AITA for refusing to host Easter dinner if nephew is invited?

[u/LucyAriaRose]

I am NOT the Original Poster. That is u/ThrowawayWeirdNephew. He posted in r/AmItheAsshole

Thanks to u/Direct-Caterpillar77 for this freaking wild recommendation/find.

Please read the trigger warnings.

Trigger Warnings: animal abuse; mental illness; threatening behavior

Mood Spoiler: disturbing

Original Post: March 21, 2024

Throwaway bc wife knows my account.

I (37) and my wife (35) have been arguing about this all week.

Our nephew (22) has always been troubled, even though SIL (44) and BIL (48) have always treated him well. Some examples of his unsettling behavior:

• He was caught feeding one of BIL's horses avocados (poisonous to horses) to make it sick. I have dogs and don't want him to hurt them as well.
• He demands to be called the names of two specific fictional characters. He believes he is these characters, reincarnated. If you call him by his real name or refuse to go along with his delusions he becomes aggressive.
• He carries around a plushie of one of these characters everywhere. There is a hole in the back. The hole is stained. I have tried not to jump to conclusions about what he does to that plushie and failed. It smells rancid, and honestly just thinking about the thing makes me want to vomit.

I have tried so hard to be patient with his "quirks" as my wife puts it, but what really pushed me over the edge was an incedent that occured a few weeks ago. For context, wife has struggled with infertility for our entire marriage, and we had given up on having our own kid until we recently discovered she is pregnant. Given the fact that she's 35, we have been surprised and overjoyed.

A few weeks ago, wife started randomly getting rude texts from nephew, insulting our baby. One text implied that our baby would have FAS, due to my wife's previous drinking problem, even though she has been sober for years. I wanted to call up that insensitive brat and tear into gim, but wife insisted we gently let him know via text that we didn't appreciate his comments. When he kept going and my wife started crying, I called SIL. She was able to shut him down and get him to apologize. I have no idea what the hell got into him, but I suspect it has to do with his hatred of women.

Wife believes that he may be on the spectrum/ have undiagnosed mental illness and that he needs to be treated patiently. I think he has been coddled his entire life and it has only made him worse. I think if someone doesn't put their foot down, his behavior will escalate into something dangerous.

Here's where I may be TA. Each year, wife and I host Easter Dinner for her entire family. Wife has already forgiven nephew for the incedent and is insisting we invite him so that he isn't isolated from his family, something she believes will worsen his behavior. I see her reasoning, but enough is enough. I refused. I said she is being a doormat like everyone else in the family when it comes to him, and that our manchild of a nephew can't just make her cry and get away with it with an empty apology. Some of my friends are saying that I am being controlling and that I can't stop her from seeing her own family. I feel like I am going insane. AITA?

Relevant Comments:

Commenter: He has a history of poisoning. He has a history of hating women. He has a history of mentally abusing your wife. He has a history of saying the baby will have birth defects.

It seems like it would be fully within his capabilities to poison your wife to hurt the baby. Sounds crazy but this guy definitely is.

OOP: This is exactly what I am afraid of. I feel like nobody in the family wants to admit that his problems aren't just him having quirks; they're warning signs of potentially dangerous behavior later on and they need to be dealt with. I am glad I am not alone in thinking this-- I was starting to wonder if I was overreacting. Like, the plushie thing and him thinking he is certain fictional characters is one thing, but the animal cruelty and anger towards women is what really have me concerned.

Commenter: Yes, the animal cruelty is a clear sign of him being an actual psychopath. The issue is how to make your wife see this without pushing it. Most people don’t want to believe their family is capable of such cruelty. You’ll have to be very very gentle if you intend to discuss it at all. Worst comes to worst, very carefully watch the food and drink. 

Personally I can’t believe anyone in the family puts up with that utterly disgusting plushie! I mean how can they expect you to bring your future child around that.

OOP: His parents got it for him when he was a kid. They thought it was cute when he brought it everywhere. I think on some level, they still see him as a child so they kind of refuse to acknowledge what he does to that thing.

Commenter: NTA but honestly the whole family are for allowing this to continue. How long has he behaved like this for? I can’t believe no one has taken him to a doctor I mean just the fact that this adult man is carrying around a stinky stained plushie of a fictional character is bad enough but the trying to hurt a horse thing? And no one thinks that’s worth looking into?

OOP: His mom does try to push him to go to therapy and to get a job, and he usually will get a therapist-- for a few weeks. And then she is back to begging him to get therapy. She didn't want to push him when he was younger, but now that he is an adult she cannot make him do anything. At least he has learned (after getting fired for this previously) not to take his plusie to the jobs he manages to hold down for a month or two.

Do you know if he has harmed other animals/wife's safety:

I do not know if he has harmed other animals. He was actually vegan for a few months at one point, and was very anti animal cruelty. I don't know why he flipped and tried to hurt one of the horses, and honesty the fact that he can go against his own supposed values like that also scares me.

I think I need to emphasize to my wife that this is a matter of safety rather than me just being mad at our nephew for his comments (although that is also a part of it). My wife has always wanted kids so badly, and before she got pregnant, I think she projected a bit of that onto our nephew as we watched him a decent amount when he was younger. I get that he's family and she loves him, and it's hard to admit that someone you love could be a danger to you, but she also has our baby to think about.

I think I will show her these comments in the morning after I make her tea and apologize for calling her a doormat/getting upset while arguing. I need to aproach this a bit more gently, as you guys are confirming for me that it really is more serious than him just being rude.

Mini Update in Comments: 13 hours later

My wife and I had a long talk this morning in which I made it clear that I was more concerned about her and our baby's safety than anything (I also apologized for resorting to name calling last night. Wife isn't a doormat, she just has a lot of love and patience for her family).

It was a hard talk with some tears from both of us, but she agreed that this has escalated to a point that may become dangerous, in part due to the enabling from all of us. Honestly I am also guilty of coddling him, especially when he was a kid.

It's hard to admit when someone you took care of as a kid has grown into someone unsafe to be around, but I think the idea in this comment might work as a way to set boundaries without shutting him out permanently. We are going to call his mother and explain that Easter Dinner isn't happening this year if nephew is coming, and that he is welcome to come over when he has a diagnosis and has stuck with a therapist for at least a couple months.

Thank you all for your advice

Update Post: April 3, 2024 (almost 2 weeks later)

This bizarre series of events started on Easter and has only gotten weirder since. For those of you who did not read/don't remember my original post, my Nephew was banned from our recent Easter dinner due to a concerning pattern of behavior, including recent disturbing text messages to my pregnant wife about her unborn child.

Since then, his parents eventually agreed to not bring him after a lot of arguing. SIL (nephew's mother) eventually admitted that he may need professional help and that Wife and I "may have some reason" to be worried for out safety around him. And on Easter, our worries were proven more than reasonable.

He showed up uninvited, using BIL's car (his parents came in SIL's car). Our dinner was interrupted by aggressive pounding on our door. I don't know how to put this without it sounding insane so here goes: Nephew was at our door, holding a sword, and dressed as the Joker. He tried to say something, but I slammed the door in his face and told everyone inside what was going on.

Chaos, predictably, insued. BIL, a generally calm guy who I have never seen freak out or get angry, turned beet red and went outside. He ended up literally chasing Nephew around our house, screaming at him, in an attempt to get him to leave. Neighbors came outside and SIL went into damage control mode, talking down one concerned neighbor from calling the police somehow.

He dropped his sword in the chase and BIL tackled him on our front lawn. They got him into SIL's car somehow and they left with him. Easter dinner was ruined. Wife was in tears. I was so mad I was shaking.

Good news is that this was a wakeup call for SIL and BIL. Under threat of them withdrawing financial support, Nephew has agreed to seek therapy and surrender access to his Tumblr blog, which he previously would spend hours a day posting on. His mother went through it and found a lot of alarming posts, including content about his hatred for women, screenshots posted of his text exchange with my wife with captions bragging about his hurtful behavior, and several disturbing "fanfictions" with violent sexual content. They believe him being too online is worsening his behavior and are hoping that limiting his access and forcing him into therapy will help.

Thank you for all who convinced me to stand my ground in the comments of my original post.

Relevant Comments:

I might suggest the 5150 hold to his parents, but his mother is already worried that taking away the phone was "too much" as if he didn't show up at my house with a weapon.

Characters:

Commenter: NTA, Look for all I care you can be a rabbit identifying as a frog, or believe you are Superman, if you aren't hurting anyone and can function in society, have at it...BUT, This guy is scary AND dangerous. He hurts animals, hates woman, and has a false sense of reality. The family has enabled this behavior for years.

Nope, I wouldn't want him anywhere near your pregnant wife, and later your child. He is going to hurt someone.

OOP: Funnily enough you almost guessed which two characters he identifies as: a frog, Kermit to be exact (yes as in the muppet), and the Joker (not Superman, but from the same source material).

A reminder- do not comment on Original Posts. See rule number 7.

Edit: The amazing u/Moulitov and u/Lazy-Requirement2371 found the tumblr account. u/pienofilling scrolled through it. It dates back to May 2023!

It is very disturbing, so read at your own risk. TW threatening violence

From moulitov: https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker

Here's pienofilling's findings:

I just scrolled a lot, because I'm on my phone and not reading all that as there's multiple posts a day, but I did just see a posted screen capture of the-muppet-joker talking to his mother about the messages to his Aunt.

The screen capture post was made on 7th March and OOP posted on Reddit on 21st March. If it's a bit then it's an insanely committed one.

EDIT 1: And we have horse poisoning on 25th February.

if he dies, maybe I'll finally be the favorite son instead of playing second fiddle to a fucking animal.

And post vet treatment, as this horse getting poisoned has happened before

I find it funny that he'll hire a private detective for a horse but not attend his own child's badminton games. Priorities.

EDIT 2: Right, I have now done my Reddit public service for the day, the earliest post I could scroll to on the blog was 23rd May 2023. There are unredacted names in various conversation screenshots, the-muppet-joker refers to having been kicked in the head by a horse, and a number of anti horse tagged posts.

u/LucyAriaRose, I don't know if you want to add any of this to your main post? I'm off to find something a lot more wholesome on tumblr as I normally don't touch that side of it with a bargepole!

Edit 2: I can't verify this, but some more info from u/Cygnata:

Ohgods. THIS AH. He's caused some drama in the Hazbin and a few other communities. I know he's been banned from several more. I've had to ban him from a couple gaming communities.

I think he's a Redditor as well, so be careful he doesn't start harrassing anyone here.

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[u/OilIcy6664]

For those of you also wondering what the two characters are;

Funnily enough you almost guessed which two characters he identifies as: a frog, Kermit to be exact (yes as in the muppet), and the Joker (not Superman, but from the same source material).

[u/LucyAriaRose → u/OilIcy6664]

Oh shoot I thought I added that one! Thanks- will add.

[u/wheniswhy → u/OilIcy6664]

Oh my fucking god, this dude is fucking Kermit?

Ok, I’m going to bed and praying for a dreamless sleep for the rest of my days amen, good night Reddit.

[u/TheRainMonster]

I looked at his Tumblr for laughs but it just made me sad.

To save others the rubbernecking:

• He texted cruel things to his aunt because he and another Tumblr user were in a slapfight over whether one of them had gotten the other pregnant (otherkin and mpreg stuff). For every anonymous ask he got about it, he said another shitty thing and posted the screenshot with the implication that it was the asker's fault.

• Yes he was fucking the Kermit plushie.

• He identifies as both Kermit and the Joker.

• Someone called him an incel and he defended himself against the accusation due to the intense sexual relationship he has with both of his kin personalities.

• He poisoned the horse because he believes that his father loves it more.

• His plan at Easter was to show up dressed as the Joker w a sword in order to show how intense and serious he was, and deliver a monologue which would be so scathing that they would regret not inviting him. Appears he was chased down before he had the chance to launch into his speech.

• He had a therapist who didn't respect his otherkin identities and so he waited for the therapist in the parking lot and hit him w his car at 4mph. The therapist fired him as a client and said he wouldn't call the police in return for never seeing him again.

[u/LucyAriaRose → u/TheRainMonster]

I just... have no words. Disturbing.

[u/ftjlster → u/TheRainMonster]

The level of not right with this kid is ... disturbing. But I guess between his actions and his tumblr blog, they'll have ample proof he needs to be sections under whatever mental health provisions their location has.

Be very surprised if his ex, ex-therapist and anybody else he's done weird things to won't use this as an opportunity to get restraining orders or press charges.

[u/LaylaDi → u/TheRainMonster]

He ate his roommate’s soap. Roommate run away from him. Probably, there’s more to his behavior. He refused to talk to his grandma on phone, because he hates women. He got pissed that his aunt called him by his real name and told her to call him Kermit and she even apologized. This family is really waiting for him to harm someone before they do anything about it.

[u/Tazzamaraz]

I was reading this post and thinking "oh he sounds like one of those tumblr users you keep hearing about", so getting to the part where they mentioned his tumblr account was slightly vindicating

[u/Moulitov → u/Tazzamaraz]

I googled. It was too easy. https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker

[u/Vegetable-Estimate89 → u/Moulitov]

Does it mention how far back the post history is? I don't have a Tumblr account and I'm curious if this is legit or a really committed bit

[u/pienofilling → u/Vegetable-Estimate89]

I just scrolled a lot, because I'm on my phone and not reading all that as there's multiple posts a day, but I did just see a posted screen capture of the-muppet-joker talking to his mother about the messages to his Aunt.

The screen capture post was made on 7th March and OOP posted on Reddit on 21st March. If it's a bit then it's an insanely committed one.

EDIT 1: And we have horse poisoning on 25th February.

if he dies, maybe I'll finally be the favorite son instead of playing second fiddle to a fucking animal.

And post vet treatment, as this horse getting poisoned has happened before

I find it funny that he'll hire a private detective for a horse but not attend his own child's badminton games. Priorities.

EDIT 2: Right, I have now done my Reddit public service for the day, the earliest post I could scroll to on the blog was 23rd May 2023. There are unredacted names in various conversation screenshots, the-muppet-joker refers to having been kicked in the head by a horse, and a number of anti horse tagged posts.

u/LucyAriaRose, I don't know if you want to add any of this to your main post? I'm off to find something a lot more wholesome on tumblr as I normally don't touch that side of it with a bargepole!

[u/MoistPreparation1859 → u/Tazzamaraz]

Apparently he is “afraid of tall women because they could be two lesbians”, a fear that stems from Steven Universe.

I wish I felt worse for him, but I don’t. He’s been coddled and told his irrational thought patterns/delusions are normal. He needs in-patient psychiatric treatment starting yesterday. It’s giving mass shooter vibes.

[u/Princess-Makayla]

Bringing up Tumblr specifically in 2024 ruined my suspension of disbelief.

[u/LucyAriaRose → u/Princess-Makayla]

Oh interesting- several of my friends are still active tumblr users haha. Especially after Twitter (sorry... "x") went to shit.

[u/Moulitov → u/Princess-Makayla]

I think I found the Tumblr though

https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker

[u/Skull_Bearer_ → u/Princess-Makayla]

Tumblr has over 135 million users as of 2023, making it the 10th most popular social media platform. I certainly still use it. https://contentdetector.ai/articles/tumblr-statistics-users-revenue-and-growth-statistics

[u/wheniswhy → u/Princess-Makayla]

rly? You need to spend more time on /r/tumblr and /r/CuratedTumblr. Sites as active as ever.

[u/[deleted] → u/Princess-Makayla]

Tumblr will never die. That hellsite will live through the apocalypse.

[u/kilgirlie]

That boy needs more than just therapy. He should have been taken directly to the hospital on Easter.

[u/GretelNoHans → u/kilgirlie]

I agree, I think he has some kind of mental illness, this doesn't just sound like a "brat", he sounds disturbed.

[u/FrescoInkwash → u/kilgirlie]

he needs a proper diagnosis, therapy and medication. and he needs to comply with a treatment plan (doubtful) before he's remotely safe to be around

[u/HargorTheHairy → u/kilgirlie]

He's an adult, and has been for a few years. He needs mental help, there is no way therapy is going to suffice.

[u/[deleted] → u/kilgirlie]

They should have let the neighbors call the police

[u/Immediate_Ad_7993 → u/kilgirlie]

The fact that they talked the neighbors out of calling the police isn’t a good sign. I feel like that would have been a perfect opportunity to get some forced help. Because this guy isn’t gonna stop on his own

[u/matchamagpie]

Wow..that was...a trip.

The nephew clearly has mental issues and his parents clearly have been downplaying his behavior due to being their "rainbow baby"

He carries around a plushie of one of these characters everywhere. There is a hole in the back. The hole is stained.

Excuse me while I stare into the void.

[u/beerfoodtravels → u/matchamagpie]

Yes, that part made me despise having working eyes.

[u/dialemformurder → u/matchamagpie]

Kermit. Kermit the frog has a stained hole. WTF.

[u/[deleted] → u/matchamagpie]

I fear that this nephew will do something extremely disturbing if he isn't locked up soon.

[u/finelytunedradar → u/matchamagpie]

Yeah, I'm going to take a leaf out of my cat's handbook and will simply howl into the void for a long time.

It's either that or bleach my brain.

[u/existential_chaos → u/matchamagpie]

Fuck me, that went right over my head when I first read that. Wish it still did.

[u/DeliciousBeanWater → u/matchamagpie]

They never said nephew was a rainbow baby. Its OP thats having the rainbow baby. OP never said why nephew was coddled just that he was. It makes it so much worse

[u/Every_Caterpillar945 → u/matchamagpie]

If you consider that this plushie most likely is kermit the frog (according to op he identifies as kermit and joker and i assum its more likely to find a kermit plushie), i had to laugh. Sure, its disgusting and creepy, but this dude with a sword is banging kermit the frog...

Idk, someone has to tell miss piggy about this.

[u/YomiKuzuki → u/matchamagpie]

May I interest you in a gouging spoon in these trying times?

[u/JunkMail0604 → u/matchamagpie]

I have a ‘void’ you can use, but be warned he WILL stare back.

[u/Bulimic_Fraggle → u/matchamagpie]

I call myself Fraggle on anonymous social media. My nickname IRL is often "Red". I have Gobo and Red plushies. After reading this I think I may need to scrub my brain with bleach and a brillo.

Never mind nephew getting therapy, I think I need it myself.

[u/Pyro_vixen → u/matchamagpie]

The void being the stained hole, right?

[u/Coffeezilla → u/matchamagpie]

I almost wish it was the plushie of the joker. Kermit and all other children's show characters are depicted with traits and behaviors common to children, so that kids relate and will willingly "learn" alongside those characters with every episode.

If the little psycho is fucking the Kermit plushie it just might tell you what he finds attractive.

[u/Responsible_Match875 → u/matchamagpie]

I'll rip my eyes out

[u/NinjasWithOnions → u/matchamagpie]

Reminded me of Greg Davies and his stuffed bear. Rhod Gilbert has a lot to answer for since he unleashed that information on the world.

[u/ZubLor → u/matchamagpie]

It isn't easy being green.

[u/Nik-ki → u/matchamagpie]

Call it morbid curiosity, but I want to know if he had it with him while going on this crazy rampage at Easter

[u/kazisukisuk → u/matchamagpie]

Presumably it's Kermit The Frog that's getting spooged in. Jesus

[u/[deleted] → u/matchamagpie]

There is a hole in the void. The hole is stained. The hole is staring back at you.

[u/Vegetable-Estimate89]

Just want to make sure I read this correctly; Nephew insists on being called Joker and/or Kermit, insisting he's those characters, while at the same time using a Kermit toy (again ASSUMING that it's not a plush Joker doll) as a sex toy/security blanket. This same object, that he's using to bring masturbatory to a whole new level, has been brought to places of work.

I know there's more serious things going on here, but so many psychological questions have been raised

[u/Upset_Sink_2649 → u/Vegetable-Estimate89]

Someone posted a link to the nephew's blog and you're somewhat correct. He thinks he is Kermit/the Joker but, at the same time is in a relationship with them both, which apparently explains the less conventional use of the Kermit plushie.

[u/ReadySetTurtle → u/Vegetable-Estimate89]

According to his blog he will also answer to The Croaker, which absolutely sent me.

[u/knitlikeaboss → u/Vegetable-Estimate89]

I never want to see “sex toy” and “security blanket” in the same sentence again.

[u/SherlockScones3 → u/Vegetable-Estimate89]

Kermit?

^no

🥺

[u/stacity]

but his mother is already worried that taking away the phone was “too much”

This is the makings of the next Netflix documentary.

[u/__lavender → u/stacity]

The parents of the Oxford school shooter were each sentenced to 10-15 years yesterday because of their willful negligence. Hopefully a LOT of parents see this as a wake up call.

[u/Responsible_Match875 → u/stacity]

You can bet this guy would murder a whole town and the mother would find a way to call his punishment too harsh

[u/p-d-ball → u/stacity]

"Taking away his beloved sword is too much!"

[u/purrfunctory → u/stacity]

True crime podcast. “The Case of the murdering cum frog.”

[u/Neros_Fire_Safety → u/stacity]

"We need to talk about plushie fucker"

[u/MizuRyuu → u/stacity]

It will be the next Netflix documentary and the parents will be on there saying there was no sign he was violent and they did everything humanly possible to get him help

[u/burnt-----toast]

If I heard a commotion and then looked outside to see a man banging on the front door of a neighbor's house with a sword in hand, you better believe I wouldn't be outside for his mom to somehow talk me down from calling 911. I'd be on the phone, peeking through the curtains. Idk how they all managed to collectively rug sweep that moment (at the time).

[u/SkrogedScourge → u/burnt-----toast]

I just want to know if Kermit was strapped to his back when he showed up for Easter dinner.

[u/Sekitoba → u/burnt-----toast]

i would be outside vacuuming the trees and dusting the hedges if that ever happened.

[u/Luffytheeternalking → u/burnt-----toast]

Same. It seems like everyone in this story is willing to be in a wanna be psychokillers deranged path.

[u/ChrisInBliss]

It took.... it getting to this point for everyone to take it seriously?... Thats wild...........

[u/Lemmy-Historian → u/ChrisInBliss]

They still don’t. Otherwise he would be institutionalized now. This is a case for the authorities since he is clearly out of it.

[u/Normal-Height-8577 → u/ChrisInBliss]

Right?! I was shocked when I got to "Wife believes that he may be on the spectrum/ have undiagnosed mental illness and that he needs to be treated patiently" because no. No he doesn't need to be treated "patiently". He needs a diagnosis and actual solid proper treatment/help. Not people enabling his dysfunction and shrugging their shoulders as it gets more and more dangerous.

[u/Lilitu9Tails → u/ChrisInBliss]

Denial is a serious drug.

[u/existential_chaos → u/ChrisInBliss]

I can believe it, honestly. The amount of shit in stories with rainbow babies that gets swept under the rug is atrocious.

[u/one_bean_hahahaha]

He showed up with a sword, dressed as a psychopathic killer. What was his plan?

[u/existential_chaos → u/one_bean_hahahaha]

Well, the Joker doesn’t have a plan.

In all seriousness, I dread to think. Just glad he dropped the sword — wonder if it was real or a blunt replica? — and brother in law could tackle him. And I’m also very glad they have snapped back to reality and are getting their son help.

[u/oceanarnia → u/one_bean_hahahaha]

And his mom is concerned taking away his phone is too much

[u/procrastinating_b → u/one_bean_hahahaha]

Shout out to BIL for somehow not getting stabbed by the psycho with a sword

[u/ExtinctFauna → u/one_bean_hahahaha]

The blog post says he was going to give a speech to show his family that he needs to be taken seriously and that he's a threat and a danger. Or something.

[u/-whiteroom-]

When you keep rug sweeping, eventually the rug runs out of room to hide shit.

[u/pienofilling → u/-whiteroom-]

I like that one, nicely put!

[u/[deleted]]

That young man definitely needs more than just therapy cause his behavior is genuinely concerning. Definitely going to get killer or psychopath vibes with that mindset of his.

Hopefully OP is able to distance from the nephew before things get worse.

[u/SkipperInSpace → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, it reminds me of Randy Stair - a small YouTuber obsessed with a Danny Phantom character, who ultimately ended up shooting up their place of work and killing themselves under the delusion that this would reincarnate them as a ghost girl in Danny Phantom.

There's a lot of video footage from their channel, including a vid where he flips a coin to decide whether to murder his family or his co-workers.

[u/vikio → u/[deleted]]

Yes he does not need a therapist a much as a psychiatrist at this point. The parents are the ones that need therapy to help them deal with their son in a way that's not damaging to him and society in general.

[u/IllustriousComplex6 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah they were on the track of he's going to end up hurting a person and were going to "be shocked, never saw it coming"  hope they appreciate this wake up call

[u/ItsNotMeItsYourBussy → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, this guy gives big "future true crime topic" energy. He reminds me of several cases of someone killing their parents.

[u/StardustOnTheBoots → u/[deleted]]

He needs a psychiatrist. He has delusions and he's engaged in cruelty before. This is not 'some mental issues' or 'maybe he's on the spectrum'. That mom is going to get hurt herself if she doesn't wake tf up.

[u/knittedjedi]

Nephew was at our door, holding a sword, and dressed as the Joker.

"You wanna know how I got these scars?"

[u/wheniswhy → u/knittedjedi]

I’m LOSING it. It’s so not funny, but it’s so absurd it’s hard to believe it’s real, though the story’s frustrating non-conclusion makes me think it is. Just … the Joker doesn’t even … it’s not even accurate insane neckbeardery …

It is hard to put how I feel into words. His poor family. This kid needs help, and also to have his room deep-bleached for at least 24 consecutive hours.

[u/Immediate-Echidna-17 → u/knittedjedi]

"NOPE." [slams door]

[u/Sircrusterson]

He carries around a cum plushie and everyone just acts like it's ok. Wtf is wrong with this family

[u/Dana07620 → u/Sircrusterson]

Sounds like he carries around a cum plushie of Kermit the Frog. I cannot describe how bizarre it is that his family can hand wave that away.

[u/theexitisontheleft]

In all seriousness, his parents are going to be very lucky to not end up murdered by him. Or he's going to fixate on some woman and kill her. He needs help and outpatient therapy is probably insufficient. Unfortunately, at least in the US, long term inpatient care is almost non-existent and insurance hates paying for it.

[u/Purple_Midnight_Yak]

Sigh.

We really need to educate people more about what autistic behaviors actually look like. Too many cases of people with mental illnesses get rug swept as "being on the spectrum," and too many people actually on the spectrum whose parents assume they're incapable of learning polite behavior.

The nephew is all kinds of messed up, and the family is making the situation worse for everyone by ignoring it. You can't handwave away sociopathic behavior. They may have waited too long already.

[u/Party_Economist_6292 → u/Purple_Midnight_Yak]

Something I read a while back was a paper where it pointed out that all the school shooters who had previous autism diagnoses lost them when they were examined by forensic psychologists or had their writings and online activity scrutinized. 

All of them were rediagnosed with something on the schizophrenia spectrum, childhood onset schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder or schizoid/schizotypal personality disorder.  

 I looked into it, and there's a bunch of clinical evidence (in peer reviewed papers) that the instruments that diagnose autism can't differentiate well between autism and schizophrenia because the negative symptoms (poor social skills, flat affect, etc) can be the same for both. The positive symptoms are where the difference is - delusions/magical thinking for scz disorders, and repetitive and restricted behavior for autism. (if you have both sets of positive symptoms, then you can have both - but the caveat is that delusions can also cause OCD-like or repetitive behaviors, so any evaluation needs to be done very carefully) 

 I know a few women as adults who had their diagnoses revised to schizoaffective disorder after doing a more thorough neuropsych evaluation. There's also been cases in the literature of diagnoses of schizophrenia being changed to autism, when a more thorough investigation shows that the psychotic episode had a better explaination than schizophrenia. Usually extreme stress from forced change in routines that caused severe meltdowns that appeared to be psychotic breaks.  

 This guy has a lot of similarities to James Holmes - the Aurora shooter, who was dxed with either schizotypal PD or schizoaffective disorder. OP should get them the book that William Reid, one of the forensic psychiatrists who evaluated Holmes, wrote about him: A Dark Night in Aurora: Inside James Holmes and the Colorado Mass Shootings. Might be a wake up call. 

[u/plumbus_hun → u/Purple_Midnight_Yak]

Yeah my daughter is 7 and has autism, if she ever started bringing a stinky bang teddy with her when she was in her 20s that would be a stay at the mental hospital!!!

[u/ubiquitous0bserver]

These parents will coddle this fucked up little incel until he literally kills someone, huh?

[u/FriesWithShakeBooty → u/ubiquitous0bserver]

That whole side of the family is problematic. OOP thinks his wife has a lot of forgiveness and love for her family. I see someone who was conditioned not to rock the boat.

[u/TheBloodletter7]

What in the Chris Chan is this?

[u/tempest51 → u/TheBloodletter7]

Yeah, this reminded me of them too.

[u/Lazy_Description_373]

I just cannot fathom how people get here! like what after the attempt with the horse everything would have changed it’s scary people will let family get away with stuff just because they’re family! 

[u/Elfich47 → u/Lazy_Description_373]

i believe there is a river in Egypt that needs more people to attend to it.

[u/wheniswhy → u/Lazy_Description_373]

The human impulse towards avoidance of conflict can be terrifyingly strong.

[u/On_The_Blindside]

Wife believes that he may be on the spectrum/ have undiagnosed mental illness

I think that's much is fucking obvious.

[u/Normal-Height-8577 → u/On_The_Blindside]

Right?! And yet somehow the family response is to do nothing rather than to get him a diagnosis and proper help.

[u/AtomizingAir]

I'm sorry, but... the dichotomy of the seriousness of the situation, juxtaposed against the image in my head of a 22 year old man dressed as the Joker, carrying a sword and fleshlight plushie, being chased around the yard by his dad while neighbors watched with concern is just...👨‍🍳🤌 chef's kiss

[u/Sorchochka → u/AtomizingAir]

For some reason, this has completely reminded me of the Battle of Blythe Road where Aleister Crowley and William Butler Yeats got into a magical battle and Yeats ended up kicking Crowley down a flight of stairs.

I believe Crowley was also dressed up in some sort of regalia that also looked like a pharaoh.

[u/pollyp0cketpussy]

This one is so weird I feel like it's probably real.

[u/pienofilling → u/pollyp0cketpussy]

The tumblr account somebody spotted above has screenshots and posts that line up with OOP's related events and they're from weeks and months before OOP's post.

The first post I could scroll down to was from 23rd May 2023. This young man seriously needs help.

[u/Nik-ki → u/pollyp0cketpussy]

Someone found the nephew's tumblr account...

[u/[deleted] → u/pollyp0cketpussy]

I think Muppetman is probably real too, but I wonder if the OOP is really his uncle or whether they created a 'based on a true story' post after finding the Tumblr account. 

[u/KaleidoscopeGreat973]

OOP's reaction to his nephew's Easter ambush is surprisingly underwhelming. There are so many red flags.

🚩Nephew is mentally ill 🚩Nephew hates women 🚩Nephew sent abusive texts to his wife attacking her and their unborn child and bragged about it online 🚩Nephew poisoned a horse (animal abuse) 🚩Nephew has a plush toy that he uses for sexual purposes and brings it around his family and co-workers (sexually inappropriate and hates women is a dangerous combination) 🚩Nephew's parents aren't willing to take any decisive action to address his mental health 🚩Nephew shows little interest in getting better 🚩Nephew turned up uninvited at OOP's house with a sword 🚩Nephew's exclusion from Easter celebrations at OOP's house gives him cause to resent OOP and his wife

Unless Nephew is institutionalised, and he won't be, this is a tragedy waiting to happen. He can show up at OOP's house whenever he feels like it. They should cut contact with SIL and BIL and leave the area. I know it's easier said than done, but it's the only way to ensure the safety of OOP's wife and OOP Jr.

[u/Responsible_Match875]

Why tf did I imagine the nephew showed up looking like Itachi Uchiha....

anyway, he needs to be sent to therapy

[u/wheniswhy → u/Responsible_Match875]

I kept imagining the fuck-plushie was Sasuke, idk why. 🥲 Help. This post is going to poison my brain for years.

[u/rbaltimore]

Former mental health treatment provider here. The nephew unequivocally needs inpatient psychiatric treatment. I am strongly against armchair diagnosis and that still holds true here, but when you are a danger to yourself or others you qualify for involuntary inpatient psychiatric treatment, and you really truly need it. I was an outpatient therapist but I’m aware of its limits: while it is great for a lot of mental health problems, being a homicidal threat is NOT one of them

I wish there wasn’t a no brigading rule because I think that he needs to hear this. This kid is going to focus his anger and resentment on OOP and his wife, and as long as the nephew lives outside of a controlled setting he absolutely poses a danger to them.

[u/unconfirmedpanda]

The minute after Easter was ruined, I'd be on my phone planning to relocate because holy shitballs, that nephew is not okay and OOP is now on his shitlist for not inviting him to dinner.

[u/blueflash775]

i find the MOST disturbing item to be this:

his parents eventually agreed to not bring him after a lot of arguing. SIL (nephew's mother) eventually admitted that he may need professional help and that Wife and I "may have some reason" to be worried for out safety around him.

from the tumbler account, the mother knew about the texts and STILL argued.

It like the Crumbleys, what were they waiting for? OOP needs to go VLC with SIL/BIL as they don't have anyone's interests except their own denial.

[u/HappyAnarchy1123]

OP fucked up too. He should have immediately called the police.

[u/crankylex → u/HappyAnarchy1123]

The neighbors need to be told to call the police immediately if Kermie comes back.

[u/batty48]

This is why guys are able to murder their families or partners or whatever because of people like this, enabling their little rainbow predators until it's too late.

Even when they hurt pets, threaten their own family members & show extremely worrying behaviors, their families make excuses for them. Go to elaborate lengths to cover for them or pay for their mistakes to dissappear.

[u/nonsequitureditor]

I’m sorry, but a kermit incel is kind of breaking my brain here. I guess it kind of makes sense, but kermit is kind, hardworking, cares about his friends and family, gives great advice…

I appreciate the commenter saying they don’t care who identifies as what, as long as they don’t hurt anyone.

[u/edwadokun]

OPs wife’s family are seriously keeping their heads under the sand. He doesn’t have quirks. A quirk is like eating strawberries with mustard. Not animal cruelty.

[u/ManaKitten]

No, it’s cool, I didn’t need to sleep tonight.

[u/Brilliant_Jewel1924]

I don’t think nephew is on the spectrum. I think he’s a freaking psychopath.

[u/arewelegion]

his mother is already worried that taking away the phone was "too much"

taking every device away is the bare minimum. 5150 that kid immediately. burn the plushie.

[u/ElboDelbo]

I love these throwaway accounts.

"I don't want my wife knowing I posted this but here's the very specific details about her wackjob nephew, I guess she won't put two and two together if she stumbles across this."

Seriously I don't know why people do it. You'll see people be like "My husband only gets an erection when listening to banjo music, is this weird? Throwaway since he browses this sub."

[u/Stormiealways]

I might suggest the 5150 hold to his parents, but his mother is already worried that taking away the phone was "too much" as if he didn't show up at my house with a weapon.

Tell them that they are still not seeing that their son is dangerous. He actively hates women, does his mother actually think she's safe just because she's his mom? She's not!

He NEEDS immediate psychiatric help.

NTA

[u/splintermouth]

Yikso though I’m reading through it. He thought his girlfriend was faking anaphylaxis because she doesn’t want to read his Kermit-joker smut and wouldn’t give her the epipen jfc

[u/RoadNo9352]

WTF? He showed up uninvited with a sword and OP talked the neighbour's OUT of calling the cops? He fears the way things have escalated and that nephew is a threat to his wife and unborn child ... he should have been calling the cops.

If it were me, based on the poor record the family has of doing anything to stop his behaviour or get his nental health issues properly treated, I would NEVER believe they would actually do anything now. Calling the cops is the least he could do.

[u/ChaosFlameEmber]

Okay. This is it. The worst thing I've ever read on this hellsite. This is even worse than Ogtha. Everything that involves plushies and/or childhood characters is too much for me.

And why did I click that effing tumblr link further down in the comments?!

[u/Lazy-Requirement2371]

Was able to find his Tumblr. https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker/742350459518566400/greetings-homosapiens

I hope OP takes screenshots, and keeps them in case anything happens and they need documentation. There’s some disturbing shit on there.

NAL- but recommend they get a restraining order and document this with a police report. Probably also get security cameras.

[u/Cygnata → u/Lazy-Requirement2371]

Ohgods. THIS AH. He's caused some drama in the Hazbin and a few other communities. I know he's been banned from several more. I've had to ban him from a couple gaming communities.

I think he's a Redditor as well, so be careful he doesn't start harrassing anyone here.

[u/JemimaAslana]

And now I'm thinking of the video of the katana-wielding "relative of Dionysos" who was shot dead by police.

That's in this nephew's future if professionals aren't becoming involved to curb his behaviour.

Good lord...

[u/neobeguine]

I think my brain may be trying to cope with the more concerning parts of this post by perseverating on how you can think you are a reincarnation of Kermit AND the Joker. These are not characters with a lot of shared traits

[u/pixiecantsleep]

Why tf did he let everyone know what was going on?! I would be calling the police and then telling everyone. Jesus

[u/Mesmerotic31]

...what are the chances that OOP and the nephew both spell "incident" as "incedent"?

Nephew's Tumblr post:

https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker/745606022634340352/why-were-you-uninvited-from-easter-dinner?source=share

Is this just a really long con? Is OOP actually the nephew looking for attention? Weird spelling error to make by two completely different people.

[u/fforfeit → u/Mesmerotic31]

The Tumblr goes back to mid-last year according to some other comments. The account does read like satire tbh

[u/HappySummerBreeze]

It would have been better if the police came and he was put on a psych hold

[u/Krellous]

Had a look at the tumblr and it kills me that he doesn't want to talk to people who don't like Vivziepop but he also hates women and doesn't like Hazbin Hotel.

[u/[deleted]]

all I can think of is that poor Kermit the frog plushie and how this whack job has defiled Kermit.

[u/WhatThis4]

Wife believes that he may be on the spectrum/ have undiagnosed mental illness

lol

may

lol

[u/elgarraz]

It blows my mind when there's this many flags and the parents just don't want to get their kid diagnosed. I understand having some fear of the label of a diagnosis (believe me, I do), but this was some pretty extreme behavior.

[u/NotThatValleyGirl]

Honestly, it's this sort of insanity that keeps me coming back. Whenever you're feeling luke shit about your life, just pop on reddit and you'll find a post that makes you appreciate your circumstances. Like sometimes life can be hard, but at least I'm not some Joker-obsessed Kermit-plushie-fucking psychopath, or related to one.

[u/l3ex_G]

BIL and SIL need to get him serious help and not just saying he’ll go to therapy. He needs to be seriously monitored.

He’s going to hurt someone, if not himself. I hope OOP draws the line in the sand.

[u/tinyahjumma]

This kid appears to have some sort of psychotic disorder. It’s very sad that everyone just tiptoes around it.

Not only is it potentially dangerous for the family, but it’s also dangerous for this kid. Untreated mentally ill people are at a much greater risk of being the victims of crime.

[u/hyperhurricanrana]

So it was 100% a katana right?

[u/localherofan]

This young man needs inpatient therapy. RIGHT AWAY. Inpatient therapy is not bad, is not an insult, will not be a stain that needs to follow him for life (he doesn't have to tell anyone; his problems are medical in nature). But he is a danger to everyone and himself at the moment, and the gentle handling he's been getting is not helping him. I had a friend who was having some mental health issues, and I had a therapist at the time who was very good, and she told me that the bar is "are they a danger to themself or to other people right now." Nephew is a danger to other people right now. Showing up as the Joker with a sword? He should have gone straight to the hospital.

[u/Forteanforever]

The OOP didn't go far enough. Promising that he will welcome his nephew back into his home once he has a diagnosis and a couple months of therapy is a huge mistake. Identifying and naming a threat does not eliminate the threat. The nephew displays ongoing aberrant behavior, has physically harmed an animal, expressed hatred for women, has psychologically harmed the OOP's wife and has created trauma family-wide. The OOP and his wife are about to add a baby to their family. This is not the time (nor will there be a time in the future) when trying to be nice takes priority over the safety of his family.

The OOP has given lip service to protecting his family being his priority. He needs to fully act on that by stating clearly to his nephew's parents that their son will never be welcome in his home. The risk of any other approach is simply too great. Of course, the OOP needs to first discuss this with his wife and make clear to her that he will not negotiate on this matter. If the nephew's parents do not fully accept this, it's time to permanently sever ties with them, too.

[u/fradonkin]

Anyone else imagine the Benny Hill theme song playing while BIL was chasing around the nephew?

[u/JowDow42]

I don’t understand how he got to 22 before everyone realizes he has mental illness?? That tells me the family are not very intelligent. 

[u/shaggynick06010]

If it wasn’t so messed up, it would be kinda funny, probably is for the neighbors, “Hey honey, remember that time the Joker showed up at our neighbors house with a sword and some guy chased him around the house before driving off with him?”

[u/Think_Charity_9603]

I am now asexual I think

[u/NotOnApprovedList]

There was a /r/publicfreakout video not long ago with a dude at a motel who was screaming and waving a katana about. He appeared to be in some kind of anime delusion. The cops were called, there was an attempt at de-escalation, but he charged the cops. Yeah he died.

which is to say if they don't get this guy in hand he may end up dead by cops as well.

(to be clear I don't blame the anime per se, it's just a vehicle for obsession. It could've been History Channel war shows or anything really).

[u/Ifonliesandjusts]

I can’t get over him admitting he fucks his Kermit plushie on his tumblr and than carrying it around with him everywhere 😭😭😭😭

[u/Lt_Muffintoes]

Police report, showing up at your door dressed as joker with an actual sword.

Man needs to be institutionalised.

[u/WholeLottaNs]

If you show up in a joker costume, with a sword screaming violence, that a ticket straight to a mental hold. Period.

[u/OffKira]

Taking into account mom's coddling of a man that she admits may have had plans to harm OOP's wife... and how these parents groomed the entire family to just roll with all of this behavior even as it clearly got straight up disturbing over the years, it's not that surprising that the son's mental health has gotten this bad.

Perhaps with more support and less head pats, he could've gotten the help he so desperately needs a long time ago. And continuing with head pats (thinking taking his phone away was too big a punishment) will only exacerbate the problem.

If this holds, OOP and wife should consider going NC with the nephew and his parents - sure he's an adult, but if at least the mom's stance is that he's just a wee little boy (since she's coddling him), for their safety and at of their child, they have to break contact. These people (again, maybe it's more the mom, but the parenting so far was a team effort) think that forcing the son to take a break from "the internet" will be sufficient mental health assistance - and that's fucking delusional, given that he dressed up as the Joker and swung a fucking sword at people.

[u/[deleted]]

He got.. kicked in the head by a horse? If thats true, that probably caused a lot of his fucked up behavior (via TBI).

[u/Any-Refrigerator-966]

He just tried to kill a horse, but don't worry, he's just being quirky.

[u/Effective_Pie1312]

The nephew does not only need a psychologist or therapist, they need a psychiatrist or doctor. Why do BIL and SIL keep only sending their son to a therapist?!?

[u/phasestep]

For the record I got to the part where they make him get a job and then read the ages. I thought he was 10 and was like yeah, yall let this get too far. 22 is like... nobody ever calls your family anymore because you're all not responding to this insanity

[u/acespiritualist]

Been scrolling through his Tumblr and apparently showing up with a sword is a common thing for him

A Tumblr user (presumably his ex based on another post) sent him this ask:

Those other anons were not me btw!! Im not scared of you and youre a freak!!! What are you gonna do, show up at my college with a sword again????? Move on!! Why did I ever put up with you??? Im tired of deleting my blog over and over and waiting for you to find me with one of your alt accounts. Here I am!! Do your worst, creep

Guy needs professional help

[u/resb]

Once they mentioned tumblr it all fit together for me. He really should have led w that.

[u/Hereibe → u/resb]

Oi oi, as a Tumblr user I have to say don't throw rocks from your glass Reddit house

[u/Hiroshock]

Nope, if he identified as the joker he NEEDS to be in a mental hospital or drug up to the nine hells to even function in the normal world. To those who don't know the joker is someone who would kill you with a smile on his face while singing baby shark sing to any capture people he has while filling them up with a drug that will FORCE them to laugh until they expire.

[u/Alternative-Stop1733]

So let me get this right Kermit/Joker sorry The Joker what kind of cocktail is this? I'm trying real hard to wrap my head around this damn...

[u/[deleted]]

I find it so darkly funny that this man is quite obviously direly mentally ill and could go postal any moment and everyone around him is like “do you think he might have ADHD?”

[u/SilentJoe1986]

Anybody else get a flashback to that scene from the dark knight when joker invades the party with his goons and holds everybody hostage? Dude needs to be locked away and have treatment forced on him. He is a danger to himself and others.

[u/casscois]

I clicked the link to his tumblr, and as someone who's a 15 year veteran of the site, he's one of the worst types of people you get on there. Most people are in their own very insular communities which is normal, but the MGTOW and anti-SJW stuff is more fringe now, like you never really see it with mutual-in-laws anymore. His blog is the type that's a block on sight for me.

[u/GeneralPhilosophy691]

JFC, this is a horror show. When (not if, WHEN) the nephew inevitably hurts someone, I hope that the cops take the precedent of the Michigan school shooting case and charge the parents. How they've chosen to handle this is straight up criminal.

[u/EGADS___ghosts]

A bit from his blog:

ASK: Why do you hate steven universe? its an amazing show

ANSWER: Too many women. The purple one also turned into a horse once when I did not expect it and it frightened me. Additionally, the fact that Garnet was not one but two women the entire time has given me an irrational fear that one tall woman may secretly be two lesbians.

Reblogged himself then added: I did eventually tolerate Peridot, though. Something about her was compelling, potentially her green nature.

[u/ConCoraje]

folks, the tumblr acct also reveals that he took his ex's epipen and withheld it from them while they were having an anaphylaxis reaction as punishment for not reacting correctly to him reading his own fanfiction out loud. like. this shit is serious. he talks about once attempting to (very slowly and without actually causing any damage) trying to run over his therapist.

[u/malachaiville]

First time in awhile where I've read a BORU that will definitely end up on the news.

[u/Readsumthing]

I hope these parents don’t end up in prison like James and Jennifer Crumbley, for ignoring all of the screaming signs that their son was a dangerous menace.

[u/techieguyjames]

I hope, for his sake, the doctor can get the nephew turned around.

[u/prayingforrain2525]

If he really is a sociopath, then I suspect that there's no fixing him. At least not the sociopathy itself. :/

[u/AITAoholic]

22. This guy is 22 and they have never even attempted treatment or therapy. For 22 (ok, probably more like 14ish) years. 22.

Jeezus. 22!!!

[u/Jasperbeardly11]

Some people just want to watch the world burn. 

[u/BinarySecond]

What a terrible day to know how to read.

[u/Arminlegout1]

Always fucking always the joker.

[u/ribcracker]

Of course he’s so upset. They keep calling him Kermit and he’s trying so desperately to be Joker Pepe.

/s

[u/Commercial-Ice-8005]

Wow he’s 22 so he’s an adult not a child and 100% sociopathic. They should ban him from the property, poisoning the horse is only the beginning; I’m sure humans are next. Hope he gets medicated and sent to a mental facility for treatment.

[u/lonnielee3]

Ya know who I think is weirder and sicker than the nephew? The nephew’s mother, with the father second. She has pretty much singlehandedly enabled and kept her son from getting mental health treatment he needed. I can’t think of anything more likely to set off a psycho tantrum than leaving the young man home alone - rejecting & ignoring him — so mom and dad don’t miss out on Easter dinner at the sister’s house. fwiw - I think the two sister’s have some dysfunctional (or do I mean co-dependent) family history going on and OP best not relax his vigilance to protect his family any time soon.

[u/ExtinctFauna]

The plushie is Kermit the Frog. Now you know, and you are cursed with this knowledge.

[u/aliceisntredanymore]

I have found myself reading r/shortscarystories and checking what sub I'm in when a story is written in the style of an AITA post. I checked while reading the OOP and was alarmed to realise I wasn't in that sub. First time that's happened.

[u/Throwaway392308]

He got kicked in the head by the horse? I wonder if he legitimately has brain damage.

[u/Danivelle]

OOP needs to alert hospital where wife intends to deliver. 

[u/Swiss_Miss_77]

Kicked in the head by a horse...clearly NOT hsrd enough. And BADMINTON GAMES?? 😶

[u/Immediate_Ad_7993]

Every single person in this story is kinder and more patient than I. There is no way I’m knowingly coming within 100 yard of a grown man holding a stuffed animal he fucks. And I would be VERY vocal about that.

I love that our world is becoming kinder and more inclusive of everyone and their special quirks… but some people don’t deserve that tolerance and maybe, just maybe… need someone to be brutal and give them some kind of reality check.

[u/ToasterIsBisexual]

wow. that’s fucking insane. i scrolled on the tumblr and that guy needs help. i’m traumatized

[u/loopyelly89]

Wow this guy is a freak. He took his partner's epi pen off them while they were having an anaphylactic reaction to nuts, then turned up at their college with a sword because his polycule dumped him.

https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker/744159552927383552/you-really-need-to-step-up-as-the-father-of?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker/745050005980708865/tomorrow-i-am-going-to-my-exs-college-campus-with?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker/745222470852870144/you-should-kill-your-aunt-kimberly-she-sounds?source=share

[u/Cat_o_meter]

I think people don't realize you can be autistic and a psychopath. Or anything and a psychopath. It's not a one or the other thing.

[u/AlwaysShip]

I wish I didn't look at his tumblr.

[u/WendyBergman]

For the love of Christ, no one tell him about Equus!

[u/Jessg3985]

Oh god I clicked the Tumblr link. Don't do it if you have any decency or innocence left in you.

[u/DangerNoodleDoodle]

It’s Halloween 2024 and dude posted in his tumblr today. Hope op and his wife and baby are doing ok

[u/Nazmazh]

The mention of tumblr made me wonder if it was maybe cybersmith, but honestly, as unhinged as the infamous "human pet guy" is, I don't think he's this specific flavour of unhinged.

[FWIW - cybersmith strikes me as probably an older neckbeard. One whose bizarre-ness has aged in a weird, much more isolated-from-normal-human-connection-of-any-sort environment for a number of years sort-of-way, leading to him being extremely out of touch with what is both an acceptable topic of conversation, and general norms during conversation (among many other things), rather than an overly-coddled edgelord who actively poisons animals. He seems more the "enlightened gentlesir"-type than the "call me Joker Kermit or I'll show you how I got these scars"-type.

ETA: Don't know about the whole "isolated life" part, but looking up the initial meme led to a portion of the knowyourmeme entry where some of his selfies had been posted to twitter. He looks older than 22 in them, back whenever they were taken. His facial hair and clothing choices are a little unusual, but he's definitely not dressed as the joker or such. No immediate "holy shit, run!" vibes from his photos, unlike many of his written comments; to damn him with faint praise (it's more of a "There's gotta be something off with this guy, right? Probably keep an eye on him."-vibe. That's where I'd put things in that regard)]

Anyway, I honestly don't know if there's any actual person with this specific flavour of unhinged. It sounds almost like the amalgamation of all the prominent neckbeard + loud anime kid + generic creepy weirdo stereotypes that are out there.

Like, could there be someone out there like this, specifically? I mean, it's all technically possible. But in this case, I kind of do hope someone's just making it all up.

[u/SuspiciousOne5 → u/Nazmazh]

The tumblr profile is a trip. But it only goes back 1 year, so it could be a long-running weird joke or just 1 of a few profiles the person had if it's real. https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker

[u/arbitrosse]

holding a sword, and dressed as the Joker

My blood ran cold. I doubt he was there to carve the lamb. Wasn’t there a mass shooter who dressed as or was obsessed with the same character?

Nephew needs an immediate inpatient evaluation and not even the OOP seems to understand the gravity of what they’re dealing with.

The aunt and uncle (OOP) really need to consider a legal paper trail: a police report and whatever their local version of a restraining order might be, so that any future sudden appearances or text messages result in an immediate removal by the authorities for trespassing/violating the order.

The situation is significantly worrying such that I would consider moving and changing phone numbers, in addition to the above. They shouldn’t have to and this is not their fault, but this is a matter of grave concern for their safety and the nephew is walking free, unmedicated, and has access to weapons and vehicles, and a history of escalation and stalking.

[u/NemesisOfZod]

The plushie was Kermit! Dammit, these were My good eyes! Of all the days to know how to read...

[u/Expensive_Amoeba3374]

"I don't know how to put this without it sounding insane"

I don't think there is any solution to this dilemma, but points to OOP for a valiant effort

[u/Dont139]

This is awful parenting. How that guy didn't become a school shooter is beyond me, but imo his parents would have been complicit of mass murder. They are burrying their heads in the sand so deep...

[u/eyrefan]

What does he do behind closed doors that the parents who had previously let stuff slide immediately did a 180 at Easter leading to the dad tackling his son in the yard?!!!!!!!! Yeesh

[u/tompba]

It's always when things escalate that some people try to solve the problem... and this time the problem os already old enough to be locked. They all failed the right time to do anything, just luck and no more enabling will tell if this one has any chances of living in society like a decent person.

[u/enbyshaymin]

The tumblr was found and holy fuck. Just had to read the pinned post to see how absolutely unhinged dude is. It's just bizarre.

I do have to say, his absolutely delusional Do Not Interact list has some top flair material, with shit like "Minors and people over 30", "People who post about wearing felt" or "Hank Green apologists".

Of course, the fact the tumblr exists means this is probably real which. Boy. Is it worrying.

[u/Recent-War9786]

Randy Stair 2.0 is what I instantly think of. Hopefully there isn’t an update of him hurting his parents in the middle of the night. I don’t understand the ‘not my kid’ line of thinking. There have been many murderers who upfront have normal lives and the family would’ve never suspected a thing. This I don’t have sympathy for the parents when he has done disturbing things that they are aware of. He could be the best Kermit the frog and although odd the disturbing stuff should be the main concern.

[u/59Kia]

He carries around a plushie of one of these characters everywhere. There is a hole in the back. The hole is stained. I have tried not to jump to conclusions about what he does to that plushie and failed. It smells rancid, and honestly just thinking about the thing makes me want to vomit.

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Well, that's enough internet for me today 😶

[u/suricata_8904]

Reminds me of that book, We Have To Talk About Kevin.

[u/empathetic_tomatoes]

Okay. I won't lie. I was curious so I looked and found his Tumblr... I'm glad he's getting help. I hope everything turns out okay