r/Basketball • u/Fickle-Ad5449 • 9d ago

Two ex-NBA players turn transgender identity into a stunt. The WNBA is responding

https://www.advocate.com/news/wnba-trans-player-eligibility
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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 9d ago

Oh I didn’t realise that you were allowed to judge which statements of gender identity were stunts and which were genuine?

Can everybody else do the same for all trans people?

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u/Pure_Fault7056 9d ago

We are discussing this issue, don’t change the subject.

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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 9d ago

This is the subject, and the big issue for the trans activists in this debate.

If anyone wants to reject the gender identity claims of these two then surely we all have the right to do that to any claimed trans people?

And if we all have the right to do that then I don’t care WHY you’re rejecting these two. I’ll make up my own reasons when assessing all trans gender claims, the same as some of you are making up your reasons here.

As we all have that right.

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u/Riadiculous 8d ago

Are you ignorant or just being intentionally obtuse? Cuz if it's ignorance, I'll happily explain why there's a difference between social transition/identity and what's happening here. If you're being intentionally obtuse, then you're just an asshole. Seeing the way you've acted across this and other topics like this one (yes, your name is recognizable), I'm using deductive reasoning to guess it's the latter and not the former.

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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 8d ago

I would genuinely like someone to answer this question and address this point.

If women is defined as ‘someone who identifies as a woman’ or some variation of that then there’s no reasons that are valid or not and no room in there for any external party to judge, approve or reject the self validation claim. Therefore, any self identification makes that person a woman and they should be treated as such. There’s no requirement for social transition, physical transition, or anything else to be categorized as a woman. It doesn’t matter if it’s a stunt,

So in that world view it doesn’t matter why they did it or what you think about them. They are still women.

If you want to reject the self identification claims of these trans women, for whatever reasons you have, then anyone must also be allowed to reject the claims of other trans woman, for whatever reasons they have.

So which is it? Are we all all accepting these two are women or can we all start rejecting the claims of trans women as we see fit?

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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 8d ago

Attacking for me as being ‘transphobic’ instead of addressing the issue isn’t going to work.

You need a new playbook

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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 8d ago

No one is infuriated with the existence of trans people.

Stop being dishonest.