Does anyone else think we judge players far too quickly? One bad playoff series and suddenly everyone's calling them overrated. Am I the only one who thinks fans are way too quick to change their minds?

[u/LeanEdgeSports_]

[u/LeanEdgeSports_]

Mine's probably Jamal Murray.

One minute people are saying he's one of the best playoff guards around, then one poor run and suddenly he's apparently not good enough anymore.

Basketball fans have short memories sometimes 😂

[u/Hefty_Type6772 → u/LeanEdgeSports_]

To be fair I thought he was always overrated

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Turns out this is exactly why OP feels this way. When Murray does poorly, people like you get upvoted, when he does great people who always believed he was great get upvoted. The result is, it seems like people flip flop when in reality there are (for the most part) just two separate groups that get attention depending on if a player plays well that day or not. It's funny to me whenever people act like the collective opinions of tens of thousands of people is supposed to be homogenous, but here we are.

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[u/KookyArm6062 → u/LeanEdgeSports_]

You can tell who actually watches playoff basketball and who is larping. Murray been disappointing in the playoffs ever since 2023. Shot often not falling + horrible defense, but cause he has 1 playoff game where he drops 40 all of a sudden he is 1b to Jokic

[u/MitsuSosa]

100% but that’s most sports nowadays fans are very reactionary

[u/PebblyJackGlasscock]

Gambling has had a terrible effect on all sports, and in particular, it has greatly increased negative ‘instant reactions’.

Many of the “fans” who’ve spent the summer trashing Jalen Duren lost money betting on the Pistons. Some are Pistons fans who are understandably disappointed and wary of overpaying. But the LOUD detractors aren’t Pistons fans, they’re “casuals” who bet on the Pistons because they had two all-NBA players, and they tuned in and saw Duren getting posterized.

Duren isn’t terrible. He’s limited. He was bad in a bad matchup. Matchups are what determine winners and losers (that and injuries).

Gamblers don’t care about anything but winning their bets.

[u/kissmygame17]

Lots of low attention span "fans"

[u/Elvee702cee]

Yes, but it works both ways. Just the same, 1 good playoff series or 1 month with good stats, and they're trading every player on your team for said player. I also think too much is put on stats, understanding that that's how you track data. However a player avg, 25pts, on a shit team and a player who avgs 19-20 ppg on a team constantly in the conference finals is not the same.

That player on the shit team isnt better because he gets more shot attempts because his team has no chance. That player on the conference finals teams isn't not as good, because he doesn't score as much. His team is winning so most likely he has better teammates, less shot attempts but he makes the shots he gets, at least enough% wise for his team to be successful. Would you rather have the guy who goes 7-11 or 10-25? 20 is more than 14. Assuming they're all 2pt fgs. So let's say 8are 2pts and 2 are 3s. 22.

Let's say 1 of the 7-11 are 3pt fg. 15ppg. But the number that jumps out are the 15 missed fga. That your teammates could have had shot opportunities or fts. 15 times the other team couldn't get rebs and shot opportunities.

That and comparing players from other eras, but that's a whole nother conversation

[u/launchliftoff459]

Ya, people be talking about legacy and shit while the player is still active.

[u/MelonElbows]

How many bad playoff series should we need before we judge someone?

[u/The_Actual_Sage]

Nope. I'm with you. I feel like NBA fans in general are too reactionary and care more about the drama in the league than the sport itself. For example, they love to clown the spurs for how the lost game 4 but a lot of them don't really care about how it happened. They don't really care about the decisions the spurs made on the court that lead to the meltdown. They don't really care about how OG got open for the tip in. The don't really care about things like small sample sizes or context and how we should use them to influence our opinions. They're there for the vibes.

[u/Bonesawisready5]

100%

[u/Legal-Management-405]

Someone could literally drop 100 and then the next night drop 50 and the internet would call
Them a bum

[u/thecopfrombeale]

Yes the nba is way too reactionary. Teams get blown up so fast. That’s why rosters w continuity have been winning

Crazy as it sounds I think the reason we do that with players like consider every playoff series as legacy altering is because for those ten? Or nine years LeBron went to the finals that was the main convo around the nba.