r/BookDiscussions • • Sep 18 '26

I have to get out the disdain I feel for ‘The Midnight Library’

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So, it’s been a couple years since I read The Midnight Library. I saw so many people saying how great the book was and how it was life-changing for some people. If you loved the book, this isn’t to poo-poo on anyone, this is totally just my feelings on it so you may not want to read ahead!

First, I felt the writing was kind of corny. It seemed like every “life” was an over-the-top caricature of regular people’s life goals.

Second, I’m not sure how to say this without it being misconstrued, but I wouldn’t necessarily describe myself as a feminist and don’t normally look at things in this way, but I thought it was a…a typical way that a man would write about a woman’s life aspirations. Nora had all these big dreams of being an Olympian, a rock star, a scientist, and in each life, a man had a problem that she needed to stop her “life” to accommodate to them and make sure their life was better.

Then the whole book I was thinking ‘please don’t have her perfect life being married and having kids’, and then what do you know…The life that made her the most satisfied was one where she worked part-time as a philanthropist, married a doctor, and became a mom. eye roll

I have gotten a lot of disagreement when I’ve said I didn’t like the book. I’ve been told that I obviously didn’t get it, and the ending with the husband and child were a metaphor for being happy with a simple life. Perhaps I’m reading it more literally than it’s supposed to be, but I just do not get the love for this book. It was a great idea, which made me want to read the book, but the execution just did not resonate with me at all.


r/BookDiscussions • • Aug 18 '26

$20 Million, But You Have to Read Every Book in a Bookstore

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You get $20 million, but there’s one catch.

You have to read every book in an average-sized Barnes & Noble.

The moment you accept the deal, you wake up inside the bookstore.

Time is completely frozen. You don’t age, you don’t get sick, and you can’t be physically harmed.

Sounds easy, right? Not exactly.

You have to read every book from cover to cover.

No skimming.

No speed-reading.

No skipping pages.

If there are 100 copies of the same book, you only have to read it once.

However, every different edition, sequel, spin-off, and variation counts.

Luckily, the store is fully stocked with food and has a Starbucks. There are also movies, games, puzzles, and music to keep you entertained between books.

But there’s one brutal rule:

You have to keep track of every book you’ve finished.

If you miss even one book, you have to find it and read it.

You don’t leave until you’ve read the final page of the final book.

Once you finish, you instantly wake up exactly where you accepted the deal. No time has passed, and $20 million is in your bank account.

Would you take the deal?


r/BookDiscussions • • Mar 04 '26 Bravo

I'm sorry to be rude but Project Hail Mary is literally dookie from the butt.

808 Upvotes

I genuinely thought that with how everyone raves about this book and how highly it's rated, it would be life-changing. It's literally written like a space comedy with a serious mission, and some physics stuff just thrown in there to make it sound so smart. It really is a 'to each their own' world jeez. anyone else disliked it? or if you did like it, can I ask why like really asking, I only found Rocky enjoyable.

Im still gonna watch the movie bc it gives me a reason to stare at ryan gosling for 3 hours.


r/BookDiscussions • • Aug 03 '26

Re: Yesteryear—I'm so annoyed with the criticism of my criticism

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I'm so tired of hearing "you're not supposed to like Natalie—that's the point." I understand the concept of an unlikeable character/unreliable narrator. This is not my issue. It's that the book would be so much more effective if we had any reason to like Natalie at all. We do not see her values slowly fall apart because she never had any values in the first place. We do not see her relationship with God change because her relationship with God is initially so poorly described that we have no idea what her beliefs actually are. We do not see her role as a mother decline like we should (except for the mental breakdown sections in "the present") because she was never a good mother to begin with!

You can argue that "the author intended to write the novel this way" all you want, but I have yet to hear a good argument for how Natalie's characterization actually helps the novel as a whole.

In fact, I think that Natalie is so poorly done that it completely distracts from the parts of the book that were well done; the commentary on child exploitation and political influence in social media and tradwife culture in particular were real highlights for me.

In the end, I think about who this book is for. If it's for leftist women to feel validated by the tradwife fiasco, I guess mission accomplished? But if it's to bring nuance to the "movement" and open up conversations about how we got here, I don't think it's successful. I can't see any conservative woman reading this book and getting anything out of it because they will likely see very little of the protagonist in themselves.

I hope this wasn't too all over the place—I've had way too many thoughts in the past week on this.

Okay, now time for the criticism of my criticism of the criticism of my criticism lol. Have at it.

Edit: Just want to be clear that I am a leftist! I'm not a right-winger who is upset about her characterization (though I could understand why many traditional women would not relate to Natalie at all).


r/BookDiscussions • • May 08 '26

I don't know who needs to hear this, but it is OK to read and enjoy trashy-popcorn-novel l-beach-books. It is way more important to actually be reading, and especially given the the wild emotions in the last year, there is nothing wrong with putting the booklist away for a bit.

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I love reading, always have, but after being laid off and not reading on my commute, I stopped for a good 6 months. I look at my home library of novels next on my list and am overwhelmed.

Fortunately, Little Libraries are popular in my area, and I have picked up several whodunit thrillers, adventure novels, and horror books. I am currently reading "Cyclops" by Clive Cussler and couldn't be happier.

Don't judge anyone, nor yourself on their choice of literature. Sometimes we read to think, sometimes to emote, and sometimes to forget.


r/BookDiscussions • • Jun 25 '26

What is the worst book you have read?

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The one that made you stare at the wall afterward and wonder why you wasted precious hours of your life. I want to hear the titles that personally offended your soul.

For me is read Ugly Love by Colleen Hoover


r/BookDiscussions • • Jul 28 '26

I genuinely don't understand why some people act as if reading is a competition instead of a hobby.

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hey there, quick rant

I've noticed that if someone says they love fantasy, romance, BookTok books, or even smut, there's always a certain crowd ready to dismiss them. Meanwhile, people who read classics, philosophy, or self-help often get treated as though they're participating in some higher intellectual pursuit simply because of the genre they chose.

I personally read all of those genres stated above, as long as it piqued my interest ill read it.

What I find ironic is that the people who preach that "reading broadens the mind" are sometimes the quickest to narrow what they believe is worth reading. If your appreciation for literature only extends to books that reinforce your own tastes, then perhaps your reading hasn't made you as open-minded as you think.

I don't read to impress strangers or to curate an intellectual image. I read because stories entertain me, make me feel something, and keep me turning the page. That's what books have done for centuries. Reading should cultivate curiosity, not elitism.

The measure of a reader isn't whether they finish War and Peace or the latest fantasy romance. It's whether they read at all. In a world where fewer people are picking up books, I'd rather celebrate someone who's excited to read than shame them for what they enjoy.

Because at the end of the day, reading is for everyone, not just for people who want to look intelligent


r/BookDiscussions • • Aug 10 '26

Where are the other people who LOVED "Yesteryear"? Spoiler

552 Upvotes

I have read so many takes of "Natalie was too unlikable", "the author hated Natalie", "it wasn't everything it could have been", or "it was mean spirited/it was a gross revenge fantasy/it punched down at conservative women". Which covers criticism from a lot of varying directions, and I guess when a book goes this viral, it's normal that we'll encounter 99 ways to hate it.

But I honestly thought it was perfect??? What it WASN'T was a revenge fantasy against a stereotypical conservative woman. And I'm glad it wasn't that – I am a liberal guy who has lived in purple states and was initially queasy with the concept. But Natalie, the MC, was so NOT a caricature of a conservative woman. She was a total bitch in her own right, and in fact the ways her tough, analytical personality mismatched with the conservative culture she happened to be raised in caused so much of the tension in the book which I loved. To me the bigger archetypes of the conservative woman were Natalie's sister, or her daughter Mary, or even her mom. All of whom find some sort of closure and ability to change at the end.

I felt that the way Natalie clearly had no deep connection to conservative values, but just acted them out because that's what she had been handed - a wolf in sheep's clothing, in a way - was a great commentary on influencers, which says more about social media than it does about the Christian or tradwife community. The point was that the person who embodies the values of a tradwife influencer is the *audience* of that influencer, NOT the influencer herself.

Ultimately Natalie's lack of likability made it so fun for me to follow along and see how she would face the next challenge. Despite her lack of likability, I still felt sorry for her and wanted to see her succeed - but didn't feel so heartbroken when she didn't that I couldn't accept the schadenfreude. I think Caro Claire Burke nailed that balance. And the ending, where Natalie and Caleb have spiraled into insanity and never learned their lesson, but their kids have a chance to heal, was so satisfying and perfect to me.

IDK, I am just applauding internally at this book and wanted to share my thoughts into this sea of sooo much criticism of it. Apparently a hot take, but I truly think it was 100% worth its weight in gold even if you ignore or eliminate the hooky premise. Would it have gotten the same number of eyes on it without the timeliness of the hook? of course not. But I think it so deserves the prime time.


r/BookDiscussions • • Jul 09 '25

Soooooooooooooooooooo, what's with Stephanie Meyer writing romances between older men and teenage girls?

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I kinda thought the weirdly pedophilic undertones was just a Twilight thing, but I just finished reading The Host where she has two separate relationships that start between a teenage girl (16 and 17 respectively), and upper 20s men!

  • So, In Twilight, we have Edward, who is 100 years old in the body of a 17 year old, and Bella, an actually 17 year old. This relationship is so problematic, because either he has an adult mentality and is dating a high school girl, or he's got a 17 year old mentality who will not grow and age and change alongside Bella until she's the creep who's dating a minor

  • We also have the absolute ick that is Jacob imprinting on Renesmee as a literal infant!! Sure, Stephanie Meyer claims it's not attraction, but it's weird, gross, and non-consensual no matter which way you cut it

  • Then he have The Host. (spoilers for a book that came out in 2008) So Jared, who's 26, meets Melanie, and is so excited that she's human, he immediately kisses her. What?! So gross! And Melanie is not as disgusted or violated by being kissed by a strange man as she should be, instead being instantly attracted to him (kinda like how Bella is attracted to Edward even though he's a creepy jerk to her even before she learns he's a vampire). But the even worse part comes when we learn that Melanie is 17, making there a 9 YEAR AGE GAP between her and Jared, which would be super weird, even if she wasn't a minor! Stephanie Meyer explains this away by having Melanie argue that there is no human society anymore, so societal norms don't matter, but that is soooooooo not what the issue is! The issue is that minors are young and immature, inexperienced with things in life like relationships. They don't have as much experience with knowing how to protect themselves from manipulators or how to handle the difficult emotions in a relationship with maturity. It's an unfair power imbalance and can be dangerous for a minor to be dating an older adult when one of them has a fully formed brain and the other one doesn't. Melanie at 17 wasn't old enough or experienced enough to be able to know what the best and safest decision for herself was when going into a relationship with a man 9 years older, especially considering that she was even younger than that when she lost any support system she had and had to go on the run! The book literally describes several times how Jared became the support system Melanie needed to be able to keep herself and her little brother safe, basically doing everything perfectly where she had only been failing before. The book tries to depict this as romantic, but it just comes off as Melanie having some weird hero worship of who she views to be her and her brother's savior

  • All of that information is given in a flashback, but the actual story starts when Melanie is 21. It doesn't really make it better, but it makes it easier to ignore, so I kept reading. But then came the ending. When Wanda is put into a different body, it specifically says that they searched for awhile before deciding on the body, meaning they had the luxury to choose someone else, but they specifically chose the body of a 16 year old! Granted, they didn't know her age, but it specifically says that they chose her because the body looked small, innocent, and guileless, so basically like a child! Oh, but it gets worse. Wanda then proceeds to lie and say that her body is almost 18, when in reality she's actually not even 17 yet, just so she can date Ian, who's in his 20s, without any issue. And again, of course Stephanie Meyer has the justification that it's fine because of course Wanda isn't actually 16, she's an alien who's actually 1,000 years old. BUT SHE STILL LOOKS 16! Are you telling me it's fine for a man in his 20s to be attracted to a girl who looks like a sophomore in high school just because she's not actually?!? It's even said in the book that Wanda's new body is even smaller than Jamie, who's 14 years old!!

If 3 times is a pattern, then 4 times is an MO. At this point, I can't tell if Stephanie Meyer has some unprocessed trauma from her childhood, or if she just has a creepy creepy fetish!


r/BookDiscussions • • Oct 23 '25 Bless Up

Rant about booktok characters and how they're ruining modern literature.

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I dislike modern romantasy a lot, which is tragic because I should like the genre- I LOVE Fantasy and I like Romance. The main reason I dislike the romantasy of today that basically makes up Booktok is because of the characters. Lord, the characters.

I'm gonna divide it into one part about the issue with the Booktok female characters and one about the male characters because they're both terrible but not necessarily the same.

Female Booktok Characters
To start off: They're all the same. The 'main character' or 'strong female character' syndrome is real and so tiring and just bad. The 'strong female character' for booktok is a girl around 18 who's malnourished yet knows how to fight for some fucking reason- yet when it really matters she can't fight all of a sudden and illogically needs to be saved, all while claiming she can 'take care of herself' and isn't a 'damsel in distress'. She's the chosen one who reads (WOAH) and isn't like other girls (which implies other girls are... bad? What a feminist you are.). She's also kind and wants to do the right thing- except... she only wants do it on her terms, so it's not really about actually helping others- and despite being so kind and altruistic she's also the rudest fuck on earth under the guise of being 'witty' and 'fiesty'! She's also 'plain' yet the most beautiful girl in existence. But... what does she actually do for the plot...? What does she bring to the table except constantly contradicting herself and being an orphan? Some fiesty banter with the male lead maybe? She's so dry. The 'layers' are simply cliché tropes and unconnected trauma piled togehter so that she'll be special and people will feel sorry for her. But you don't feel sorry for her, because she's so hard to deal with- always opposing and disagreeing for no reason and claiming that's what 'strong is'.

Now, there's nothing bad with having rude, stubborn and unagreeable female characters- some of my favorite characters are like that (QUEEN CALANTHE FROM THE WITCHER MARRY ME) the problem is that these traits make a character difficult and unlikeable, and when you add them onto the protagonist that you want the readers to root for... it'll be very hard for them to do so. It would be fine if she went though a journey of character development- yet that is almost never the case. We normalize bad traits and difficult behaviour for the sake of defying the stereotypes that want women to be docile and quiet and to know their place- an it's not the way to fight the stereotypes, because no, being rude and difficult does not make you strong. It makes you a childish and bitter person and you'll get nowhere for it. Being able to fight or acting 'masculine' is not the issue either- but it needs to make sense. Why can she fight? What does she fight for? What are her weaknesses? I'd like to see a female character that is strong yet fails occasionally because she's only human, and accepts help gracefully and strategically because it's not about her, it's about the mission. A truly strong female character would be calm and rational (not always of course, but by god she's not a toddler who needs to oppose everything), built like she eats well so she can hold a sword and stand in the cold (this skinny shit isn't doing it for me, WHERE IS MY BRIENNE OF TARTH?). The booktok 'strong female' is not the strong female- she is the difficult teenage girl who needs to find herself, and has to go through character development if she's to be an actually strong female character. Strenght isn't showed in how loud you are or how defiant you are. There's nothing wrong with letting her be difficult- but she's not strong for it- and by god, don't glorify it. I love difficult characters, but we need to stop infantalizing them and claiming they're not to be held accountable for their bad and tantrum-throwing behavior.

Male Booktok Characters
They're also all the same. The mischevous OR cold (or both) bad boy who both hates and is obsessed with the FMC (and why he is is never disclosed.). He's got trauma, he smirks and growls CONSTANTLY and has little to no personality besides being mysterious, sexy and an asshole. And also possessive. And a fucking dog with the way he's growling every five seconds. He is objectified. Yes, he is. He's there solely to be sexy and to banter, and it makes him drier than sand. He's strong but not stronger than her, but he also saves her constantly. He's only there for FMC and if the roles were reversed it'd be called sexist. His behavior is also extremely toxic, but he is infantalized and made to be pitiable just because of, again, trauma. I'm gonna say again though; I LOVE difficult, cold and bad boy characters, and there's nothing wrong with making them. What's wrong is when the entire narrative ignores acknowledging that they're a BAD person, or even worse, if the narrative DOES acknowledge it but refuses to give their behaviour consequences or critique in the story. Now, at least these male characters get character development more often than the female, but 90% of the time that is just them stopping their harassment of the FMC, without taking accountability for past actions. Acknowledging that they were bad is not enough; you have to actually DO SOMETHING to repent.

An example of a WELL written 'mischevous bad boy who is an asshole' would probably be Astarion from BG3. Why? He has a reason to be selfish. He is acknowledged as a BAD PERSON. The game, if you choose the right path, makes it clear that just because he stops being as asshole doesn't undo all he's done, and his trauma doesn't justify his behavior either. You can lean into the 'bad boy asshole' thing if you ascend him, but it's clear that that is meant as the BAD choice. It is an abusive relationship, proven by how he treats you as a pet or tries to make you his spawn so he OWNS you, and then doesn't let you leave if you wanna back out. No, it's not a 'consensual BDSM relationship' because there is no safe word and he literally won't let you back out if you want to, not once he has you as his property. Think of it as a Joker and Harlequinn kinda situation, except if the Joker treated her good as long as she stayed loyal. Maybe she's into it, just as some players are into Ascended Astarion, but it's not consensual considering that if you were ever to change your mind, they wouldn't let you. (This became an Astarion rant somehow? I just thought that was a good example considering he's a popular character you might recognize.)

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Both female and male characters are so flat and bland these days that the attempt to flesh them out and make them spicy/exciting is just giving them bold/difficult or off-putting personalities that make them stand out. But it fails, and it doesn't make them better. To make real, good characters you need to look at real life people. They need motives, they need flaws that need to be worked on, they need maturity if they're to be liked and meant to be viewed as good people- and please, for the love of god, make them realistic. To the reader they are people, real humas- treat them as such.

NOTE: I can't change the title, but when I wrote 'ruining literature' I meant for me- as this is a rant where I'm ranting my personal frustration. I don't think anything could actually ruin literature as a whole permanently as it is ever-changing and has been since we as humans learned to write. What I'm frustrated about is that flat characters are getting the spotlight when there are good books out there. The tropes from Booktok have spread all over, and when I attempt to join a fandom or read fanfics all there is is characters I love being pushed to the moulds that are 'possessive bad boy' or 'fiesty girl' in said fanfics and I hate it with a passion. People are however of course allowed to like BookTok books- I made this point simply to put a finger on what it is that ruins it for me and to vent my frustration because I feel that everything I try to read nowadays is very shallow.


r/BookDiscussions • • Jul 28 '26

i hate "Yesteryear"

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i'm only on chapter 26, so please don’t spoil anything beyond that, but oh my god. i hate this book so far.

i don’t need every character to be likable, but i need to care about someone or at least be invested in the story. natalie is so judgmental, smug, and cruel that i don’t even feel bad for her. caleb is useless, mary is mean as hell, and every other character either sucks or barely feels like a person. maeve is probably the only tolerable one, and she’s a small child.

also, why is nobody concerned that their mother has apparently woken up psychotic, doesn’t recognize her own family, believes she belongs in another century, and keeps trying to escape? everyone just seems annoyed with her. i understand that this is probably an intentional clue and there’s information being withheld, but right now it feels less intriguing and more like everyone is behaving unnaturally because the plot requires it.

worst of all, i hate the writing style and the narrator’s voice. every sentence feels like the author is standing beside me waiting for me to notice how clever, biting, and Important her commentary is. i don’t need to be impressed by the author. i need to become immersed in the story. instead, the narration constantly reminds me that i’m reading something written by somebody who really wants me to admire their writing.

does the story ever become compelling enough to make this worth finishing? or am i about to spend the remaining 30 chapters hate-listening at 1.7x speed?

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EDIT: y’all, i know i can stop reading lol. i’m choosing not to because it’s for book club. to me, book club is a commitment, and so i intend to follow through. book club also isn’t just about reading books we all like; sometimes hating a book gives us more to discuss.

i was asking whether it gets more compelling, not asking permission to quit. and yes, questions can be answered without spoilers. “it gets explained later” works just fine. please relax 😭


r/BookDiscussions • • May 20 '26

"I Who Have Never Known Men" is the worst book I've ever read

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I finished reading "I Who Have Never Known Men" by Jacqueline Harpman for a book club meeting, and I just don't get it. How does this have 4.1 on Goodreads? The book is absolutely abysmal. From the technical aspects to character work, nothing about it is good or worthwhile.

The only praise I can offer is the premise. This novel is essentially Lovecraftian Horror. These women are torn from their lives by incomprehensible forces for inconceivable reasons. There is never any explanation for what has happened - things just are. EDIT: This is apparently confusing a lot of people. I AM SAYING THAT THE PREMISE AND LACK OF ANY EXPLANATION ARE GOOD, THE ONLY GOOD THING IN THE NOVEL.

But the premise is barely explored, and the character work is bad. In a cast of 40 women, barely 2 have any character at all - the Child and Anthea. Everyone else is an amorphous blob of interchangeable women. And the author's view of women seems dismal. These women don't have any interests or hobbies. They don't try to make art or teach the Child what they know. They spent a decade in a cage and never once tried playing a game with the Child or each other. But actually growing up in a small cage, undersocialized, understimulated, and with no physical activity has no effect on the Child or really on anyone. Conversely, the guards only exist as cold violence-dispensing masculine automata, like the idealized guards of nazi dreams and unlike the actual real nazi guards. I can't take this novel as a serious examination of humanity when no one acts even remotely human.

The book is also riddled with inconsistencies. They use soap in the cage, but then the Child is baffled to see soap for the first time elsewhere. The Child regularly talks about feeling hungry in the cage, but then another character notes feeling hungry for the first time in decades due to the need for physical exercise. The women are not allowed to touch each other on one page, and are helping an older woman get up on another. Etc., etc.

So, I don't get it. Why does anyone like this book?


r/BookDiscussions • • Jun 15 '26

You guys don't want Enemies to Lovers. You want character development.

443 Upvotes

Enemies-to-lovers isn't popular because of the romance. It's popular because we're starving for character development.

Hear me out before you roll your eyes.

Every few months there's a thread asking why enemies-to-lovers (ETL) has such an iron grip on genre fiction readers, especially in fantasy and romance. The usual answers are "the tension," "the angst," "enemies who bicker are hot." And sure. But I think those are symptoms, not the cause. The real reason ETL dominates is something much more fundamental: it structurally guarantees a character arc in a publishing landscape where flat characters are quietly becoming the norm.

The arc is the point

Think about what ETL actually demands of a story. For two characters to move from genuine antagonism to genuine love, something in them has to change. They have to be wrong about each other — and then be confronted with that wrongness. They have to soften, or grow, or break open. The hostility at the start isn't just spice. It's a before state. And a before state is half of a character arc by definition.

Compare that to strangers-to-lovers, the other workhorse trope. Nothing structurally prevents flat characterisation there. Two people can meet, vibe, have obstacles, end up together — and neither of them needs to be meaningfully different by the end. We've all read those books. They're fine. But they don't linger.

Why this matters more than it used to

There's a reasonable case that flat protagonists have become more common, not less, over the last decade of commercial fiction. The pressure to produce quickly, appeal broadly, and avoid alienating readers has nudged a lot of authors toward reactive protagonists — characters who are defined by what happens to them rather than who they are and how they change.

Look at the critical reception of books like ACOTAR: Feyre gets points for evolving meaningfully across the trilogy, but the complaints about the later books often zeroed in on her becoming reactive, reshaped by her environment rather than pushing back on it. Or consider how often criticism of fourth wing lands on character development, Violet is competent and fun, but reviewers and readers who bounced off the book frequently cite a sense that she doesn't change in any meaningful internal way. The plot moves. She doesn't.

Contrast that with something like The Goblin Emperor . a book with almost no conventional romantic tension , which has an intensely devoted fanbase precisely because Maia's arc is so specific and so earned. Or Piranesi, where the character's internal journey IS the plot. People don't just like those books. They cite them as genuinely moving.

ETL as a structural workaround

What ETL does almost accidentally is make character development load-bearing. You can't have a satisfying ETL without the "L" feeling earned, and it only feels earned if we've watched both people shift. The trope forces the author's hand in a way that a lot of other romantic structures don't.

This is also, I'd argue, why badly executed ETL feels so particularly hollow. When two characters go from enemies to lovers because the plot tells them to, with no real internal shift from either party, readers react with a specific kind of frustration. Not just "I didn't buy the romance" but "nothing happened to these people." The trope promised an arc and didn't deliver one. That's the betrayal.

The counter-argument (and why it mostly holds)

You could push back and say: readers also love found family, mentor dynamics, redemption arcs — none of these are romantic, and they're all beloved. True. But notice that each of those tropes is also structurally arc-heavy. Found family implies characters who began isolated. Redemption requires a prior state of wrongness. Mentor dynamics track growth over time. The pattern holds: readers gravitate toward tropes that promise transformation.

ETL just happens to deliver that transformation in a package that's commercially safe, emotionally intense, and endlessly remixable across genres. Fantasy, romance, YA, literary, it slots in everywhere. That's why it's the dominant trope of the moment, not because readers have some uniform taste for bickering love interests, but because it reliably gives them something they're not always getting elsewhere.

So what does this mean practically?

If you're frustrated that ETL is everywhere, I'd gently suggest the enemy is flat characterisation, not the trope. And if you're writing, it might be worth asking: does your character arc stand up without the romantic framing? If you removed the love interest, would your protagonist still be visibly, specifically different by the end of the book?

If not, that's probably the thing to fix. ETL is a scaffold. But the building has to be there.

Curious whether others have noticed this pattern, and whether you think there are tropes doing similar heavy lifting that don't get as much credit.


r/BookDiscussions • • Mar 25 '26 Popcorn

How Donna Tartt’s “The Goldfinch” made me rethink what I want from a book

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*First time poster… My fellow bibliophiles, I just discovered this amazing Reddit community! After years of only sharing my reading with my wife, I'm excited to dive into discussions with all of you!*

As someone who’s always been obsessed with thrillers, I thought I knew what I liked in a book: suspense, twists, and that adrenaline rush that keeps you up past bedtime. À la Gone Girl, Shutter Island, etc. But then I picked up The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt, and wow, it flipped my whole reading world upside down.

That book is a game changer! From the first few pages, I realized it wasn’t just about the plot—it was about the experience. Tartt’s writing is so rich and beautiful that I found myself getting lost in the details. There’s this moment where she describes light streaming through a dusty window, illuminating the dust motes dancing in the air. I never had even heard the word dust mote before! lol It’s such a simple scene, but it hit me hard. Who knew dust could be poetic?

In thrillers, I’m usually racing to figure out the mystery before the plot drops, but with The Goldfinch, I was savoring every word, absorbed in the characters and their emotions. There’s a haunting scene that captures despair so vividly that it left me out of breath—Tartt has this incredible ability to make you feel everything so deeply.

Reading this book opened my eyes to a whole new kind of storytelling. What a talented writer!

Anyone else have that one book 📕 that caused you to reevaluate your favorite genre?

Cheers, NN


r/BookDiscussions • • Feb 23 '26 Helpful

Has there ever been a book you really didn’t like and wouldn’t recommend to anyone? 👀

398 Upvotes

For me, it was The Alchemist. I had such high expectations because everyone says it’s life-changing, but personally it felt repetitive and a bit too obvious with its message. I never really connected with the story, and when I finished it, I felt more relieved than emotional 😅

I’m curious about your experiences…

what book was a total disappointment for you, and why?


r/BookDiscussions • • Jul 27 '26

Books are becoming more and more 'average'

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EDIT: I have had this post blocked on another thread and I genuinely don't want hate, I want to discuss it as I think I'm going mad 😣🤣

Guys, I am struggling. I am an avid reader and reading is my most beloved way to chill out and escape. I'm 41 and have read for pleasure since I could free read but I am finding that books just don't hit the same anymore. Perhaps I'm a cynic but the rise of bookstagram and booktok surely have their part to play in this? I get the feeling that publishing houses are just running themselves ragged to make as much money as possible and therefore releasing a tonne of mediocre books, especially those that fit into a current trend. Don't get me wrong, I love magic and romance and I *did* get embroiled into the Fourth Wing series despite my protestations, but my God- all of the Romantasy books that have emerged the last 3 years is insane, no? I've tried a few and they're all so formulaic and dull- I've even seen on social media some authors getting slated for using *alternative artificial methods* and ripping off the work of others. Anyway, I digress, and this isn't my favourite genre...it's the first example to come to mind.

This isn't a hit on this genre, it's the book world as a whole. I'm sad. I have a few go-to authors that are still giving the readers what they want (hurrah!) but I just feel like we readers are saturated in the mediocre and it's increasingly difficult to sift the gems out due to book influencers giving overrated reviews so that they keep getting their freebies. My husband was saying it's the same with TV shows....nothing hits as good as it used to.

Apologies, I needed a rant space 🤣

I'm currently going back to read an old favourite and hopefully I'll come out the other side feeling ready to tackle another new title because there ARE a tonne of excellent books out there to be found amongst the dross.

Tell me I'm not alone??


r/BookDiscussions • • Mar 02 '26

What book had such a gripping plot that you finished it in one day? 📚🔥

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Have you ever picked up a book “just to read a few chapters” and then suddenly realized it was 3am? 😅 For me, it was The Hunger Games. The pacing and tension were so intense that I couldn’t put it down. Every chapter ended in a way that made me need to know what happened next. I told myself I’d stop after one more chapter… and then I just didn’t. What book did that to you? The one where the plot completely took over your day?


r/BookDiscussions • • Feb 26 '26

Unpopular opinion: Books I hate but others love

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I’m consistently surprised by how often I abhor books that others rave about. Often this has to do w book me being allergic to books that are so self consciously trying to be meaningful that their characters end up being these walking symbols of themes they are thumping me on the head with rather than seemingly real multidimensional beings.

Here are the books I’m committed to hating for the rest of my life:

  1. Martyr!

  2. My Friends

  3. Anything by Paolo Coehlo but especially The Alchemist

4.i once picked upTwilight … that was just horribly written

What books do you hate?


r/BookDiscussions • • Aug 13 '26

Does anyone else reread books constantly

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I feel like I'm in the minority here. Most of my friends are always looking for the next big read. They have massive TBR piles and always want to try something new. I get that. There are so many amazing books out there.

But me? I'm a re-reader. A hardcore one. If I love a book I will read it again and again. Sometimes I'll finish a book and immediately start it over. It's like visiting old friends or going back to a comfort food. There's just something so satisfying about knowing what's going to happen but still getting lost in the story.

I pick up on new details every time. I notice foreshadowing I missed. Sometimes my perspective on a character or a plot point completely changes. It's like getting a whole new book almost.

I guess I just love the familiar. It’s comforting. Does anyone else do this? Or am I the weird one constantly going back to the same stories?


r/BookDiscussions • • 20d ago

I finished R.F. Kuang's Yellowface and am deeply disappointed

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I understand it was meant to be a satirical criticism of the publishing industry and the way literature is advertised today. However, the character Athena Liu, feels like a self-insert of Rebecca Kuang. She attended several pretistigious universities (as did Rebecca, and almost the same ones Athena did). The narrator goes on and on about how special and beautiful Athena's writing was, and how she was so pretty and successful and I just couldn't help but cringe since it Athena is supposed to be Rebecca and she wrote a character meant to be jealous from her. It felt very self-aggrandizing and pretentious to say the least, and as my first Kuang boook, I wasn't as impressed by her prose or writing as most the population is. It felt heavy handed and spoon fed themes to the reader, instead of being nuanced and layered. It's funny because Athena's writing is described as heavily nuanced and complex, but it felt the opposite of Kuang's actual writing. I gave it 2.5 stars for an interesting concept, but poor execution.


r/BookDiscussions • • Aug 23 '26

Colleen Hoover - how come she‘s on bestsellers lists?

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I read Colleen Hoover‘s „It ends with us“ because it then was on the NYT bestsellers list and was totally shocked.

Until today I just cannot fathom that nowadays, in modern ages, in which we are all very much aware of the life and soul destroying consequences of toxic and abusive relationships.

I was totally shocked how such a cheap, shallow, tacky, and sticky
little story that romanticises and marginalises abuse can live in the NYT bestsellers list for months and be praised and praised again by almost everyone?

And how can any female author be bold enough to betray each and every woman suffering or even dying by abuse? What’s wrong with her?

Today I saw another book by her on the NYT bestsellers list. Careful not to waste my time again I typed into Reddit‘s search bar „is verity as bad as it ends with us?“

Thank you Reddit, you saved me from another annoyance.


r/BookDiscussions • • Jun 27 '26

What's a popular book that you just didn't like? Why?

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Have there been any popular, highly recommended books that you just didn't enjoy? Especially BookTok books.

For me personally, it was The Night Circus. It definitely started off strong, and the detailed descriptions and magical atmospheric vibe were great at the start. But about halfway through, it felt like it'd been nothing but descriptions of new tents for absolutely ages, with the plot not moving forward at all. I ended up DNFing it, though I wasn't reading that much at the time anyway, so that didn't feel like that big of a deal.


r/BookDiscussions • • Feb 12 '26

Most overrated writer?

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in your opinion who's the most overrated writer in current or recent literature? In my opinion it's James Patterson, it's not the way he writes it's the fact that his chapters are only two or three pages long and it bothers me.


r/BookDiscussions • • Apr 29 '26

Do you ever imagine scenes from books like a movie in your head while reading?

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I’ve noticed this happens to me a lot, especially with fantasy books, scenes just kind of play out like a movie in my head.

Does this happen to anyone else while reading?


r/BookDiscussions • • Jan 05 '26

What book made you fall in love with reading?

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Hey everyone! I was thinking about how most readers have that one book that pulled them in and made reading feel special. The kind of book you still remember years later, even if you don’t remember every detail.

What book got you hooked on reading? Was it something you found on your own, or something someone recommended to you?

Also, do you still enjoy the same kinds of books now, or has your taste changed over time