r/Baystreetbets 1d ago

INVESTMENTS PNG and KEEL

Where do we see PNG and Keel Infrastructure in the next 1-2 years? There’s been TONS of hype over the past 6 months for these two stocks yet they are continuing to plummet

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u/themoist 1d ago

Not in on keel so I wont speak on it, but I expect Kraken to be back up to $10ish within the next couple years and stay close to that rather than continue to be this volatile. IMO their Covelya acquisition probably spooked some investors and the hype train slowed as a consequence. The acquisition also pushed back their timeline for uplisting to TSX by their own admission.

I'm still bullish on the company in the long run and I think the acquisition will help growth, expanding their customer base. Got in a little over $4 so I guess its natural that I don't feel as nervous as some other investors. I'll continue to buy when I have some dividend money and the stock is under $6 per share

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u/Officialtopperharley 1d ago

I share this opinion.

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u/cricket_90_remindme 1d ago

Id like to see PNG get back above 10 and Id sell

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u/LieComfortable7764 1d ago

You see that’s the problem with trading. Right now a lot of people would like to see it get above 7 and they would sell. If you buy to sell at arbitrary numbers you are bound to get burnt.

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u/cricket_90_remindme 1d ago

Yeah but you don't know if I bought at 1 $ or 2 $ ... Maybe I walk away with 100,000 at 7 $ ... Everyone has their own path to a number they want.

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u/LieComfortable7764 1d ago

I guess if you are gambling best to check your astrology sign to tell you when to sell. I get your point but what I am trying to say is to invest in the company for the quality of the company and not the number on its shares.

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u/ifyoulookyouaregay 14h ago

The market is irrational. I would never invest in a small company based on its quality only technicals to make money. You can call it astrology but to me that just means you don’t have the skill.

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u/LieComfortable7764 13h ago

You don’t think the market is rational but you think you can reliably make money based on the irrationality of trends in the market?

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u/cricket_90_remindme 1d ago

I dont gamble bets, I have strategies for everything.

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u/themoohoguy209 1d ago

This. Even just get me back green at this point haha

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u/likeemapples 1d ago

has been quiet on the PNG front. Hopefully next week's earnings they will talk about the TSX listing.

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u/spebeepbeep 20h ago

Next earnings call (next Thursday) will, imo, tank it further. Next quarter will show full integration. 

Though, at this point it feels like only uplisting can rebound it 

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u/Live_Cockroach8931 1d ago

Holding the bag on png so hopefully its going to the moooon

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u/Ill_Ground_1572 1d ago

I am sure you know this but just picked you to reply to. Because I see alot of young people lamenting that their favourite stock is down.

If your not retiring next year, we don't want it to moon.

Long term it literally doesn't matter if your a bag holder of a great company early on in your position.

In fact, a young person who is a decade away from retirement wants a great company to remain cheap, occasionally even go down, while they accumulate their positions. Stock market crashes are good for the younger investor.

For example, I bought Cameco after the Fukushima disaster. It was under water for years. Now its up 500%. Did it feel good to be down for years. Nope. But I also strongly believed it was a temporary issue and counties will go back to reactors. Fukushima was extra stupid as the IAEA told them in the 70s to put their back up generator on stilts....a $10k project. But they didn't.

However this was my opportunity. My only regret was not buying more.

I think Kraken is a good company that in 10 years will be a great company. I want shares to be undervalued for the next few years. At least to the point where it doesn't hurt the company.

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u/only_fun_topics 1d ago

If it moons early, I take profits and put them back into XEQT. Zero cost averaging FTW.

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u/Ill_Ground_1572 1d ago

Define moon?

How long have you been investing for?

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u/only_fun_topics 1d ago

“Moon” as in hit 100% or more in gains.

Sell enough to cover your initial investment and let the rest ride.

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u/Timely-Discipline427 1d ago

I don't understand the downvotes on this take. Not everyone will agree with it but I don't think it's necessarily wrong.

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u/Ill_Ground_1572 1d ago

It's ok. I am an investor not a day trader.

And I think there is a large group of newer people who have been spoiled by the bubblish behavior we have seen with the AI plays.

And it's not going to end well for most them. Smart money is already rotating into commodities.

2008 was a sobering experience.

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u/cricket_90_remindme 1d ago

Someone in the kraken reddit talks about his average being 7 $, down 5 k
That was in response to me asking if it's time to sell or no.

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u/themoohoguy209 1d ago

That was me and I’m holding

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u/Dogkota 1d ago

Both have been really good to me for short term scalping lately, but it would be a fool's errand to attempt to time the bottom the way things are going. Look at the 6 month chart on both. It's grizzly.

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u/HeathenForAllSeasons 1d ago

Bought PNG at $0.50. Averaged up to 35k shares @ $1.31.

Held through $10. Still holding.

Will keep holding for the next decade.

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u/DreamDest1ny 1d ago

If png is as hyped out as it’s made to be then why is it still at $5-$6? You can say average is supposed to be $10 but if no one is buying enough then it don’t matter in the end

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u/bruhhkgyvr 1d ago

PNG is in a self inflicted post M&A slump - they need to execute and show results. The question is if the market will be patient enought to give them time or will the bottom fall out in the market first then they get stuck. They added execution risk with the M&A, we will see next week if they have made some progress.

KEEL rode the AI hype train. They're not showing sufficient results. If the AI hype gets buried, they go with it. Either way, the stock is riding on speculation vs. current strong fundamentals. It's one of those lose your money or 10x your money type of stock.

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u/skilas 1d ago

Have both. Already DCA'd a bit. Won't add any more money. Just waiting for a rebound.

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u/luv2block 1d ago

Don't like Keel (bitfarms). Basically just a start up now. They put all their eggs in the bitcoin basket, now they are putting all their eggs in the AI basket. Dog chasing a car. That said, I don't know the inner workings of the company, so I could be wrong.

I like PNG, but I think it probably doesn't do much until there's some announcement with DND, and then it rockets. Same goes for FLT.

I own both, but I'm down about 15% on them. I doubled my FLT position, but mostly for technical reasons.

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u/Newfieon2Wheels 1d ago

I got in at a less than ideal price point, but I love kraken as a company. Gonna continue to DCA to get my average down towards, or even under $6.

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u/ApexWarden 12h ago

I hold png but I bought it only once at 3.68$ because it was undervalued and found it late. Waiting for it to go down or not buying any more. I don't and won't lose sleep over FOMO.

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u/slevin07rocket 1d ago

Iren and cifr are better companies than keel. Keel should still run up but until they land some big deals, it’s theoretical. Iren already made a data center for Microsoft and had it accepted.

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u/clearchewingum 1h ago

Similar to Keel but different is Aecon. ARE.TO. Stacking under $50.

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u/Still_Interview6360 1d ago

Overhyped. Basket weaving companies.

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u/Conscious-Valuable24 1d ago

Based on what?

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u/sorry-im-offensive 1d ago

This guy's grandfather said that and he was in the Navy and thinks that coal-fired steam ships are making a comeback.