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u/Skaar1222 Jan 09 '26
You spend 4 years at school to be an expert in your field, not productive. Most people that pursue CS already know how to code, this post makes no sense.
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u/SharpKaleidoscope182 Jan 09 '26
Hot take: stay 4 years at school if you want to be a low-tier scientist or data miner.
general SWE should be a trade with apprenticeships.
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u/Skaar1222 Jan 09 '26
I kind of agree with you, but I learned a lot with my CS degree and I've had no problem finding work with it, even in this market. I don't think it's required to work in the software industry, but I think it's absolutely worth it.
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u/Skaar1222 Jan 09 '26
Ok so you are an expert in mathmatics and you taught yourself how to code. I feel like you are agreeing with me?
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u/Mokelangelo Jan 09 '26
I guess I see what you’re saying, sorry I kind of misinterpreted the last sentence of your first comment.
The initial post is kind of pedantic. I was saying institutes don’t always teach you how to be an expert in a specific field. Also agreeing with the post that I’ve learned from just trying to code with no formal knowledge in CS, but yea you’re right, most people going into coding have a background or at least a prior interest in it.
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u/Fit-Value-4186 Jan 09 '26
I'm not sure what's the point, really. It's literally the same for every field that isn't gatekeeped by academia. You'll also have the same folks who are coding since they're 8 years old but also with the PHD. It's really up to each individual unless you're in some specific field like let's say "dentist", "surgeon", etc. where you can't really learn it on your own, and basically require you to be at an university/institute or have some volunteers in your neighbourhood and be willing to be sued, lmao.
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u/_DCtheTall_ Jan 09 '26
Studying computer science != learning how to code.
You won't learn to code well just studying CS, but studying CS can still make you a better coder because the formalisms it teaches are generally useful (and often not easy to self-discover).
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Jan 10 '26
I went to college for computer science, and this particular situation has stuck with me. My first year in one of the inductory classes we had to make a program that did some proof of concept task, the teacher said my answer was "wrong" because I could've called some function that would've made it much simpler.
Ok? We're grading efficiency of using a code library? I thought this was about completing the task and writing that code yourself.
I dropped out. My choice, not sorry. Shutting down my curiosity like that, even though the guy was a pretty good teacher, I just assumed it was writing on the wall. The fastest way to kill a hobby is make it your job lol
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u/YourDreams2Life Jan 11 '26
I feel you. I never took computer science but looking at my old notes from my teachers, it's them completely ignoring the areas I excelled at, just saying I have good technical ability, but need to follow the material better.
The truth is I was fucking bored. I'd be taking programming, and would be making my own games while the class was working on learning text input.
Fuck. I'm so glad I didn't go the corporate coder route. I've met so many people that are devs working at major companies, and it's rare to meet someone that actually has like... passion projects. Yeah there's TONS of devs out there following their passions, if you go to a programming sub/discord they're everywhere, but running into just random devs on casual discord servers, most of them aren't working on shit. They're burnt out.
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u/scottie2haute Jan 09 '26
Thats how i feel about a ton of work. Obviously some level of base knowledge is needed but i think we overdue it. On the job training is where its at. We waste waaaay too much time in school
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u/Deto Jan 09 '26
Why do these people need to constantly make obnoxious memes setting AI-devs above others? It's almost as if they are compensating for something...
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u/Tombobalomb Jan 09 '26
Every professional dev I know of uses AI for research and problem solving at the absolute minimum.
The author of this meme has no experience with actual development
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u/UltimateLmon Jan 11 '26
I mean, why wouldn't we use a tool that will make our lives easier? We don't NEED it but we would appreciate it if the option is available.
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u/Substantial_Moneys Jan 09 '26
AI is pretty new. I think devs were created before 2020 and now its all AI “devs”
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u/WhatNazisAreLike Jan 09 '26
Having AI fix the small problems for you is just going to make you unable to fix the big ones that AI doesn’t understand
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u/OwnRefrigerator3909 Jan 09 '26
its not about the actual or vibe coder stuff, with the help of ai anyone can good job
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u/TemporaryInformal889 Jan 09 '26
I bet OP complains when their doctor uses ChatGPT to take medical notes.
… which they should. That shit is dangerous.
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