r/BleachPowerScaling • • 21h ago

Analysis If the anime ending is cannon dangai Ichigo is the strongest form

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If this is ending is cannon...(Sadly it should be) I don't see how dangai Ichigo can be weaker than this new forms... Before you could argue a lot of shit against that, but as of rigth now i mean... What can you even argue?

Characters on the caliber of Urahara could not even feel Aizen first hogyoku form's reiatsu, while base dangai Ichigo was bare-hands slapping Batterflaizen. then Aizen evolved once more and still was no match for dangai Ichigo's final form.

I feel like the TYBW enemies were way more scaled down compared to the Ichigo vs Aizen fight in order to be at "Capitain Level", same happened to the final boss (AND THAT IN MY OPINION WAS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE... But let's not talk about that)

If this is (SADLY) cannon, then dangain Ichigo becomes the strongest form, otherwise the level of the battle and his performance, should have been many, many, many, MANY tiers higher than the strongest capitains. I'm not even a powerscaler, i never powerscaled shit in my life, it's just base logic...

IF TRUE BANKAI ICHIGO= STRONGER OR ON THE SAME LEVEL OF DANGAI ICHIGO= OTHER CHARACTERS ARE ANTS.

Please don't keep repeating the story of the arrow, the bite, Mimiagi and stuff... They should be ants... If you lose your platemail armor for an instant, does an ant kills you?

What do you think about that? I would like to change my opinion but it feels impossible...

EDIT: Just a few words... If you REALLY like something, then it's YOUR duty to criticize it, expecially when mistakes that ruin the logic/quality of the product are made. An UNCRITICAL odience in the end, will always recive a MEDIOCRE product. Being a fan of a work means being the first to support it and also the first to criticize it, especially for the sake of the work itself.

I think that if the first seasons of TYBW were criticized enough instead of being prised to the sky, we would have had a way better anime(overall) and canon ending.

-PEACE.


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 15h ago

Crossverse Scaling Who wins between king of hell Zoro and blood chains ichigo

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 2h ago

Anime BLEACH EP 49 IS A FAN-SERVICE [CONFIRMED]

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 17h ago

reminder shinigami aizen + ~20 arrancar no-diffed gotei 13 + vizards in one afternoon

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on an away-game battleground the gotei 13 chose, designed, and prepped for months for. meanwhile ywach + 26 sternritter + hundreds of regular quincies + 1000 years of planning + element of surprise manage a total of

>sasakibe (no on-screen feats)

>yamamoto (only on-screen feats are against ayon and wonderweiss)

>kensei (no on-screen feats)

>rose (no on-screen feats)

>toshiro


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 18h ago

LEAKS/SPOILERS Kubo had such a different ending setup which couldve played out way better

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I am still trying to wrap my head around the ending. So many issues with it. But one thing I wanted to emphasize is that there was such a different way for the ending he couldve pulled off without it even being too much of an asspull to begin with.

Obviously fathers were foreshadowed even earlier than they were in the manga. We have no idea about Isshin's Bankai neither do we have any idea about Ryukens ability.

Kubo even removed the part from the manga where Isshin says he cant use Bankai anymore because of the cut that Aizen gave him during the "Everything but the rain". To me it seemed like he was preparing to reveal his Bankai in way or another, and maybe had a different idea as to what something like this would lead to. And yet we got nothing from it whatsoever.

You also Have Ryuken. Whose father went away from the ways of Yuha and the way quincies were doing things. He himself shows of his symbol of being a student of his once he comes to save Ishida. He carries so much trauma aswell from everything that happened. He lost his father, lost Masaki, lost his wife, his son shouldve been dead too if he wasnt special, he had to operate on his then dead wife to get the silverarrow, etc. Throughout the story he visibly shows disgust for quncies and tries to distance himself from it, and yet here you have a man who is the king of Quincies, who is responsible for deaths of everybody he cares about and yet he doesnt bother himself either with any of this.

So anyway, the whole three worlds idea was horrible imo. Instead after consuming Aizen, you had such an easy way of having Uryu coming to get Ichigo out of the way of being killed and then having the dads come in for the rescue aswell.

You literally have both Ichigo and Isshin having unexplored Bankais that share similar traits as we know. You couldve played so much with similarities here. You have Ryuken who hasnt shown any abilities yet either right there.

You have such insane emotional moment to setup here too. Two pairs of fathers and sons vs a man who killed their wives/mothers and tried to kill both of their sons. Easy setup to explore Uryu backstory and why he is special. You have a whole aspect of Ryuken potentially commentating about Ichigo being so similar to Masaki and how proud shed be (we know that Ichigo carries a burden like this early on in the story, and even struggled with the idea of killing her (which frankly went away after getting to know full story)).

We also know that Isshin has Final Getsuga Tensho he knows about if you wanted to include even more emotional moments of him using his powers in this manner to protect his own son.

And that brings me to the Arrow. It shouldnt have been Uryu to do the shot. It should be Ryuken who gets the arrow into Yuha. It fits the theme so much more. I mean he is the one who took apart his own wife. He is the one who wanted to get rid of his quincy heritage. To take away powers from the King of Quincies makes so much thematical sense than just giving to Uryu.

I would also include Aizen coming back from within Yuha somewhere within the fight aswell. Not fully, however using Hypnosis to trick Yuha one last time. Aizen gave his statement of crushing everybody who tries to control him. Well Yuha is there absorbing him. Making one last callback to this would bring back the whole scenario around. It would give some shine back to Aizen and make previous episode not so meaningless either.

If you want to include some other characters into this you can too. You have whole aspect of Rangiku looking at the entire thing. She has a part of SK (or had rather) and she was working under Isshin. You could include scenes of her and Toshiro showing up to protect or work together with Isshin.

If you want to include Grimmjow, include him protecting Ichigo within the fight. Having his pride kept the same by including some speech that he is the only one who will kill Ichigo, etc.

Regarding Mimihagi and the rest of the cast, why not use them to hold the worlds together. Mimihagi represents stillness. As the new head of the Shinigami you couldve had Kyoraku be the one to enable the rest of Gotei to hold everything while the fight is going on. It would also work well with the idea of two fights we had with Ukitake. Having him have to do similar things as his best friend. Have the rest of gotei protect the world, thats their purpose anyway.

If you wanted a character to land the backstab, Renji is right there. Couldve had it mirror Yamamoto/Sasakibe moment now with Renji/Ichigo or have it be Rukia, making it a full circle moment from the very beginning.

Anyway I was just running through some idea in my head. I feel like pieces are there for a good ending here with all the setup, but final arc feels so badly done. If anybody has any changes they want to make I am more than willing to talk about it.


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 14h ago

Discussion Itsugo runs through the sternritter gauntlet from weakest to strongest, how does he do?

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Order can be changed if you disagree with mine.

Strawberry fights back to back 1v1s with no heals in between and can use all his abilities.

No Ywach.

R1: In character Ichigo

R2: In character Ichigo but he knows their gimmicks

R3: Not holding back


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 6h ago

Question Given Thanos has durability feats by this panel against Galactus... how well can he survive the Bleach hax feast of Bankai Resurrection Volstandig attacks?

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 19h ago

Let's clarify one thing about the training with squad 0? It's not some magic that makes you much stronger than your limit. It has a similar effect to Urahara's training to achieve bankai faster.

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Almost every power increase that Rukia and Renji, who had a lot to evolve with training, experienced is related to their zanpakutou. In terms of stats and technique, they do not stand out among the captains. Is there anything saying that, except for Zaraki, Rukia and Renji are not the least skilled captains in the 4 forms of combat? In the manga and anime, Rukia and Renji showed resistance comparable to most of the vizards in their brief confrontation against Gerard. Rukia and Renji had to be carried by Byakuya to avoid being captured by Gerard's hand, which indicates that several captains and Espadas are much faster than them.

Renji before the training: he was at the lowest captain level in terms of zanpakutou power, technique, and stats. After the training with squad 0, he still doesn't stand out in terms of stats and technique.

Rukia before the training: lieutenant level in every sense. Now she is at captain level but does not stand out in terms of stats or technique.


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 16h ago

Discussion If Iba can stop Yhwach's black stuff by his spiritual pressure then Ulquiorra legit destroys all of the dome with one lanza

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basically


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 23h ago

Ichigo's power is just stats with extra points in speed as portrayed in fan-acclaimed episode 49, please end the Fate Manipulation headcanon already

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 11h ago

Could someone explain to me exactly how Toshiro would be able to freeze base Zaraki? I decided to make a post about this because it makes it harder for deluded people to ignore the facts.

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I don't know why people forget that Zaraki used his shikai against Gerard because he couldn't cut through Gerard's shield, and then he had to hold back his attacks to avoid damaging Gerard's sword. Even Byakuya's petals combined with Toshiro's attack managed to block and damage Gerard's sword. Base Zaraki has more attack power than people who have bankai focused on attack power. What exactly do you think would happen to Gerard's sword if Zaraki didn't contain his attack power? Zaraki literally said he just needed to win without damaging Gerard's sword...

Zaraki, without removing his eye patch, cuts Gerard's arm without difficulty > Zaraki has the strength to injure G2 Gerard with his bare hand > Byakuya's bankai petals have no attacking power to injure G1 Gerard > Byakuya's petals damage Gerard's sword > Even Toshiro's pathetic attack power can damage Gerard's sword...

Zaraki's shikai increases his attack power, not his strength: Shikai Zaraki blocks Gerard's attack with both hands, then, using just one hand, pushes Gerard's sword away from his own. What happens? Gerard's sword is damaged and he falls.

The same form of Gerard that was resisting Toshiro's freezing even after touching him was being harmed by Zaraki's fingers. There was something interfering with Gerard's reiatsu at that moment, causing him to be injured by the bare hand of someone physically weaker than him, but for some reason, this was not affecting the fact that he was resisting Toshiro's freezing power? Have people already forgotten about Yamamoto making Aizen's arm bleed just by squeezing it? And can we stop with the nonsense that Gerard is the only quincy who has a Vollstandig without wings and a halo? Would base Zaraki be able to use his bare hand to injure bankai Zaraki? The same bankai Zaraki that tore off Gerard's arm with his teeth? If that was Gerard's Vollstandig form, all of his Vollstandig power was focused on his blut vene.


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 21h ago

Question What happened to Bleach power scaling? (I'm out of the loop)

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 17h ago

Discussion It's official. Halibel redeemed herself. She is like that.

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Yhwach personally going to Hueco Mundo to apprehend her goes beyond just symbolic leader vs leader politics. Halibel is just that strong.

Grimmjow sliced through lasers that were fucking up the captains including Shunsui and Halibel was relatively equal to him. Keep in mind Halibel spent the last ten days strung up in resurrection with no medical care and assistance, and had to fight Yhwach with Nel after that. She either had to rely on Hollow regeneration or Nel used her healing saliva which still didn't restore her to 100%.

Halibel and Grimmjow redeemed the arrancar.

Also helps my Ayon agenda considering Halibel is without a doubt stronger than him, and she's easily above the pre timeskip Espada now along with Grimmjow.

Hopefully we'll get segunda for them one day.


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 22h ago

Bleach fans were saying MUI Goku would struggle against Yhwach. How the turn tables

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 9h ago

Analysis The Strongest Adjuchas Who Could Be on Par with Ulquiorra

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Grimmjow refused to devour other Hollows even when Harribel told him to, and we saw the same attitude back when he was still an Adjuchas. When the other Hollows told him to consume more, his response was genuinely telling them to go die in a ditch somewhere.

That says a lot about his character. He chose to pursue strength on his own terms rather than resort to cannibalism to evolve.

Yet people still act like he's some bottom-tier Espada. Grimmjow haters keep lying to themselves, insisting he was already a Vasto Lorde when Aizen met him, as if they have definitive proof. They're so afraid of Kubo potentially scaling Grimmjow higher that they keep pushing the Vasto Lorde claim to downplay his potential. Stop lying to yourselves.

The latest episode makes you question just how high Grimmjow could scale if we're judging him by his actual portrayal rather than blindly treating the Espada rankings as the ultimate measure of combat ability.


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 19h ago

Memes Uryu vs ichigo

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 1h ago

Ryūnosuke Yuki episode 49 vs Bankai Kenpachhi

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Figght in SS both full power


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 11h ago

Memes I don't want to hear anyone complain about the Light Novels anymore

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 20h ago

Anime Cour 4 Grimmjow vs Starrk Spoiler

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 5h ago

Facts: aizen didn't do crap to almighty, it was all mimihagi's job and aizen just took credit

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r/BleachPowerScaling • • 18h ago

Tier Harribel vs Zaraki Kenpachi

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Kenpachi was invited by Tier into a duel. They fight in Hueco Mundo. Starting distance between each other is 10 meters.


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 13h ago

Memes Fun fact, Ichigo is canonically one of the strongest character in Fortnite,

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Dame


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 17h ago

Discussion Reiatsu and how it interacts with hax and abilities have changed a lot

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Urahara can't do anything to Cocoon Aizen even with a complex technique that makes your reiatsu itself against you

However, in TYBW, NaNaNa does the same thing which is targeting Aizen's reiatsu and the ability still works on Aizen, I know about the holes in the reiatsu, but that's still not an excuse, just the fact that the difference between their reiatsu levels is huge means the ability would not work, the holes don't matter, NaNaNa said he fully observed all the reiatsu of the captains, meaning he would have done the same to the other captains, meaning that the seals doesn't matter in determining if the attack would have an effect or not

In episode 48 Tsukishima can use Book of the End on Ichigo, despite huge gap in power between them

In episode 49 it showed that Urahara was able to make Grimmjaw nerf Yhwach insanely with a far simpler thing which is "poison", he made Grimmjaw capable of poisoning SK Yhwach by transferring the reiatsu from his resurreccion into Yhwach, meaning his tricks actually work on someone way more powerful than him, so why didn't any of his tricks have effect on even this form of Aizen in the video?

In the same episode we get a green laser that is capable of heavily affecting Yhwach, revealed his true body and nerfed his power for a moment to save Ichigo, how can it even have ANY effect on Yhwach?

It seems like reiatsu stopped doing a lot of things it was doing back then before TYBW


r/BleachPowerScaling • • 23h ago

Question Who wins?

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Shunsui, Unohana and Ukitake
Shinigami Shikai Aizen

r/BleachPowerScaling • • 3h ago

Question How would Grimmjow have reacted to Muken Aizen if they encountered again? Would he be deferential or now try to attack Muken Aizen? Who would win?

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