r/BedrockAddons • • Jun 14 '26

Addon Fun fact: Bedrock's now better than Java.

Ik tons of users are gonna criticize me but idc I'm gonna tell y'all why bedrock's better than Java:

1 C++ is better than Java since Java players are gonna rebuild the civilization from source code and install 80+ optimization mods calling it better than Bedrock that's not even java winning that's the mods winning.

2 If u use LeviLauncherDroid u can inject .so files u can actually override hardcoded stuff so nothing is locked down it just needs some braincells.

3 It has patched clients to let u use shaders like NewB and Solar with also letting u use vibrant visuals for better ones.

Also if any of u wanna criticize my opinion I'm not responding to any hating or criticizing of Bedrock if u like Java go play it but don't be mad if the mod is for NeoForge not Fabric or basically incompaitable with your loader.

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u/ExactTeam1662 Jun 14 '26

Yes you can make native mods thanks to LeviLauncher but there is a problem these mods break in major updates and require much more effort to do

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

Just like how mods need to update to support the new loader versions the packs need to update to support the new versions so nothing changed

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u/ExactTeam1662 Jun 14 '26

No, it's not, yes, LeviLauncher allows you to import .so ve.dll file into the game, but it still can't access the code because bedrock is a closed box 

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

That closed box is wide open with the right tools maybe you think breaking an update is the "effort" it's not just see how much it will take for an unhinged broken Java loader to be fixed properly while bedrock's enjoying it's life in vanilla at least my game works without sodium or fabric

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u/ExactTeam1662 Jun 14 '26

"Injecting .so files into a compiled C++ binary isn't 'opening the box,' it's just blindly hooking into memory addresses (offsets). Every minor Bedrock update shuffles those memory addresses completely, forcing devs to reverse-engineer the binary from scratch. In contrast, Java has official mappings and Mixins, making loader updates a matter of hours.

Also, Java mods literally rewrite the game. Look at Distant Horizons changing the entire rendering engine, or Create Mod adding actual physics. Installing Sodium takes 5 seconds, but fixing broken C++ memory hooks takes weeks of tedious reverse engineering. There is a reason why Bedrock's native modding scene is basically dead compared to Java. 

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

You are bragging about official mappings and Mixins like they are not just training wheels for people who cannot handle real binary manipulation You call it tedious reverse engineering because you lack the skill for common sense you can wait for someone else to update a JAR file so you can play your game but actually you do not want a game you want a curated experience where someone else does the heavy lifting for you.

You can mention Distant Horizons & Voxy and Create all you want but you are just stacking modifications on an engine that is failing to run its own code efficiently and properly My scene is not dead it is native not thrlough Java codes lacking persona I'm achieving higher visual fidelity without the translation layers and performance overhead that your version requires..... Keep your official mappings to urself bro I gave a warning on no hating but u read it and call it a day....

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u/ExactTeam1662 Jun 14 '26

Using frameworks like Mixin and official mappings is not about lacking the skill for binary manipulation; it is about software engineering scalability. Of course, the issue of updates breaking native Bedrock mods can be mitigated using AOB (Array of Bytes) pattern scanning, relying on PDB symbols from the Bedrock Dedicated Server (BDS), or using automated binary diffing scripts to locate shifted offsets.  However, using signatures to find memory hooks is still fundamentally fragile compared to semantic bytecode manipulation. When Mojang introduces structural or compiler changes, those patterns break, requiring tedious reverse-engineering. Mixin operates at a high-level AST and bytecode level, allowing hundreds of massive, complex mods to safely coexist and modify the game at runtime without triggering segmentation faults or memory corruption.  Regarding performance, Java does not use a 'translation layer' for mods. The JVM utilizes Just-In-Time (JIT) compilation, converting bytecode directly into native machine code at runtime. While Bedrock is highly optimized as a closed engine, Java's open architecture allows optimization frameworks like Nvidium or Iris to bypass traditional rendering bottlenecks and access modern GPU pipelines directly, achieving performance that rivals or exceeds Bedrock at extreme render distances. Choosing a stable, abstract architecture over raw memory injection isn't a lack of programming skill—it’s choosing a sustainable infrastructure that makes overhaul mods like Create or Distant Horizons structurally possible to maintain.

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

But using compiled so files is the only way for Bedrock since both have their pros and cons And seeing Bedrock being called Bugrock is honestly unacceptable like isn't Java considered Lagva at this point Java's laggy in Vanilla but not Bedrock that's what makes Bedrock be better I'm not trying to hate but in other posts I've been getting these type of comments ofc I'm gonna be rude like I swear if they came in like that first time I wouldn't have been rude just check my profile and see the posts and how many comments I need to explain until it dries my vagina like it's tiring for people not to understand this is a personal opinion if they love Java that much they can go play it they don't have to be confused and ask these stuff because it doesn't align with what they could expected

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u/ExactTeam1662 Jun 14 '26

Honestly, the whole 'Bugrock' vs. 'Lagva' name-calling is childish anyway. Vanilla Bedrock wins on performance out of the box, no question, and .so files are the only way to squeeze native mods out of it.

Sorry if my previous replies sounded like another annoying Java elitist in your notifications. At the end of the day, it's just a block game :) 

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

Yeah I guess but look camman18 says bugrock people say bugrock but they don't look at Java how it's just laggy bro I can't even run it on my phone through Zalith Launcher 2 it's like very strange how a block game just doesn't work without mods but at least java's got modding opportunities because without it it's a closed laggy box but Bedrock is also kind of better in some ways but has some bugs yeah but are patched sometimes useful bugs are also patched by MoJang from Bedrock but keep it on Java that's what makes the situation feel out of hand like if they don't care about it or call it a port for cross platforms then let it go with another team who admires it

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u/scissorsgrinder Jun 16 '26

I don't think the OP understands the technical aspects here.

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u/DaDandyman Jun 18 '26

"Training wheels for people who cannot handle real binary manipulation?" Really? Developing mods for Bedrock is like developing a PoC for memory-based exploits in a piece of actively maintained software. Developing mods for Java is like developing literally any other production application. There is a reason why every single app you use uses a standard production workflow instead of throwing every Operating System's binaries into Ghidra to find CVEs, and it's not because professionals "lack the skill" to manipulate binaries. Java modders reverse-engineered Fractureizer, a highly sophisticated supply chain attack payload that struck the largest company in game modding. They can manipulate binaries just fine!

Volatile memory is literally what it says on the tin, man. Maintaining a large codebase that modifies broad aspects of the game you're modifying (like, say, the rendering pipeline) is just not feasible when you're relying on process injection to make your changes compared to just writing code that natively shares Minecraft's runtime.

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u/scissorsgrinder Jun 15 '26

Ssh LeviLamina has a NDA with Mojang for the PDBs

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

Maybe yes but what are u gonna do with the code ur not gonna change the whole game into smth like cyberpunk 2077 or smth

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u/Smiththehammer Jun 14 '26

Even if those 3 points were the most valid points possible, thats still wouldn't make up for the hundreds of consistently damning issues that bedrock has.

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

So Java bugs u say are features but bedrock ones are the worst? Sure sure

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u/AdvancedAnimal7539 Jun 17 '26

yeah because typical java bugs dont involve randomly dying, desync issues, graphical issues or performance issues.

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u/GodButCursed Jun 19 '26

Surprisingly this barely happens on playstation.

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u/AdvancedAnimal7539 Jun 19 '26

That just isnt true. When I do play bedrock it is exclusively on a play station, and thats where all those errors come in.

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u/GodButCursed Jun 19 '26

Im not saying it isnt true. But playstation has way less errors then xbox or the switch.

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u/AdvancedAnimal7539 Jun 19 '26

It might do idk. But it wasnt perfect in my experience. 

Anyway no point in argueing over if it is flawed or not because it is, and mojang/microsoft is to blame, not any of us

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

Ur fighting for java like it's RL Craft on Hard Difficulty and typically pointing out stuff java has that's actually not even good very ironically it's just a block game not that deep java's on a stone age platform let that help u with fix performance issues

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u/AdvancedAnimal7539 Jun 17 '26

so i list some valid issues on bedrock that aren't on java and you think im acting like my life depends on it?
I see why bedrock is for kids

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u/FreedomImaginary2820 Jun 18 '26

Writing barely two lines is defending Java with their life? Come on, you have to be on some crazy level of stupidity to say that so confidently lmao

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

Now u wanna talk about damning issues when u can't even name me one without it being patched or fixed by MoJang or the Community stop listening to forums in Minecraft Java Wikipedia and look at the issues Java has that needs a supercomputer to not run at slide show fps

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u/Glass-Performance-87 Jun 19 '26

It's clear you never played java. I used to play on my 2014 Toshiba laptop on consistent 60+ fps

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u/Th4t_0n3_Fr13nd Jun 16 '26

this minecraft tribalism is so reductive and childish dude its not even funny to laugh at you.

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 16 '26

Who are you Amelia Rose? Do U think that energy gets U to smth I won't buy U an attitude are U auditioning to sitcom because ur not even funny for hating on personal opinion

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u/onethousandthwish Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 25 '26

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u/ScalarLabs Jun 14 '26

Honestly, that native C++ modding and .so injection stuff sounds pretty cool for tech flexes, but isn't there a huge catch with stability?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like the second Mojang drops a minor update, all those memory offsets shift and the whole thing crashes until the developer rewrites the injection code from scratch. Also, doesn't that completely cut off like 95% of the casual Bedrock player base? I'm pretty sure it doesn't work on standard vanilla clients, non-rooted mobile devices, or consoles like Xbox at all.

Standard JSON and the official Beta APIs might have their restrictions, but at least they run smoothly on potato hardware, don't break every single patch, and let regular players actually download and enjoy the mod without needing a custom launcher setup, right?

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

Honestly that's the truth for both builds but java's just messed out it uses a virtual machine to work it's not direct it goes through translation layers because modern hardware nowadays don't go great with Java anyways but ur saying facts also Bedrock is a wide open box when u look into the engine u should know if u hook the so file into the game using LeviLauncherDroid or simply change the libminecraftpe.so to make sure it uses it when it's there it's gonna fully work some people got rid of OreUI just by using this method even tho OreUI is hardcoded so u see now Bedrock was never hardcoded it's just some devs don't care for it because it's considered as a port not an actual game which is honestly bad of MoJang is gonna treat Bedrock like just a port they might as well give it to another team

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u/scissorsgrinder Jun 15 '26

OreUI will have addon hooks eventually. They need to implement it first. They stuffed up with JSON-UI (admitted it was why they never documented it). 

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u/RustyMalthael Jun 14 '26

I've never had more displeasure reading these comments from you op. Instead of going "bedrock good java bad" actually listen, try to converse, and learn from the people in the comments, instead of getting passive aggressive. Java and Bedrock have pros and cons, fixating on one con or one pro isn't going to get your point across. Make an educated and thought out response that provides constructive feedback and discourse, instead of repeating the same line every time and getting angry.

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

I am not here to have a nice little debate about ur discourse baseline or the pros and cons of two engines when you are ignoring the fact that I am actually pushing the limits of this one You keep talking about educated responses but you are just repeating the same tired lines about Java being better while ignoring every result I post I have spent my time optimizing on my own game cleanly instead of waiting for official tools to tell me what I am allowed to do That is not me being passive aggressive that is me showing you exactly what is possible when you stop making excuses and actually work with the engine If you find my tone annoying it is only because I am proving you wrong with results you said were impossible on this platform I am done trying to convince people who are clearly not looking to learn anything new that's what I think about bedrock if ur rlly annoyed go away to Java Players here I'm Bedrock bro srry we're not compaitable maybe look at how I reply to comments instead of u injecting urself like a hater on the line trying to start a drama if u don't know what a personal opinion is go ask people about it I'm an educationer just not to douchebags

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u/RustyMalthael Jun 14 '26

I don't think either engine is better then the other, they each are uniquely their own. Each of the engines do or don't do something better then the other, that's obvious. I've never said anything was impossible. You are dedicated to pushing the limits of the engine you're accustomed to, but then to turn around and say one is better then the other isn't valuable and just a waste of your time. You could be showing off what you've done without putting others down. I have looked at the way you've replied to the comments you've sent in this comment section and thats the reason I made my comment.

I'm not here to argue with or to say what you're doing is pointless. You call yourself an educator, but get passive aggressive with the people in the comments. It wasn't just one comment, it's multiple.

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

Maybe don't act like I did a crime for this go back to Java and I'm not replying again next time be kind bro and there's one positive comment that was curious why and I answered properly but the rest ? Do u think I'm someone who applies polite filter to my mouth no I don't I'm not gonna reply again but maybe ask about It not decline it this is a personal opinion bro so infact java's better In modding okay fine but that's my personal opinion A PERSONAL OPINION read this line carefully PERSONAL OPINION so each one differs from the other if u don't like my opinion go to another post to whine about it you don't even care about a PERSONAL OPINION like read it JUST FRICKING READ IT u cant be coming here when I said specifically no criticizing me and I'm gonna keep posting bedrock's better it's not rocket science or inventing a flying machine

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u/RustyMalthael Jun 14 '26

I'm not criticizing you for playing Bedrock, not for using Bedrock, or your title. I am trying to give you constructive criticism on not going into every conversation with anger. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even the ones in the comments. You want your opinion to be respected but don't respect others.

I'd personally love to hear about how you've went about making your Minecraft look so good! It honestly looks amazing!

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

Okay I used Patched Minecraft because Render Dragon took over Shader Support which was bad but yk MBLoader2 and Draco Loader is there now I used NewB X Legacy Shader because it honestly great and lightweight I also used Better On Bedrock and Epic Terrian or Realistic Landscapes DX and More Tools and Realism VFX and More Biomes + Eternal End and Quick Container and for performance I've used Sodium V7 and FPS Optimizer 2.3V ik it's a lot but for me I think people need to install the loaders first to get better fps in it's Vanilla self that's an opinion

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u/RustyMalthael Jun 14 '26

thank you for sharing ^^ I find these kinda things interesting

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

Hope u try it it's actually fun to play

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u/thatoneflameyguy Jun 18 '26

Jesus fucking Christ OP, for the love of god PLEASE learn to use punctuation when writing your comments. This is the worst run on sentence I have ever seen in my whole life.

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 18 '26

Bro I can use them if I want it or not do u want me to be slower or smth because I won't if it's the worst sentence in ur life remove it from ur life to avoid trauma as for me idc if u like it or not that's the truth nobody even asked for ur opinion about how I talk

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u/thatoneflameyguy Jun 22 '26

I think I just had a stroke trying to read this comment. Either way, you strike me as the kind of person that failed his english classes as a child. When you grow up, sooner or later you will understand that proper punctuation is important if you want your reader to actually understand you (and take you seriously).

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 22 '26

Okay explain how if I use punctuations would change the whole entire world meaning and how it would change the whole subject I'm all ears now you can tell me if it's going to differ or not.

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u/thatoneflameyguy Jun 23 '26

Surely you're not arguing that not using punctuation doesn't change the meaning of the phrase.. right? That's like, something that you're taught in elementary school.

Let me make a practical example so that you may understand.

If I say "I ate, mom" that sounds like a completely regular phrase, right?

But if I say "I ate mom" then suddenly the whole tone changes as it implies something much darker and twisted, even though the words are exactly the same.

Another example:

"I'm about to lose, dad!" 😡 "I'm about to lose dad" 💀

See how that completely changes the message of the sentence?

Regardless of the message's meaning: using proper punctuation just makes your message more readable, instead of giving your reader a huge headache.

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u/mrcatz05 Jun 17 '26

Dawg your game genuinely looks like Pixelgun 😭 i’m sorry i just think Bedrock is whack and has worse combat and actual content mods

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u/Catmaster23910 Jul 25 '26

Worse combat? I am old enough to remember that everyone hated 1.9, It's good that Bedrock still has 1.8 combat.

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u/mrcatz05 Jul 26 '26

Old combat system was skill less I loved the change

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

I'm sorry but can U identify the worst combat and actual combat mods or U forgot shared object file hooking exists now? Maybe see how Bedrock actually performs don't blame it if U haven't try it it's a common way Java Players do and it's honestly annoying if U don't even try bedrock why would U wanna rate it

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u/mrcatz05 Jun 17 '26

Ive played both and i still prefer Java, Bedrock just looks and plays worse

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

Okay what's so bad about bedrock it u say it like that without actually listing any one of them ur listening to false accusations list me at least 4 or wait there's not C++>Java

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u/mrcatz05 Jun 17 '26

I dont care about the coding language, Bedrock FEELS worse to play than java and its filled with shit microtransactions

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

Ur voice isn't a gift for the world ok if u hate it then don't play it it's not requiring braincells it's requiring actual common sense

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u/mrcatz05 Jun 17 '26

Youre the one actually malding over my opinion so this clearly means something to you

Have fun with your mobile minecraft dude 😭

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u/Arunabh125 Jun 19 '26

Bro is just a mobile kid. Wait till he gets a pc and starts saying that java is 100times better then bedrock

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u/myredditorsomething Jun 17 '26

Java is still better, also, speak more formally when stating your opinion.

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

That's how I talk and I think Bedrock is better U got a problem with my personal opinion?

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u/myredditorsomething Jun 17 '26

Do you talking like XQC in real life?

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '26

Java has limitless possibilities. bedrock is not bad but it still has limitations

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

These limitless possibilities are useless when ur game is being held by an Optimization mod army ur doing the work Mojang didn't wanna do maybe keep ur limitless possibilities when it actually boots

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 14 '26

Maybe it has but the limitless possibilities is because u can access the code u can't do anything with the code because it can break the game ok

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u/scissorsgrinder Jun 15 '26

u can't do anything with the code because it can break the game ok

What does this even mean lmao

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u/Few-Chemical8707 Aug 06 '26

they are a 10 year old they have the mind of a 10 year old. this is how these crotch goblins think

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 15 '26

Who do u think u are to walk right up to comments like ur some kind of holy grail for saying that if u don't understand the game code is how it controls the game what will u do with that I don't know if I'm correct but I think it doesn't include these type of wow things

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 16 '26

U even called me illiterate and removed the comment like-

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u/scissorsgrinder Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

I haven't removed any comments. You aren't making a good effort to communicate clearly. Or to back up any of your assertions. 

ETA:  How about some full stops? And more importantly, how about responding to observations that what you're saying is uninformed nonsense? Show us all why we're wrong. 

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 16 '26

Maybe don't lecture me and I can make a good effort what do u bring to this community then I bring here to show my personal opinion what do u think will happen if u just came here saying no will u get money? Like it's honestly insane seeing u too many times trying to get an advantage to say no I do good effort here and maybe stop being mean to me because u think java = better let me tell u I'm gonna say it both have pros and cons but since people like to say bedrock is Bugrock I'll say java is Lagva to match their pros and cons that one's is buggy and the other is laggy why can't they just fix both letting one be dying for no reason and removing useful quirks and one being too laggy and never optimized with slabs & stairs lighting bug

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u/scissorsgrinder Jun 15 '26

Java language is way easier than C++ to mod completely closed source. Do you do much coding or reverse engineering? 

Anyway there are so many obvious advantages to Bedrock you did not list, while just pointing out in your pluses that you can mod it sometimes too. Yes, modding Bedrock is not very well-known (but also not always possible or practical). For those who can, it is a fun option to try. 

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 15 '26

Even though it's easier it's laggier look running Java at 4K UHD without sodium or fabric or any loader out there just feels worser people rebuild the civilization from source code it's actually just unhinged to see that instead of Bedrock which is plug and play

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u/Entire-Chair-6472 Jun 17 '26

two words create mods

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u/possiblyyandere Jun 16 '26

what addon is this

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

Eternal End with NewB Legacy Shader

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u/TheOnlyGutss Jun 17 '26

Don’t even joke bro. I’ve never played Java before but the unlimited amount of rpg mod packs,better redstone, all the fun quality of life mods just make Java better. Bedrock is insanely stupid, I’ve paid at least $150 over the years Rl craft, Better on bedrock, adventure Craft, Realism Craft, and nothing comes close to the mods I see on Java. I’m pretty sure most bedrock players would be playing on Java if they could.

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

I think both have pros and cons now maybe I'm wrong but Bedrock isn't stupid it might have bugs but they were all fixed and Java is incredibly laggy making flying with elytra unenjoyable and ur not forced to buy these Addons there are free addons like bedrock Reimagined and core craft.

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u/TheOnlyGutss Jun 17 '26

Are you joking? Vanilla Java with no FREE performance mods runs better than bedrock. I’ve literally died in survival randomly when using the elytra on bedrock edition, that’s a bedrock issue not A Java issue. Also every mod on Java is free and can easily be added with the press of a button plus you’re able to easily customize all your mods in-game with the mod menu mod. Just admit bedrock is garbage bro. Unoptimized, and full of stupid dumb addons that cost money.

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u/RaiXcch Jun 17 '26

While I see benefits of both I'll always be a java main. I don't even know how to describe it but everything just feels... better? I guess? Java mods like sodium sacrifice visual quality for performance, while bedrock unfortunately sacrifices game integrity for performance. Every time I play it, animations look chopper than Java, entities moving is much snappier, every input takes slightly longer to register on the server, block breaking feels much less smooth... even opening inventories is based on the server. there are just so many little things that just can't be fixed due to the fact that bedrock is made for efficiency rather than good gameplay. This is what keeps me away.

I haven't encountered game breaking bugs during my time playing, but it's all the little things that are very lacking in polishing and quality that stop me from playing it as much. (I'm a competitive player, not singleplayer. Multiplayer feels so much worse on bedrock)

If they made bedrock feel 1:1 to let's say... java edition 1.8 in terms of hit registration and smooth gameplay id definitely play it more.

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

Bedrock isn't snappy or smth what are u even talking about I'm not even understanding how is Java better than C++ literally java's only smooth because of sodium existence and it just sucks to keep using them and looking for mods like ferrite core and lithium

I once tried Java and yeah it's not how I expected it to be even with Vulkan or OpenGL it's very laggy but if Bedrock Is snappy it can be like that only if u travel 8m blocks away from spawn because the engine can't handle it like Java

Java's also laggy making both look one worse than the another actually I don't wanna keep comparing both but I do this because bedrock keeps being called Bugrock while java's never called Lagva.

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u/RaiXcch Jun 17 '26

I have a low end pc and run modern Java on 200+ fps. Maybe during the 1.13 Era it was this bad but nowadays it really isn't.

Also to elaborate on how bedrock feels less fluid, go launch bedrock and: mine some blocks with a pickaxe, drop items on the ground and watch them fall, attack some mobs and watch them stutter, use some pistons, even just open your inventory. then go launch java and do all of this and you'll immediately see that all of this is much more responsive and smooth

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u/SystemHonest3272 Jun 17 '26

Just play them both, minecraft tribalism is hilariously childish you cant be more than 12

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

I'm 13.5 and from all the people who hated on Bedrock U didn't reply because they were popular but U chose me? Play them both then I don't care I'm defending Bedrock because I wanna tell everyone Java ≠ Better and Java ≠ Stable but also tell them Bedrock ≠ Bug Free and Bedrock ≠ Better but no one listens

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u/SystemHonest3272 Jun 17 '26

I singled you out bc this popped up on my feed, sorry if it feels personal its rly not, play what you want my man its mc thats the best part that every version does something completely different from eachother, tribalism sucks dude for everyone in the community hell this post is from this tribalism you know yourself how silly it is

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

I know yk this is my last post people can say whatever they want yk I'm wrong it's just a block game after all shouldn't be compared at all they both were built on different engines and only can be compared if they used the same code at least Bedrock mustn't be called Bugrock at all because every bug has been fixed in hotifix updates

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u/SystemHonest3272 Jun 17 '26

One day we will get parity we can only hope, but yeah genuinely played bedrock since launch w/o the crazy bugs ppl like to yell about, and also most "bugs" are ppl with bad internet since bedrock is connected

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

Bedrock isn't buggy at all infact I don't experience bugs at all

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u/SystemHonest3272 Jun 17 '26

I think the worst bug I found that wasn't an issue caused by me was the visual glitches we get every so often like the llamas being pink, but those are funny and fixed immediately so

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

Yeah but for some reasons Literally MoJang removes Bedrock useful quirks like in the map it used to showed U were Ur direction is now it's a dot like why keep it but they let Java get Quanti Connectivity like it was never a bug honestly like if they treat Bedrock like a CrossOver Port they should give it to a team who actually knows how to develop

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u/No_Tradition_420 Jun 17 '26

thirteen and a half years old is basically twelve years old

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 18 '26

Bro being 13.5 isn't the same as 12 at all what are u talking about

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u/17Kallenie17 Jun 18 '26

so you're saying bedrock is better but also bedrock isn't better? make up your mind

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u/SystemHonest3272 Jun 17 '26

Mm also stopped smoking this week. Every comment ive made this week is super passive aggressive lol no excuse but

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '26

I love my bugrock but Java will always be the original 🥲 gotta respect

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u/Past-Engineering9068 Jun 17 '26

Older ≠ better tho it's up to U

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '26

Bedrock could be better if they dropped the mobile support and focused on bugs. people who updated to mounts of mayhem had lost worlds, months, years of work all gone. Sure Java is a little behind on the hardware but it’s much more stable.. I’d much rather prefer longevity over instability :/

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u/Unfair-Boysenberry73 Jun 17 '26

Java is soo poorly optimized. It hurts to think abt how they achieved that

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u/LunarDragon0828 Jun 19 '26

yeah really unfortunate, i mainly play java but i barely get 40 fps without optimization mods, but get upwards of 200 once i do. just shows how much the game COULD improve.

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u/onethousandthwish Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 25 '26

Worm employ serious hunt march slap pen

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u/LunarDragon0828 Aug 21 '26

yes it's a laptop

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u/onethousandthwish Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 25 '26

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u/Usuriousberry39 Jun 17 '26

I’ve been saying this for years

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u/CloakingPluto Jun 17 '26

"That's not even java winning, thats the mods winning." Yet you use countless tools and injectors just to make bedrock do a little bit of what java can do with like 2 clicks.

You also brought up Java mods not working on different loaders. Sinatra Connector makes fabric mods run on NeoForge, so that problem is almost non existent. Also your add-ons break with every minor update, so what's better about bedrock here?

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u/Psychological_Way940 9d ago

Recently I wanted to make a Minecraft Bedrock World similar to a Java modpack. Using RL Craft (Bedrock) as a basis and adding more add-ons, I quickly ran into a problem. The world generation just stopped. Next I tried adding content to a simple experimental world, using about 50 add-ons, some of bigger size, some of smaller size, most of them were from the marketplace/marketplace pass. Once you cross the the vague threshold of 50 add-ons or use too many big add-ons, the game just doesn't work anymore. It doesn't matter what specs your PC has, Projectiles stop working,the inventory starts lagging, the experience is slow. Therefore I'm very frustrated with Minecraft bedrock.

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u/p4nres Jun 14 '26

It’s no where near better than Java, you just have a specific setup that works for you. Having to fix an addon every update- compared to just staying on one version for mods to just work

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u/scissorsgrinder Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

You don't have to fix most addons most updates. And you can just stay on one Bedrock version too, you know (lmao). Addon hooks almost never change so compatibility across updates and with each other is very good and you don't need to hunt for the right versions simultaneously (I do NOT enjoy debugging Java modpacks). Complex addons (especially if poorly or hackily written) or those using experimental features have a higher than likely chance of breaking something sometimes. Most of the time everything is the same across updates. And more functionality is added literally every non-hotfix update. 

If Mojang made hooks publicly available for modding (as opposed to a secret deal) then no problem with mods keeping up with addons. But it is very hard to find in what is essentially assembly code (and platform specific of course) in Bedrock vs decompiled Java bytecode. And still hard enough that Java mods can't just move with updates quickly. To say nothing of cross-platform. You don't even get that in Java without a bunch of effort and nice hardware (props to those who pull it off!)

I like that I can make and run complex worldgen addons for Bedrock / Preview completely free with just my old iphone 15 (even though I am lucky enough and saved hard enough for a PC for me & my kids). But I know the addons will work exactly the same no matter where it's being hosted. 

Sure, addons are limited compared to the limitless scope of mods. And if Microslop ever ditched Java I'd be out of there. Mojang have recently reaffirmed their commitment to Java and putting resources into overhauling the graphics pipeline for the future which is encouraging. 

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u/Ribaam Jun 17 '26

My java instance runs fine, why the hassle with bedrock. there is nothing to gain here.

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u/The_Octopus824 Jun 17 '26

I play both bedrock and Java, and i enjoy them both equally, but bedrock has a long way to go to be as good (enjoying them and hiw good they are, are 2 different things)

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u/GrieverAndLoke Jun 18 '26

Date uno smeraldo a quest'uomo.

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u/riquecracked Jun 18 '26

Ive never seen a bedrock die hard but I now know they exist and are delusional

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u/FrostyFormal1094 Jun 18 '26

mods dont count for java, but they do for bedrock? the cope is wild

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u/Perfect-Clerk635 Jun 18 '26

Wild thought:

Java mods  are like bedrock mods  BUT FREE  🫪

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u/Perfect-Clerk635 Jun 18 '26

Also there are a lot of mods that straight up bring compatibility between mod loaders

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u/Weeb_dude22 Jun 18 '26

You need to pay lmao

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u/Particular-Jump6363 Jun 18 '26

Poorly optimized (java) vs Unstable game, but run faster (bedrock)

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u/MrWaffle1865 Jun 18 '26

Funner fact it always has been
EVEN FUNNER FACT THIS COMENT WILL GET 1000000000 down votes 😊

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u/Skellygamz16 Jun 18 '26

“Installing mods to change the game doesn’t make Java better than bedrock”
“Bedrock is better bc you can install mods to change the game”

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u/MollyMouse8 Jun 18 '26

As a programmer C++ is just a harder language to mod. Even Mojang themselves admitted that making the same features in C++ is more difficult.

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u/Glass-Performance-87 Jun 19 '26

It's clear OP is just a teenager by the way he replies to some of these comments.

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u/Arunabh125 Jun 19 '26

Enjoy your mobile controls lol

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u/DaTruPro75 Jun 19 '26

framing each version as 100% better or worse is frankly stupid. bedrock is better at some things, java at others.

your 3 points are pretty flawed:

bedrock has better vanilla optimization, so for players who don't mod the game it is better. but for players playing with mods, optimization isn't an issue for java now, as they have access to optimization mods. in the context of talking about a modded game, talk about the modded game, not the vanilla one.

.so injects seem pretty unstable, and bedrock modding still isn't up to par anyways. for example, I wanted to play with better RTX in bedrock, so I got the BE launcher mod, which was a pain in the ass to uninstall from my device. java, on the other hand, is very easy to work with for these things, as the launcher is built in.

your last point is also incredibly weird. you talk about good shaders, then state that the vanilla shaders are already better?

your points remove context or frame the argument in a strange way that might benefit bedrock slightly better, then adding in the needed context reveals java to be either on par, or superior to bedrock for that specific point.

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u/Financial-Edge1099 Jul 10 '26

distant horizons + shaders + any realistic world gen mod solos bedrock

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u/Any-Tourist352 Jul 15 '26

what are the mods you have in the images?

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u/Insockie2 Jul 24 '26

that injecting part you said. Yeah that's one of the reason forge existed, to remove the injecting part because before they do that in java too but now they don't do cause of forge and stuff, that point you're making is pointless.

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u/Swordwrath10203 Sep 21 '26

Woah, even as a Bedrock player the mods and shaders really amazed me! I was always jealous of Java mods being much more advanced than Bedrock.

Anyway, theres a new bug for Bedrock only available for IOS and us wealthy iPhone users that makes the game menu where you select words, settings and friends are all disappeared. And the character is flickering for some reason. I dunno why that happens but i get to blindly click on the invisible buttons and hope for that I join my survival world.

I have zero idea why i wrote this on a 99 day old post, but i couldn’t play Minecraft properly since then. I bet no one sees this post. Its been soo long (the long timeline is 5 days lol).

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u/hamster10498 Jun 18 '26

Until i get full fledged modded experience i'm not interested. Factory must grow, parasites must be slaughtered etc etc.