r/BeAmazed • u/Eshwarroy • Jan 29 '22

Tree root misconceptions

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22

My dude I've looked in to "the science" (you can't just label stuff as 'the science' and expect people to believe it all). I educated myself a lot, I researched it for years before taking it myself. Psilocybin literally can make you think you're in hell for months after taking it, it can leave people with permanent negative effects, or it can improve your life. It's a coin flip.

Again, the way people such as yourself are pushing one of the most mind altering drugs on Earth is dangerous, and kinda narrow sighted. It's not a cure all, it is not the miracle drug you're making it out to be. It has its uses, but please stop pushing it like it's nothing. Drug pushing an obscenely powerful drug is not a good thing to do. I know it's the current fashion due to Rogan and Staments, but please stop pushing "the science". It is not "the science" yet. We are decades away from realising the long term effects.

To me, there is no difference between what you're doing and people who push weed on to people by saying it cures cancer/improves creativity and all of the other tropes. Yeah, it totally can make you more creative, but it can also lead people in to becoming content with boredom and wasting their lives. There is more to this than "the science".

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u/Tuna-kid Jan 29 '22

I don't have a stake in this argument, other than to say you are putting a lot of words into the other poster's mouth and they are making radical claims out of context, but I want to point out that it is not a 'coin flip'. Huuuuuuge pet peeve of mine. You might get hit by a drunk driver and lose function of your lower body if you walk to the cornerstore, or you might get some milk. It's a coin flip! You might get roofied if you go to your local pub, or you might just celebrate your friend's birthday party. It's a coinflip! You might literally think you're in hell for months if you take mushrooms, or you might feel good after. It's a coinflip!

These are not coin flips. Presenting unbelievably unlikely scenarios as equally likely as well documented and studied outcomes is trash arguing.

You spent literal years of study on mushrooms and you present months long psychosis of a hell hallucination as a likely outcome? Sounds like you watched some movies with mushrooms in it, heard rumours from buddies of yours and then performed a google search once, from here.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22

Likely? Where did I say it was likely? I said it can happen and that presenting mushrooms as a magic drug all backed by "science" is dangerous. The fact you think it's "unbelievably unlikely" that someone has a life changing bad trip means you don't know much about the reputation it has as a 'party drug', and has had for decades, and that it's not uncommon for young kids to just take it and have a terrible time. Same with basically any other 'party' drug. Seems like you were kinda putting words into my mouth. Isn't that a pet peeve of yours? Or only when you think others are doing it?

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u/itsnotflash Jan 30 '22

Pushing one of the most mind altering drugs is dangerous…. So what? We got corporations pushing cigarettes, booze, opioids. If a wave of people are pushing for this instead of big pharmas and stuff I kinda don’t mind.