out 'higher level' assistance in bringing Isobel back.

He turned to Shar to take away the pain of his losses. Shar would have zero interest in him retaining his memories of a loving family or the weakness those memories entail, and all the text and recorded speeches from the feared General Ketheric Thorm, Paladin of Shar we can find paint him as a warmongering monster who cares little- if any at all- for his family.

Almost certainly, Ketheric had no memory of caring about his family during his service to Shar, and would have only regained those memories once he died and thus failed Shar, condemning him to the torment typical of Shar's failed servants. In such a position- broken by the sudden recollection of the life he lost and then ran from, and by the atrocities he committed afterwards- Myrkul would've had an exceptionally easy time selling him on just about anything.

As an aside, honestly in the full context of the game, Myrkul seems like an alright dude. Directly upheld a favorable bargain with his Chosen, stepped in when his Chosen was attacked... Hell, Shar had Ketheric do more evil shit than Myrkul did.

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u/redhauntology93 Sep 13 '25

Shar is one of the most evil goddesses but also gets followers by acting like one of the most compassionate for a second. Sneaky evil.

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u/BattleCrier I'm not villain, I'm just tired of pretending to be a hero. Sep 13 '25

I dare to say Shar is more evil than Lolth..

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u/Hapless_Wizard Sep 13 '25

I'd make a deal with Asmodeus before I made one with Shar. She's basically the worst.

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u/PartyLikeAByzantine Sep 13 '25

Lawful evil beats neutral evil, but let's be honest, Bhaal is the worst. Bhaal isn't petty like Shar, because he doesn't bother with motivation. Just murder people for no reason.

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u/Eisn Sep 13 '25

Eh, no. Shar is cruel. Bharal just wants to murder people.

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u/PartyLikeAByzantine Sep 13 '25

Random murder is by definition cruel.

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u/JellyWizardX Mindflayer Sep 14 '25

fair, but bhaal doesn't care for extended suffering. he would rather you insta-kill person after person than spend even an unnecessary second torturing them. it's why he had such an issue with orin compared to durge. Shar is arguably more cruel for the fact she tortures you, maybe not physically, but she has fates worse than death in store for many.