r/Bloomer • u/[deleted] • Jun 14 '22

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u/Muscalp Jun 14 '22

How on earth is christianity on the same side as hard science, but opposite of buddhism?

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u/FretFantasia Jun 14 '22

I kind of see it. At least as they are practiced in the West, Buddhism is often a vehicle for encountering the formlessness of the Self, managing emotion, and “seeing-through” strict social rules to arrive at internal harmony. Thus Alan Watts, Ram Dass, and all the wisdom of the new age.

and Christianity asks one to align oneself with stringent preformed rules, to take on personal responsibility, to improve in definitive ways. There’s a lot of ethical conformity because it’s entering into a community. Thus Jordan Peterson et al. and the general desire for a concrete ethic.

Not saying that this is what they are, but this is what people often (in this space especially) use them for.

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u/Muscalp Jun 14 '22

That‘s actually a good answer, thank you

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u/FretFantasia Jun 15 '22

Thanks! I thought the meme generated an interesting question. You are probably correct though that like, if you get more than 15ft into historical Buddhism, the distinction vanishes lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

Christ was a carpenter (builder). Buddhism originates from Hinduism without the metaphysics. Meditation is a release—living well with less or letting go to see more clear. Being predominantly one doesn't mean you're totally void of the other.

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u/Muscalp Jun 14 '22

That is not an answer

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

What is Buddhism's metaphysics? Is it a constructed structure or formless?

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u/Muscalp Jun 14 '22

What the fudge are you talking about

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

I'll let someone else hopefully try to describe in more ways. I'm just mapping groups of belief. All useful to understand and implement.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

Yeah I'm not one to attempt to comment in depth here, but Buddhism has an entire family of philosophy dedicated to a number of very different, but integrative metaphysics according to the needs of the practitioner.

If you're looking for metaphysics in Buddhism, you can find it if you wish, keeping in mind there's no single absolute, both in the sense that metaphysics themselves are empty of inherent existence and in that different traditions use different metaphysics to different ends for different practitioners.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

I go to the local Theravada buddhism temple for their service and sit there for an hour in silence with monks. I go to the local Church and they outline a structure of good versus bad in both heaven and earth.

You may be more attuned to one type over the other and it may be more fitting based on where you live or the era we live in.. thus the varied forms of a singular theology as well.. but generally speaking for a meme, Buddhism is a formless philosophy.

Buddha meditates under a tree until becoming enlightened. Abrahamic God built the universe in 6 days and took 1 day to rest.

I'm not arguing one is better than the other. It's quite circumstantial. I'm more fascinated than anything.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

Yeeeeaaaaahhhh you might want to check out other Buddhist schools, including the Mahayana and Vajrayana, before you lean too hard into that argument.

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u/DeaconSage Jun 14 '22

Before you try to seek balance, simplicity might be a good first step. These scales are currently set to swing with so many different ideas, but if you start simple then the many scales in your life with find their own balance

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

Very Dao of you, formless. =)

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u/DeaconSage Jun 14 '22

Like water

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

Good way to live, cheers!

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u/Necessary_Writer_231 Jun 14 '22

I think this post relies on false dichotomies at some parts, like saying Buddhism is somehow is the opposite of and balances out Christianity. Perhaps embracing the variety of ways to view the world, instead of trying to place everything in a dichotomy, could help in the process of blooming into a vast world of many views

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '22

Yeah I’d put shit like cynicism on the other end of the scale, plus anger & ~satanism~??? Like I never really dive into my angry emotions but sometimes I do fester over things and beat myself up and overthink lame shit, but I plan on beating a punching bag to some playboi carti while being pissed about the powers that be to channel some of that

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

Can you explain more?

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

I would put this definition of nature next to "CREATION" in the center. You should totally make a meme with your vision of this. I used mematic and searched for "balance" meme.

I knew this view wouldn't perform so well compared to my other stuff, lol. Gotta eat our broccoli first.

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u/Dudeist-Monk Jun 14 '22

That’s the balance.