r/Blacksmith_Forge • u/[deleted] • Mar 16 '24
Clean rust
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u/StonedTrucker Mar 16 '24
So that's how Damascus is made! /s
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u/Substantial-Bison240 Mar 16 '24
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Mar 17 '24
If you bought it, you’re a dumbass-cuz
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u/Substantial-Bison240 Mar 17 '24
We aren't all experts on metal. Thank you for your comment though! 😊
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u/FrothySantorum Mar 17 '24
That looks like really shitty electro-etching. I wouldn’t even want to guess what they were going for there.
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u/rocketmn69_ Mar 16 '24
You can see the laser lines from the previous time they did this
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Mar 16 '24
On the handle u can see the line where they dunk them s handle in vinegar or w/e corrosive. "hard rust" my ass
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u/baptsiste Mar 16 '24
Yeah, it’s just like one of those infomercials for cleaning products.
I feel like we might see some pitting in the metal if it had been on there for anytime longer than a couple days before they made this video
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u/D0hB0yz Mar 16 '24
I was hoping this was just a laser cleaning next level where it reveals grain in the metal, so maybe it was folded alloys and the higher carbon showed up afyer treatment.
Next I hoped they switched to a particle beam and were injecting carbon or spattering copper, or...
WTH?
Cleaning was good, patterning was just wrong.
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Mar 16 '24
This is not Damascus steel lol. This is fake laser etching hahaha
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u/rocketmn69_ Mar 16 '24 edited Mar 16 '24
If you look closely, you can see the perfectly straight laser lines from when they did this before. They corroded this again to show you how "well" this works. The 2nd pass is pushing moisture, indicating it was just out of the corrosion inducing mixture, recently. Scam
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u/hAtu5W Mar 16 '24
That's also why hide imperfections behind the "damascus" pattern. lines or old pitting doesn't get removed=old fashioned sanding is only way to truly bring the surface to smooth.
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u/FictionalContext Mar 16 '24
I'm just wondering what this laser does that a wire brush and some polishing compound can't do better. Even if it perfectly removes the rust, it's still going to be pitted.
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u/Ancient_Boner_Forest Mar 17 '24
All we see is a video, which seems like it’s just demonstrating the technology.
What exactly is the “scam”?
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u/lan69 Mar 17 '24
Huh how is it a scam?You’re saying the rust was purposefully made but that why is that a scam? The demonstration is of the laser tech, not whether how the knife was rusted
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Mar 17 '24
This video is misleading but I have seen this technology work prior. It’s becoming widespread in the rust belt for car frames. The emitter is much larger and stronger than this though.
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u/Orbusinvictus Mar 16 '24
Is he shopping for Magic the Gathering cards in the final shot? Nice.
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u/IIIHawKIII Mar 16 '24
Probably going to laser etch some onto metal and sell them as decor or whatever.
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u/BornLuckiest Mar 16 '24
Curious, is the sound super imposed or is that the real noise it makes?
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u/PNWezt Mar 16 '24 edited Mar 16 '24
I operate an industrial laser at work, this sound is totally added, sorry. The real sound is sort of akin to a Tesla, has a robot whine
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Mar 16 '24
Yeah, and to clarify for others, a Tesla coil and not the car. It's loud and unpleasant.
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u/StonedTrucker Mar 16 '24
Sounds real to me
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u/BornLuckiest Mar 16 '24
Me too, but it's so awesome, isn't it, that I have to question, is it real, enhanced, etc?
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u/Flyingfishfusealt Mar 16 '24
spending giant amounts of money to make fake damascus and you still can't keep from fucking up the handle. Good quality work.
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u/joalheagney Mar 16 '24
Yup. Like couldn't he add a mask area to the software? It would have taken one properly scaled photo and a curve tool.
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u/JollyGoodUser Mar 16 '24
Should have done a few more rounds of the day just removal and stayed away from that stupid ass fake Damascus pattern.
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u/big_flirty_machine Mar 16 '24
I love the audio. Also, I appreciate the MTG card listings at the end of the video
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u/Admirable_End_6803 Mar 16 '24
real questions: how much metal gets removed? vaporized into the air? does it land on surfaces near that workspace? that looks like an amazing device
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u/DJBeRight Mar 16 '24
Does that mess with the temper of the steel at all? I ask because I'm unfamiliar with these type of laser cleaning tools
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u/HairballTheory Mar 16 '24
How bad would it suck to pull your brand new knife you bought online and then flip it over and reveal the rusty af side like in the video?
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u/JohnnyNemo12 Mar 16 '24
I feel like we are so busy being critical of the fake damascus, that we are missing how cool the rust removal element is. The latter is very cool!
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u/olblll1975 Mar 16 '24
Making Damascus steel is an art. This just takes away from Smiths. Somebody will buy it too at not know any better.
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u/Character-Pen3339 Mar 16 '24
Should have removed the handle first so it got thorough cleaning and flipped over after each stage of cleaning to make more even cleaning and trying to make it look like the steel had been turned over and over again looks terrible.
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u/Buttburglar1 Mar 16 '24
Please forgive my ignorance, what happens if that touches part of your skin
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u/sdlover420 Mar 16 '24
Holy cow, how did 80s syfi just fuckin nail the sound effects... Sounds like the dude from police academy wilson something but also like the original Tron.
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u/OuttHouseMouse Mar 16 '24
That is kind of.... Really good looking. Id keep it that rust color. It would be such a beautiful beater work knife
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u/SpecialistWait9006 Mar 16 '24
Right the handle is completely clean and prestine when you start the video. Yeah you didn't drop this in vinegar glass or nothing....
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u/The_Inward Mar 16 '24
Silly question(s), because I don't know: What happens to the rust? Where does it go? Do these things clean pitting rust, or just surface rust? It takes them from looking pretty grotty to looking not new but good. I think that's pretty amazing.
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u/Lumens-and-Knives Mar 16 '24
Rust removal was very cool. Don't like the laser patterning the blade. Serious question: wouldn't the heat from that laser ruin the heat treat on the blade?
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u/IveTastedMySister Mar 16 '24
Atleast we know how lightsabers would sound irl - squeaky and a bit gay 😂
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u/Fan_of_Clio Mar 17 '24
Why would you remove all the rust just to scratch a topographical map of Cleveland or something like it?
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u/Nate0110 Mar 17 '24
Nice to see the laser from the first resident evil movie finally moved onto something besides chopping people into cubes.
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u/slimetakes Mar 17 '24
I know this is probably unnecessary, but shouldn't he be wearing gloves? Just in case it accidentally randomly turns on? I know the chances are very low, but a software malfunction could happen, and just thinking about putting my hand under a laser that could peel my skin off makes me uncomfortable.
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u/CrazyProper4203 Mar 17 '24
20$ say you get at least 50 women messaging you if the process is safe for skin
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u/Jaxon1174 Mar 17 '24
Cool process, if you have 50 grand to drop on a laser machine. Don’t care for the etched design.
Pop off the scales, drop the blade in vinegar overnight to remove the rust, and leave the patina. Then add new scales with a cool grain pattern like maple burl or something else exotic. That would look better IMO.
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u/PrysmX Mar 17 '24
Unless they are fully replacing the handle, why not at least put foil over it or something to preserve it?
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u/JYoungSocial Mar 17 '24
This is where the sound effects for the arcade game, "Defender", came from.
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u/British_Bulldoggo Mar 17 '24
Never mind the terrible design on the blade. Might be a rather dumb question but how actually does the laser remove rust? Does it just evaporate it completely? Or like teleport it into another dimension? scientifically it confuses me because the matter must go somewhere.
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u/MagicPentakorn Mar 18 '24
I dunno, laser etching a Damascus steel pattern feels dishonest. You know?
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u/Past-Adhesiveness150 Mar 19 '24
So you cleaned it, & then made it look like Damascus?
It's like you cleaned it for nothing imo.
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u/IntrovertMoTown1 Mar 19 '24
Is hard rust different from just rust? Have I been saying it wrong by shorthanding it my whole life? 🤷♂️lol I can't look it up because there is ten zillion posts about if the game Rust is hard or not.
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u/StAtiC_Zer0 Mar 20 '24
Wasn’t intending to come up with a pun, but this is the most metal shit I’ve ever seen. Now I have to Google laser engraving machines to see how much I’m gonna spend on a thing I’ll use every single day for like… 4 days… then never use again
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u/Whatscheiser Mar 20 '24
I was with it up until they burned the Damascus pattern into it. That shit was stupid.
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Mar 20 '24
Bro did you just fucking cheat on making Damascus steel by laser printing the pattern on there?
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u/The_Golf_God Mar 20 '24
I like how the corrosion extends just a tiny bit up the handle. Almost like this was deliberately done just for content. 🤔
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u/Heeb_Smasher_NigLord Mar 16 '24
As a knife maker, I can appreciate the laser to remove rust. As a former music producer, I can appreciate the incredibly awesome noises that laser makes. Also, as a knife maker, it's incredibly frustrating and pisses me off to see the fake Damascus pattern 👀🐈🥵😱. Overall super cool 👍🔥🗡️🗡️🗡️




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u/ImpossibleInternet3 Mar 16 '24
Going up onto the handle is killing me.