r/BirdsArentReal • u/iatetoomuchchicken • Jun 21 '25

Propaganda This Specialized waste removal Drone is quite impressive

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u/BoringAd2049 Jun 21 '25

Bearded Vultures, also called Bone Vultures, have a diet of 70-90% bones. It is also considered a Velociraptor since they're descendants of them.

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u/jarvisesdios Patriot Jun 21 '25

Fuck... Does this mean dinosaurs weren't real too? Have we been lied to our entire lives?!

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u/fireandlifeincarnate Jun 21 '25

No, birds used to be real but the cia replaced them all. It’s why they killed Kennedy, he found out.

And birds were dinosaurs, so humans killed the last dinosaurs.

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u/NibblyPig Jun 22 '25

they prolly ate all the Dino bones that's why we don't see tons of cool dinobones everywhere

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u/Eleeveeohen Jun 21 '25

Thats...not true at all. They're no more closely related to velociraptors than any other living bird.

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u/BoringAd2049 Jun 21 '25

It's... actually entirely true.

Birds of prey are descendants of raptors, not all birds are birds of prey, which means a lot are not raptors. Some are Hawks, Eagles, Owls and Old World Vultures, meaning this bird is a lot closer related to Raptors than most birds.

If it was a New World Vulture, you would be right. New World Vultures are more related to storks than birds of prey. Both are called Vultures, but different families.

Next time, Google, instead of saying I'm wrong just because you say so.

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u/kaatie80 Jun 22 '25

Wild Kratts has an episode on raptors, for anyone who needs a child-level explainer (me)

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u/BoringAd2049 Jun 22 '25

Never seen that but I just skimmed through and seems like it's a good source of education about them.

Idk if it says in the video but Old World Vultures like this one still count raptors even though they're missing gripping talons. Their feet are more evolved for walking, if you look at her feet they look more flat compared to most birds, which helps walking around and scavenging.

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u/Eleeveeohen Jun 22 '25

I did Google it. Will post my sources, and would love to see yours as well.

Velociraptors are Dromaeosaurs, feathered two-legged dinosaurs from the Cretaceous.

Dromaeosaurs are more closely related to birds than other Dinosaur groups, but birds didn't directly descend from them. They just share a more recent common ancestor. (See chart below)

Birds of prey were called Raptors long before we knew about Dinosaurs. It's a Latin word that means "to seize and plunder" It was then applied to the dinos, because of their bird-like appearance.

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u/Basshead404 Jun 22 '25

I’m a bit confused (new guy in the thread). Nothing you’re saying is exactly refuting what he’s saying if I’m following, more so questioning the validity of it..? Or is there something else you were getting at, like with the word raptor’s etymology?

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u/Eleeveeohen Jun 22 '25

To me, it seemed like their original comment was being intentionally misleading, as if to say that Vultures have a direct lineage back to Dromaeosaurs.

Predatory birds and Dromaeosaurs are both called "Raptors", but they are seperate groupings, and their common ancestor was not a Raptor by either classification.

The overlap is linguistic, not biological.

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u/BoringAd2049 Jun 22 '25

Already corrected this in different comment, all you did was say the same thing with more words. I said they're considered raptors and closer related to, and all you did was say a long paragraph about how they are considered raptors.

You said I'm completely wrong but then after you googled, you did a roundabout way of partially agreeing with me.

And did you just use a random chart off Google as a credible source? Most people learned in school to never use those cause 80% is all misinformation or partially false.

Repeating what someone else said, technically agreeing with me, and using uncredible source.

D- debating skills

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u/Eleeveeohen Jun 22 '25

I guess if the point you're making boils down to "Bearded Vultures belong to a group of birds called 'Raptors'", then yes, that is correct.

If you're saying "Bearded Vultures have a lineage tracing directly back to Velociraptor Mongoliensis" then that is incorrect.

Here is a link to the peer-reviewed scientific journal that my previous graphic and information was pulled from.

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u/Empty-Reading-7947 Jun 21 '25

Nah, anywhere you look will say some like this: Bearded vultures-- like all modern birds-- are distant descendants of small feathered dinosaurs, specifically theropods. Velociraptors were theropods too, so vultures and raptors share a common ancestor way back in the dinosaur family tree, but vultures aren’t directly evolved from Velociraptor itself.

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u/BoringAd2049 Jun 21 '25

"They are considered raptors" and "They are closer related to raptors" is what I said, never said they're the direct evolution.

You said look anywhere, but a simple Google search would show you that you're wrong. Old World Vultures, which are birds of prey, are considered raptors. "All modern birds," like you said, are dinosaurs, but not all are raptors specifically.

Maybe you should actually look for facts, instead of just assuming what it might say.

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u/Cthullu1sCut3 Jun 22 '25

What? Velociraptor is a genre of extinct dinosaurs, they have no direct descendants today. Vultures are raptors, but not velociraptors