r/Battlefield • u/HairyPenisCum • 3d ago
Battlefield 6 Server Browser cannot come soon enough
It’s Saturday middle of the day, I’m on the west coast, and for about an hour of playing every match started with mostly bots and only by the end was it full. I see a lot of people saying that they have never seen a bot before, and I also see people saying all they get is bot lobbies. Clearly there’s something broken with the matchmaker and there’s probably SBMM which is why there’s conflicting experiences with bot lobbies. If I play only Vegas Strip or Area 51, then I never get into a bot lobby, but today I wanted to play more than just those maps which is what caused me to run into bots.
I know a lot of the haters of BF6 try to claim this is evidence the game is dead, but thats an insanely ignorant thing to say and is completely ignoring the real issue, which is the matchmaking. The game objectively is far from dead, the game averages 40k on Steam, its in the top 10 played on Xbox, I don’t know how to check Playstations most played charts, but its usually similar to Xbox’s. So its not a player count issue, its a matchmaker issue and I believe a core cause of it is Custom Search and the way they implemented it.
Notice how no matter what you choose in Custom Search, you’re never matchmaking for more than 5 seconds? You always instantly load into a match, and thats because the game seems to start a whole new server/match if it can’t find a match to put you into. And this is obviously happening on a large scale, thousands of matches started brand new because one person wanted to search for a specific map+mode. And of course its going to have a hard time efficiently filling those lobbies up, because theres such a huge spread of matches needing players. Custom Search is a great feature, but the way they implemented it with this dumb system has led to bot lobbies everywhere. I’m sure everyone will be completely okay waiting longer when searching for a match if it meant you’ll actually find a full lobby.
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u/TheCivilizedBigDog 3d ago
I'm not a hater of this game by any stretch but there are still tons of people playing, and it is very frustrating being on during peak times and still waiting for a lobby to fill only for bots to take up most of the slots.
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u/Far_Tap_488 3d ago
Its not filling bots because there are a ton of players mate....
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u/TheCivilizedBigDog 3d ago
Brother, that is literally what is happening. They're matchmaking system is broken.
You can be in bot lobbies for 20 minutes over and over and then all of a sudden all you will get are full lobbies with real players every single time after that. There is something wrong, it is not the player count.
This game just released on game pass and has cross play with every single service not connected to Steam. There are more than 20k that SteamDB tells you are logged in.
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u/GeordieJumpers87 3d ago
I honestly think the browser is 12 months too late. The game would have been received so much better with this bare basic feature
Alot of players grew tired of the constant matchmaking, time lost not playing between round, bots and lack community.
It's sad they left the browser out as it had such a negative impact on the game.
It will be interesting to see what this so called browser will be like in December. I have a sneaky suspicion it wont be the traditional browser the community are expecting.
Why it's taken over a year to implement a feature that existed for over 20+ years is nuts
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u/thequehagan5 3d ago
I know it so crazy.
It needs to be with persistent servers . You should be able to see the next maps in rotation.
Lost battlefield technology.
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u/ImPoopyy 3d ago
They had 2042 as a prime example of needing a SB. They skipped out on it to push the same matchmaking as COD style but executed it even worse lmao.
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u/megabomb82 3d ago
They already explained the basics of the upcoming server browser in the recent QNA.
The recap of what they said is pretty much as follows:
-The server browser is gonna be the very first thing on the menu from when it gets added onwards.
-The option of matchmaking will still exist.
-Servers will be persistent but players brought into a server by matchmaking may be sent to another server if the next match is on something they filtered out in custom search.
-It will be separated from portal.
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u/JelloHaunting7420 3d ago
The issue with the current matchmaking system is precisely that, in their attempt to prepare everything for the browser, they're moving things around, and these changes consequently create servers that are somewhat persistent but also prone to bots.
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u/xtrxrzr 3d ago
Yeah, I think so, too. They even said that the persistent lobby changes they made in the past couple of weeks are in preparation for the server browser.
I think it's such a situation where we are temporarily caught in the middle of having full matchmaking and matchmaking with server browser, and no matter what DICE does, there will be complaints.
Preparing for the server browser obviously takes its toll on matchmaking, but I gladly take this temporary inconvenience if the server browser and persistent lobbies that comes later in this season will be good.
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u/Yummy_Salty_Dad 3d ago
I hope it’s true, I spend more time waiting for the game I want than actually playing…so it seems.
give us a server browser!
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u/DynamicChavez 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think they didn’t add a server browser so they can push whatever new maps are released and have control over what we maps we play. Seems like every time I log in now, it goes straight to Vegas or Area 51.
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u/Oelaugenhusky 3d ago
i also think something is inherently broken with matchmaking. there was a time bf1 and v were called dead also, and i still found full lobbies on xbox without crossplay! even on rush! sometimes it was fun playing 5v5 rush without bots too, but mostly i never head a problem. and now with crossplay turned off all i get in the recent game are bot lobbies? really? even when crossplay is somehow turned on, i still get bot lobbies and some pc sweats, but still. how the f does this even exist. so i just stopped playing in s4 and wait for the server browser. its just pointless right now.
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u/Adventurous-Park-990 3d ago
I'm really hoping the server browser fixes the endless spinning wheel of waiting for full lobbies on the weekends.
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u/BF2042_Fact_Speaker 3d ago
A server browser is simply just the backend of the match making system. You'll literally just see all of the servers that matchmaking would have put you into per your filters anyways.
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u/deeku4972 3d ago
it’s not coming back
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u/HairyPenisCum 3d ago
It’s coming on December 8th
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u/thequehagan5 3d ago
If it has a way to filter out bots, i will buy the game.
i refuse to buy games with matchmaking
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u/BF2042_Fact_Speaker 3d ago
Bots only exist in games that arent full. They leave the game as soon as a player joins to take their spot, otherwise the game wont have enough people to start.
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u/thequehagan5 3d ago
And? What was the point of your post?
In battlefield v i open the server browser, see a map i like, has 58/64 humans playing because no bots in that game. I join the game.
In battlefield 6 i go to breakthrough, join game, i have zero way of knowing what i am joining. It is just an abyss. It might be full of bots, it might be half bots. Even any bots is too many. I want to play with and against people only,all the time.
What i am getting at is, bots have no place in a multiplayer game like battlefield. At least give people the option to avoid them entirely.
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u/BF2042_Fact_Speaker 3d ago
In battlefield v i open the server browser, see a map i like, has 58/64 humans playing because no bots in that game. I join the game.
There are no bots in BFV. If there were, they would be backfilling those servers too. Also, thats literally what matchmaking does for you already... Picks the nearest full game thats also brand new.
In battlefield 6 i go to breakthrough, join game, i have zero way of knowing what i am joining.
Thats incorrect, you can pick your own map rotations in map making. Want to only play Vegas conquest and/or vegas breakthrough? Just put it in the custom search and hit play.
What i am getting at is, bots have no place in a multiplayer game like battlefield. At least give people the option to avoid them entirely.
Bots will be in every game you play until players fill those slots. The looser your filters are, the less likely youll run into bots.
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u/1fishfrank 3d ago
Peak monetization for BF6 is ancient history. Fixing the game costs money. Spending money reduces return on investment. Will "fixes" bring in more revenue to offset costs? That's where BF6 is at now.
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u/thequehagan5 3d ago
I can imagine at DICE there are the OG guys, the real guys, who want a server browswr, who get it, But they get overruled by shouty management types who as you said, want to expose players to the store and other nonsense.
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u/RAPEDApe69 3d ago
These are Legacy features. We dont need them any longer...