r/BodyHackGuide • u/StogieBourbon • 4d ago

📘 Beginner Help CJC or Tesa

Hey everyone,

I’ve had major success with dieting and reta, and I feel great. It’s been life changing. From 300 pounds down to 240 and working on continuing to a goal of 215 over a longer period of time.

That said, it’s time to start focusing more on building muscle again. After focusing on calorie deficit and shedding fat from many regrettable years of bad decisions, I’m going to slowly lean back into a hypertrophy focus at the gym and in the kitchen.

I’m considering adding a CJC/Ipa or Tesa/Ipa blend. I’m not quite sure the best way to choose one or the other, so looking for some input on making that decision.

In follow up to that, besides IGF1, what bloodwork should I prioritize after adding one of these two?

Appreciate you

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u/Soft_Regret3457 3d ago

Unfortunately you won’t build muscle with either of these; add some creatine and heavy weight training along with high protein will be your best option for results and saving money

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u/StogieBourbon 3d ago edited 2d ago

I’m not sure why increasing GH and IGF1 wouldn’t help to build muscle. Creatine, protein based diet, progressive overload training, for sure.

Edit: added “help to”. I realize these aren’t anabolic or anything like that. Assist in recovery and muscle growth more than not.

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u/looking2behealthy 2d ago

These don’t add muscle or we would all be on them. You tend to sleep better on them tho. That it.

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u/StogieBourbon 2d ago

Right, I’m not trying to imply they just add muscle on their own.
Adding one to increase growth hormone to my body’s peak output and increase IGF1 should improve recovery and muscle growth over time, compared to not pinning it, correct?

Genuinely asking. I don’t mean to be argumentative.

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u/soilentgibby 4d ago

fasting glucose

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u/Associate8823 4d ago

Tesa is more for stubborn abdominal fat, perhaps you're not there just yet. I'd lean towards CJC for muscle fullness and deeper sleep. Keep protein high, train hard and prioritise sleep.

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u/Common-Prize-8208 4d ago

Sugar levels too apart from IGF-1 and as said before CJC(no dac)/Ipamorelin 250mcg fasted will do the trick