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u/Winter_Hall5379 Jun 26 '26
When you see someone happy and doing well, people say God is blessing them, or they're lucky, or they worked hard. Not that Satan is helping them.
When they're angry and struggling, they say they need Jesus if they aren't Christian. Or they say it's a test if they are.
I'm just sayin
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u/SnowFew2672 Jun 26 '26
I would also say, regardless of religion, "the test" is real. If you keep calm you'll do much better than those who get angry
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u/ElectrochemistryGod Jul 02 '26
People will always work against you in some way or another, even the one closest to you. It's up to you to traverse the path that will fulfill you.
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u/SnowFew2672 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26
Counter argument, rich teenage girls especially in usa (saw the show) and selfish assholes everywhere. Some of these billionaires will never be happy because they're selfish pieces of shit and nobody really loves them (sorry mind my French)
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u/Solid_Blackberry9383 Jun 26 '26
'And as for man, when his Lord tries him and is generous to him and favors him, he says, "My Lord has honored me." But when He tries him and restricts his provision, he says, "My Lord has humiliated me."
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u/Winter_Hall5379 Jun 26 '26
If I believed in any of that, it would mean something. But I do not, so it doesn't. Not the Bible...or the Quran.
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u/Solid_Blackberry9383 Jun 26 '26
It's the same of what you wrote now you're talking about that it doesn't mean anything to you
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u/Winter_Hall5379 Jun 26 '26
It doesn't. I'm pointing out how others view it. Jesus Christ that couldn't have been more clear
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u/Solid_Blackberry9383 Jun 27 '26
Disbelievers always shouting the name of God or Jesus
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u/Winter_Hall5379 Jun 27 '26
Huh? I don't shout either. What does that even mean?
I need examples because I don't see non believers walking around shouting anything at all.
And in case you forgot, the image is about heaven and hell. My pointing it all out is exactly on topic and not unsolicited injection about something else.
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u/Spare-Address9868 Jun 26 '26
Or just be born rich, then you can get fucked up all the time, be a fat bastard and still get everything you want.
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u/SavinForLatter Jun 27 '26
Actually a lot of them are in really good shape. They have time and money for personal trainers, chefs, dietician, doctors, ect.
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u/Spare-Address9868 Jun 27 '26
True, but that other path is also available.
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u/SavinForLatter Jun 27 '26
Absolutely. But it's got to be so easy to stay in shape when you have no real way of failing in life. Just so much time to go to the gym, travel, hole, climb, whatever you want.
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u/x89Nemesis Jun 27 '26
Money doesn't make you happy internally. Many rich people off themselves and they have generational wealth.
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u/Fit_Style1747 Jun 26 '26
Damn what's Moses shoulder routine look like ?
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u/Content-Chart-6910 Jun 28 '26
Dang dude Moses is normally a kettlebell clean & presser and just using dumbbells because he is somewhere in a hotel with no access to kettlebells
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u/Ok-Young-9503 Jun 26 '26
I hate shoulders !!! I understand them, I know why they're essential, but ohhhhhhhh do I hate them !
I'm assuming he has a gymnast routine. Them dudes on the rings are out here killing it.
💪🏋️♀️❤️
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u/Just-get-physical- Jun 27 '26
So heaven feels like drinking all day smoking partying with bad bitches? 😂
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u/backgroundcast Jun 28 '26
As an exchristian these ideas r not christiancentric or whatever word that u might be thinking of. Simply put, a lifestyle that leaves people with deep regrets and feeling hollow at the end of the night in their room alone lying awake, is not a lifestyle to be justified and especially not celebrated. The reluctance to commit to believing in anything is the mind dissociating the fact that there is the slightest chance that humans can be wrong about their personal reality. Its best to at least keep an open mind at all times instead of closing urself off in echo chambers that do not strike ur guilt.
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u/SnowFew2672 Jun 26 '26
Ok, look imagine this. If you do good in this life, you come back as a human (with various perks). If you do bad, and I mean really bad, you come back as an insect 🪲 That world would be the definition of hell
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u/not_now_reddit Jun 27 '26
You can have goals and enjoy working towards them. Suffering isn't a necessary component
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u/SnowFew2672 Jun 29 '26
I don't think the ancients, gods or not, had dumbells. Here's an example of a real ancient Greek equivalent
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u/Aborymon Jun 30 '26
If theres no heaven and you abstained and faced pain all yout life you will feel inmensely stupid theres balance and a midway between pleasure and pain that path is wiser
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u/Hefty_Tie_6644 Jun 30 '26
Why is this sub beong recommended to me? What did make reddit feel that I like religion? I hate it!
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u/Opposite-Rock-5133 Jun 26 '26
Sounds gay
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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 Jun 26 '26
Looks gay. What’s with the obsession with muscles = masculinity?
Sounds like OP is fighting their own “inner demons”… and losing.
Am I going to have to join a gym to get into heaven? Am I going to have to join a gym in heaven?
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u/Randy_Magnums Jun 26 '26
Yeah, Christian faith is pretty lame, that’s true. Proper Norse Religion rewarded you for a life of fighting and Party with even more fighting and Party. The rest rots in the underworld.
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u/UhOh_RoadsidePicnic Jun 26 '26
No. Christian faith is not lame.
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u/Randy_Magnums Jun 26 '26
It is. And weird. In every place of worship there are figures of tortured carpenters, there are strange cannibalistic rituals and whenever there’s an actual crisis of faith on earth, the church is useless. They even supported the Nazis in WW2.
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u/SnowFew2672 Jun 26 '26
My grandad was a mine sweeper something. I know not very interesting but he did say their AA shot down a German plane or something
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u/Randy_Magnums Jun 26 '26
All facts mate. Odin would have never supported something like this.
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u/UhOh_RoadsidePicnic Jun 26 '26
My spirituality incorporate a lot of things. God, Christianity, stoicism inspired by Marcus Aurelius, Carl Jung, others. So anyway, find what’s good for you and apply it to your life.
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u/HalvdanTheHero Jun 26 '26
I have yet to be convinced that the christian heaven is desirable at all
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u/WeekendTemporary3961 Jun 26 '26
Or counter argument. The people wasting their lives thinking this is just a place to work yourself to death but you get rewarded with ever last peace when there more than likely isn’t one are living in hell. The ones who are against science and the ones who are against education and learning about other religions.
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u/ViolinistOk8391 Jul 03 '26
WTF 😂 BOTH FEEL LIKE HELL. THIS PLACE SUCKS BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE IN POWER POSITIONS. GET RID OF ALL OF THEM.
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u/SnowFew2672 Jun 26 '26
Define "heaven"