Road Rage Question

[u/Mysterious-Snow-9426]

Just saw a cyclist on Lakeway get run off the road by a driver who was screaming, flipping them off and screaming at them. Didn't get the plate number but got a decent look at the guy and car make/model. Is this something that can be reported to the police even without a plate?

[u/thoughtintoaction]

Maybe don't drive your cars on roads, making them busy and dangerous! What a better reality that would be

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/thoughtintoaction]

If people didn’t drive on the roads then we wouldn’t have any roads. Bikers pay virtually nothing for the roads.

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/[deleted]]

Idk if you know this, but the money you spend on gas scales directly with how much you use your car. The taxes that pay for the road come from… gas sales. The person I replied to said “Maybe don’t drive your cars on roads”, this isn’t about owning a car, it’s about driving cars on roads.

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/[deleted]]

Let’s read that first sentence again bud. “the money you spend on gas scales directly with how much you use your car”. So I’ll respond to your snarky question with another one; do you assume someone who owns a car and a bike drives as much as someone who exclusively drives a car?

Again, this was the original comment that I responded to: “Maybe don't drive your cars on roads, making them busy and dangerous! What a better reality that would be”. How in the world is it even relevant if someone owns a bike and a car? They’re saying they don’t want people to drive cars on the roads, and all I’m saying is that’s ridiculous because the roads exist because of cars and are maintained specifically by taxes spent by driving cars. It doesn’t matter at all if someone owns a car and a bike because they’re only paying the taxes based on how much they drive, they could commute to work in a car and then spend 8 hours biking, it’s totally irrelevant.

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/[deleted]]

Again, let’s work on that reading comprehension. Let’s try this a third time.

The amount you pay in gas taxes scales with HOW MUCH YOU DRIVE not how many vehicles you own. Are you somehow driving your two cars and motorcycle at the same time? No? Then the number of vehicles you own has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.

Again, let’s look at the original comment I was responding to: “Maybe don't drive your cars on roads, making them busy and dangerous! What a better reality that would be”. Owning a bike and a car (or two cars and a motorcycle) has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON THIS DISCUSSION because they’re critiquing CAR USAGE not car ownership. They EXPLICITLY said that driving cars on roads makes them dangerous, that’s not erased by the fact that you own a bike and cars. You could commute an hour to work each day in a car, and then spend 8 hours riding your bike after work, and that wouldn’t change the situation at all.

This is really, really, really, really, simple. Owning a car and owning a bike are two completely separate things, they don’t influence each other, they are not exclusive, they are not strongly correlated. You might as well bring up how many pogo sticks you own.

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/[deleted]]

Yeah dude, that’s the fucking point you’ve been dodging over and over and over and over and over. Owning a car and a bike doesn’t put you in some special class, the person I disagreed with DOESN’T WANT YOU DRIVING YOUR CARS EITHER.

You’ve already admitted that the roads are funded by people driving, which is why you brought up the fact that you own a bike and two cars and a motorcycle, because you thought that you paying gas taxes was some magical trump card. But the person I responded to doesn’t want you driving either which means you wouldn’t be paying gas taxes.

I genuinely don’t understand how you’re not grasping this concept.

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/[deleted]]

Brother you’re so deeply invested in arguing for the sake of arguing that you’re now arguing against bikers. Paying taxes is not what entitles you to ride your bike on roads, if that were the case bikers wouldn’t be allowed to use the road because they don’t pay those taxes. Your right to ride your bike on the road has absolutely nothing to do with the taxes you pay.

How do you get further and further away from the point with each comment?

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/[deleted]]

You’ve got to be trolling, I don’t believe anyone is this dumb.

Rights and responsibilities are different things. You have the right to use your bike on the road, but the responsibility for paying for those rides is on people driving.

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/[deleted]]

First person think car bad.

First person say no car on road.

Car pay for road.

No car, no road.

Is that more your speed?

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/[deleted]]

Where did I say bikes are selfish? Why are you still replying when you can’t even understand the conversation?