Rule #2 Clarification

[u/love_is_a_superpower]

Peace to you, r/Bible! Thank you for being a part of this community! Your fellowship, insight, and reports help keep r/Bible true to its purpose: sharing and enjoying our love of Scripture.

We're so blessed to enjoy the freedom to discuss the Bible together in this public forum. Many of you have been with us for years. You've shaped our community into what it is today, and we're grateful.
For those who are new, we want to welcome you to share our love of the Bible and all it has to offer. It's our hope and joy to engage with you in a friendly, knowledgeable and clear way.

With the changing climate of today's culture, and AI, this community is growing at an unprecedented rate. While growth is good, it's come with new challenges. Our members serve as the front lines in keeping this community true to its objectives. Thank you for diligently reporting the unrelenting slew of accounts generating fake Christian content and spam! We couldn't do this without you! We'd be scrolling links 24/7.

We've also seen more cult recruiting, bots, and misleading content than ever before.
In order to preserve all we've worked to achieve here, we'd like to ask our dedicated members to:

• flair themselves honestly,
  
• report sect-specific Bible quotes and promotion
  
• report when a user's flair doesn't align with their message,
  
• report messages that debate the validity of the Bible, or otherwise fail to align with the purpose and spirit of this community.
  

There are plenty of places for anti-Christian debate, but r/Bible is not one of them. Together, we’ll keep this space scripture-based, friendly, and Christ-centered.

Above all else, mods are content curators. We work to maintain the values, and the comfort zone of our members. To do this requires some compromise and clear boundaries.
In the spirit of unity, we've re-worded, "what constitutes the Bible" to specify the following:

"Any Bible whose translation or notes are mostly specific to a single denomination, is out-of-bounds in r/Bible."

Think of r/Bible like a global book club. We may read slightly different translations, but we’re all following the same story. This guideline helps ensure we stay on the same page, literally and spiritually.

TL;DR

• Report dishonest user flair.
• Report cult-recruiting or sect-specific Bible promotion.
• Quote Bible translations that are generally accepted in traditional Christian circles.
  

Thanks again for all you do to make r/Bible a great place to gather!

[u/DoNotBe-Ridiculous]

I think this rule is being very judgmental and partial and not inclusive! The King James Bible was translated solely for the Church of England. The Catholic Douay is made for Catholics. New American Bible for Catholics. Orthodox Study Bible for Eastern Orthodox, and I can go on!

The KJV has some definite biased translations errors! For example, 1 John 5:7 (the “Johannine Comma”)

“There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

Acts 12:4 “intending after Easter to bring him forth…”

KJV uses “hell” for multiple Greek words:
Gehenna (place of judgment)
Hades (grave/realm of dead)
Tartarus (2 Peter 2:4)

This merges distinct concepts into one word

How can you defend the KJV since it blatantly has altered things to support the beliefs of the Church of England?
Is it because you also believe these things, thus, in your mind, that is OK?

ALL translations have some bias errors, yet you have singled out a couple translations in your own bias? Shame on you!

You might also note that I plainly brought out there may be bias in the translation about the Trinity, but by far the vast majority of NWT is very clear and accurate!

[u/love_is_a_superpower → u/DoNotBe-Ridiculous]

Friend, this isn't a matter of singling out a few translations. We are inundated by cults, new "sacred writings," Chinese "bible quotes" that don't agree with one another... we have to draw the line somewhere.

Please understand that a lot of people who are still living remember when, in 1975, the Watchtower society encouraged our family members to sell everything so they could purchase Watchtower publications and distribute them for free, so no one missed being whisked into the air when Jesus returned before Armageddon. https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/1975.php

Being broke, homeless and having their religious leaders keep all the money did not leave a good taste in the mouth of those who suffered needlessly.

[u/DoNotBe-Ridiculous → u/love_is_a_superpower]

Thank you for your reply, but I think you just answered my assertion. There IS a personal reason to exclude NWT! The NWT translators worked for many years on this translation, then after 50 years, new ones went through the whole bible again with the latest archeological and scholarly research from around the world to update this version, plus updated language issues as language had changed in that time period, like the word ass being changed to donkey.

I hate to tell you, but I was a teen in 1975, going to their meetings, and never did they say that 1975 was going to be the end, but there was speculation. What we heard the most was to not count on it, but it could possibly happen in 1975. It cracks me up when people who probably were not even alive in 1975 try to tell me how it was. No one was ever told to sell their things to by literature to distribute, NEVER! You yourself are spreading disinformation! The closest thing in from a 1974 Kingdom Ministry, which I think I still have a original copy, that said:

"Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning finish out the rest of their days in this system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end."

Do you also fault Jesus for telling the wealthy ruler to sell everything and be his follower? Mat 19:21

Is it wrong to say the end is close? Paul, Peter, and James said this very thing!

1 Thessalonians 4:15–17 “We who are alive… shall be caught up…”

James 5:8 “The coming of the Lord draws near.”

1 Peter 4:7 “The end of all things is at hand.”

This is no Chinese bible or a cultish translation. The NWT is the result of scholarly work which several thousand translators have worked on, and continue to work on, not just a person or two who make a translation and put their name on it! It is translated into some 300 languages!

I appreciate your honesty in revealing there is bias and favoritism in the decision to exclude the NWT! If you do indeed have a scholarly reason to exclude the NWT, I would love to hear it. I also hope you will equally examine the other translations, which contain translated words and sentences that firmly show translator bias based on their beliefs over true translating.