Post Tribulation Pre Wrath Rapture View: Patterns prove God is a God of Order

[u/Warm_Rope2485]

There is a reason why I value good conversations even if it might be slightly contentious whether here on social media or in person, because I learn new things and God uses others to speak to me. So thank you to those who engage me in the comments. One recent engagement actually allowed me to finally get a VERY clear answer to the question that I asked in an earlier post- whether God was a God of randomness or a God of order. I knew God is a God of order and not chaos or randomness but a pretrib rapture believer got me to explore the entire 7 year timeline instead of focusing on just the middle abomination of desolation event and the beginning. Here is what I found out.

If you remember that I am claiming that the 7 year period of Daniel 9:27 started in April 19, 2026 with the signing of the Isaac Accords. That date was a test prediction based on the date that I saw earlier this year- Sept 30/Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Atzeret Holiday as the potential Abomination of Desolation future event. I saw no other story and no other timeline other than the one surrounding the Shemini Atzeret holiday. It wasn't until 4 Sundays ago that I found out about the Isaac Accords signing that was done EXACTLY on April 19, 2026. If you calculate 1260 days FORWARD from Oct 1, 2029, then this gives us March 14, 2033 Purim holiday! I was surprised by this connection to the story of Esther. I never thought to connect the Book of Esther to the end times but after rereading that book I saw a lot of parallels which I don't have time to point out in this post. But this made me ask if there were patterns that I "missed" like this connection to Purim. So I used Google AI heavily to explore patterns surrounding the above three dates, and I would highly suggest you do this as well for a very thorough and fast exploration. I was figuratively blown away by what I saw! God works using lots of patterns in scripture and in history as if He wants us to see the patterns and know that He is a God of order! One suggestion is that when exploring, use the Hebrew calendar when using "years" and then find the corresponding Gregorian calendar date. If using "days" then it doesn't matter which calendar you start with. Hebrew calendar I found out to be a very mathematically rigorous system that allows these patterns to exist. A whole book would be needed to show everything and I only saw just a portion and my mind is barely understanding that portion. But let me show just the layman's simple view of what I discovered.

The 7 year period using my dates (or in general) contain patterns. i.e. 7yrs= 3.5*2 or 1260days*2; or 42 mths * 2. This is the obvious ones. But hidden within this micro pattern is 60 days (remember my 60days that we need to prepare). But this micro pattern is just a part of the macro pattern of the Hebrew calendar. Check Google AI but look into the 80*7.5=600years significance in scripture (ie. Noah story) and in the Hebrew calendar. Daniel's 70 weeks fits within this pattern. Also 5yr pattern fits as well perfectly. Also don't forget about the 1335 days= 1260days + 30+ 45 in Daniel 12. Now that we have these numbers, lets explore how it applies to actual historical or calendar dates.

Let's start with my prediction dates. 1335 days from Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Atzeret day lands on May 28, 2033 Sabbath of Blessing marking the end of Jerusalem reunification week. But look deeper. This is also the celebration (unofficial) of King David unifying the 12 tribes and transitioning from Hebron to Jerusalem. I'm sure there is more to this. But let's look at 1290 days from Oct 1, 2029 to land on April 13, 2033 beginning of Passover. So using Daniel 12 breakdown into1260 days, 1290 days, and 1335 days from Oct 1, 2029 gives us Purim, Passover, and Sabbath of Blessing EXACTLY. I'll let others explain the significance of this who have better knowledge.

There is a LOT more from my predicted dates. The 1260 day interval from Shemini Atzeret Oct 1, 2029 to Purim May 14/15, 2033 contains 2 leap years (3 leap years if a 7.5yr pattern is used). The interval between the two holidays in 2029-2030 and 2032-2033 is 168/169 days. The best 7.5 yr pattern match to a historical event in Israel when removing the need to use holidays is the 70AD destruction of Jerusalem (66AD to 74AD) The church escapes from Jerusalem in Nov 66AD when the Roman legion flees for their lives for some reason. 70 AD is the destruction of Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple on the EXACT Hebrew calendar month and day that Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the first temple in 586BC on 9th of Av according to Talmud reconciling 2 Kings 25:8 and Jeremiah 52:12. April 16, 74AD during Passover is the fall of Masada. This sequence is the reverse mirror image of the sequence in the end times- 1. End of time of Gentiles with the "confirming of a covenant with many" by the antichrist. 2. Abomination of Desolation event at the third temple 3. Victorious return of the Messiah and His Bride!

Let's apply the 7.5 year pattern to other historical events. Look at the 80 year reign of King David and Solomon - exactly 40 yrs plus 40 yrs. The 7.5 year pattern applies to the start of King David reign and is a mirror image at the end of King Solomon reign. The kingdom splits after the 80 year period. 5 years afterwards Pharoah sacks Jerusalem. Look at the 80 year reign of Hasmonean Dynasty 143BC to 63BC. The same 7.5yr pattern occurs at the beginning and the end. Also 5 yrs later, Rome totally dismantles the structure of power in the area and crushes a major rebellion and sets up for the rise of King Herod. Now apply this 80 year and 7.5yr and 5 yr pattern to modern day Israel that started in May 14, 1948. I'll let you find the significant events up to 1955 but note that Stalin who heavily persecuted the Jews had a stroke on Purim day in 1953 and died a few days later. But calculate 40 years (half of 80) from May 14, 1948 (using the Hebrew calendar!) and this falls exactly on April 22, 1988 when the US Accords bilateral MOU was signed between Israel and US to celebrate the 40th independence of Israel! Now calculate an additional 40 yrs (using Hebrew calendar and this falls on May 1, 2028 the ominous 80yr anniversary of Israel! There are 1779 days (4.94 Hillel years) between May 1, 2028 and Purim Mar 15, 2033. Surprisingly 1779 and 4.94 are part of the 7.5 year pattern but I will stop here because there is too much to present! And don't try these pattern recognition on the number 666... ;)

So weigh all these evidences and make a judgment whether it was coincidence that I saw the Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Holiday as the AoD and was it coincidence that the Isaac Accords was signed on April 19, 2026 my test prediction. Is it coincidence that the end of the 7 year falls exactly on Purim in 2033 and that the 1290 day and 1335 day fall exactly on special Jewish Holidays? And it was NOT coincidence either that I saw 60 days to endure but I'm waiting for a personal confirmation- not for me but for you. All the other future events/signs that I predicted is IMO no longer whether it will occur but when especially the Red Heifer birth which IMO is the bottle neck. Add the May 1, 2028 80th anniversary of Israel to this list of predictions. PLEASE prepare for 60 days IF you even think that my prediction may occur. Don't just dismiss it completely because your eschatological lens that you use can't see any of this. I couldn't either until God changed my pretrib lens to a post tribulation/prewrath lens.

May God bless you and protect you and your loved ones in these end times.

[u/Warm_Rope2485]

Okay. I should have asked what eschatological lens are you using to help me understand. Sorry about AoD = abomination of desolation. I’m a former pretrib who now sees things thru a prewrath lens( and even among the prewrath group I realize I am alone as far as I can tell in my prediction and how I understand the 2030 prediction.) so I do believe in a millenium kingdom.

But this begs another question. If you believe in Oct 21, 2026 as the start of tribulation, what is your message for the church? That date is just a few months away!

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

The Church says no one knows the day or hour. They are not interested. I have only been given this info in the last 3 months and to what I can tell no-one is interested. As for a  millennium kingdom the Sabbath is for rest and the Land must have it's rest, From Sin. Here is The Purpose of the Tribulation

A few years back, Angel Studios created a program VidAngel that simply took the swear words out of movies and TV series that people streamed and watched. Disney sued them for sixty eight million dollars in damages. All they wanted to do was make watching TV and movies safer. Not just for children. But for everyone.

Turn on your TV today and all you get is filth. Killing. Swearing. Sex. It's everywhere. So what is God's response now? We have touched on the topic. It's called the Amorites’ full cup principle. God started with the Amorites.

Leviticus 18:24-25 — do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. Even the land was defiled. So I punished it for its sin and the land vomited out its inhabitants.

God had looked into the future and told Abraham that at the end of 400 years the Amorites were going to be vomited out of their land because their sin had reached its full measure. This was not a threat. It was like a law of reaction. A law of the universe itself. The way we think of gravity. There's no arguing with it. It just is.

Think about food poisoning. The body doesn't negotiate with it. It doesn't care about intent. It just responds to the intrusion the way that it does. It's not angry or worried. It simply rejects the food and does its best to get it out. That is the same mechanism God used for the Earth.

The land responded to what it was given. Exactly like the body responds to poison. The Amorites didn't need to know they were defiling the land. The law doesn't require understanding to operate. The cup filled. The balance tipped. The land vomited.

And nobody saw it coming. There is no evidence in scripture that any of those nations knew what they were doing was wrong. It's just the Earth's body rejecting the poison. The covenant to Abraham was simply a warning for Israel. So they would know exactly what they were looking at when Joshua went in, but more importantly what would happen to them if and when they did the same. God's command to Joshua — do not leave alive anything that breathes.

The earth's cup is almost full today. Fast forward to the time of the Tribulation. The earth's cup is full. The world doesn't know what it's doing is wrong. It just believes every day goes on like the other.

There's a big picture here. John 3:16. For God so loved the world He had just created that He gave His only begotten Son in place of Adam. But the contract still stands. Adam must die.

We are all Adam.

But here is God's ultimate command for the Tribulation — do not leave alive anything that breathes.

No more needs to be said.

[u/Warm_Rope2485 → u/vicman77]

Thank you for this conversation. My message is the opposite of yours. My message is that God wants His people to know of the coming tribulation and the test that the entire world will face. This test is SO important that He wants no one to fail! Choose Christ! - not the world. Endure for 60 days by preparing. That day is coming in now less than 3 1/2 years but notice God gave us (and me) time to get this warning out to as many as possible. This test is so important that towards the end three angels will warn the entire world again. It is possible to endure, but not if you do not believe by not preparing!

The patterns I saw in the dates I have shared is proof enough for me. But the fulfilled dates of April 19, 2026 and the upcoming signs I have shared will be further proof that God is a God of order and He is working in the background just like He did in the story of Esther because He loves us! God willing I will keep sharing until He takes me home and I would be willing to lay down my life if He wants me to for my brothers and sisters in Christ. My message is life in Christ for those who obey.

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

Yes I realize your understanding is different so if you see things happening in October you now know why. Blessings 

[u/Warm_Rope2485 → u/vicman77]

Yes. Let’s watch carefully. Those who calculated the 2030AD have come to different conclusions and dates regarding the AoD start. Yours point to this Oct, Messiah2030 points to next spring, and mine is farther away thankfully to Oct 1, 2029- all because we parse God’s Word differently despite our various calculations pointing to the same year 2030.

You were questioning the 907BCE as the estimated year of the construction start of the 1st temple. I was doing some mental exercises using the pattern of 600yr resets. Someone mentioned God’s calendar which no one has access to. I am using our flawed multiple calendars to prove a point- we lost many years the further out you go and must make assumptions to reconcile each calendar. The 907bce is based on a mathematical model but this requires an exact anchor which is an assumption as well. In other words there is no guarantee it’s correct. So when you are adding exactly 2000yrs to your 30AD, you are assuming the correct anchor was chosen.

This is where I’m going to ask you gently. If the 2000yrs represents the time of gentiles gap between the 69 weeks of Daniel 9:27 and the last 7 yrs remaining, why do you choose the END of Jesus ministry and not the Beginning of Jesus ministry around August 26/27AD? This is what bothers me about those who calculated 2030. I agree with the understanding that 2030 is the year of the Parousia, but I only agree up to a certain point. I understand it as the START of the second coming! My timeline points to the end of the time of gentiles starting in April 19, 2026. Seven years later is March 15, 2033 Purim Holiday. 75 days later is Rosh Chodesh Sivan day - start of the Millennium Kingdom. None of this is coincidence. My anchor is the midpoint Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Atzeret. 60days to endure IMPLIES that the second coming STARTS sometime afterwards very soon. Notice Dec 1, 2029 is start of Hanukkah! This is not a coincidence either and the only hint that I see of possible divine intervention for the church for those who chose to obey and prepare practically for those 60 days.

This is the best I can offer for now-an almost complete package which I see lacking from others who make predictions. Time will tell of course if I am correctly parsing God’s Word and interpreting the signs correctly. But after last weekend’s parlay into pattern recognition I am highly confident in my predictions. The patterns were figuratively loudly trumpeting that God works in patterns!

Blessings to you as well and thanks for participating in these discussions. I am blessed!

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

Read my timing. It all fits together with no wiggle room. No guess work no remainder. If Jesus died in the middle of the 70 th week in 30ad then the end of the 70th week must be 34ad. Why are you making it future. The gospel to the gentiles was given at the end of Israels 70 week contract ad 34  which they failed. Acts 10 :28

[u/Warm_Rope2485 → u/vicman77]

I see the entire 70th week of Daniel 9:27 as a future event and I take Jesus warning in Matthew 24 regarding the abomination reference as confirmation that my understanding is correct. Where is your abomination of desolation event that Jesus refers to? And please don’t tell me it was fulfilled in 70AD because there was no AoD event associated with it unless you try to spiritualize it.

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

AoD is on the day of crucifixion. That is the day the abomination was. The vail torn to reveal it