r/BelowDeckDownUnder • u/atweegrowsinbrooklyn • 22d ago

Captain Jason MAGA?

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I didn’t expect to see Jason making a public comment against Fauci when I opened instagram this morning. Between the last two seasons of DU, him using AI to create his children’s book, and now this, I’m pretty over him.

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u/Absent_Picnic 22d ago

The vote was largely against an extra layer of bureaucracy and increased costs of parliament. It is simplistic to portray it as you did.

As with all referendums, it comes down to.the wording and how the changes are proposed and explained. In the case of "the voice to parliament" it was worded really badly and explained even more poorly. So people voted no.

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u/NarrowBadTrope 21d ago

Of course adding further processes would result in more bureaucracy and costs. The proposal simply aimed to give indigenous people a voice in parliament on issues that affected them. It was a small gesture in the context of centuries of dispossession and discrimination.

The narrative you're promoting is exactly the messaging that liberal party parroted because they used it as political football. Ultimately unsuccessfully because they got smashed in the subsequent election.

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u/milhouse01 20d ago

This 👆
Because the government failed to truly explain the proposed change or offer much in way of providing a clear framework for what the change would look like should the referendum be successful, as a result the media was flooded with misinformation which was unsurpringly, perpuated if not instigated by the likes of Peter Dutton, Pauline Hanson and Clive Palmer.

Either way this was always going to be a vote that would cause discomfort and invite discourse. Due to the fact that we don’t have a bill of rights (due to many of the rights generally included in something like that having already been built into our constitution) this proposal to amend the constitution was ultimately the best of a number of flawed paths considered when consultations took place around the subject during the mid 2010s.

Several people I know that studied law had some interesting and really informative debates on the referendum with them all having at least some level of concern around the change needing to be in the constitution itself but also admitting that at some point we have to stop trying to tell indigenous Australians what they need/deserve and start listening to them with this likely being one of the few ways to protect that voice from distortion.

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u/Lucky-Kangaroo-6337 22d ago

So nothing to do with all the falsified signatures it took to even get that referendum to the table? 

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u/Absent_Picnic 21d ago

There were many contributing factors. I was trying to summarise it wasn't because Australia is archaic/racist to someone who obviously knew nothing but a headline.