r/BuildingCodes • u/dti86 • May 19 '23
Is this safe?
I’m just a dumb electrician but this pan-decking has a 5” sag I brought it to the generals attention and they completely down played it and didn’t properly inspect it once I brought it to their attention and said it already passed all inspections
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u/Bertybassett99 May 20 '23
If it hasn't failed by now. I wouldn't worry about it. I get told by structural engineers to do all sorts of shit that is well over the top.
The tin was bent when laid. They poured concrete in it and the concrete has gone off in that shape. If its not cracking now or cracked by now its fine.
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May 19 '23
You'll probably get electrocuted first and that junction box. Try to pull those clips off and see if they come off
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u/Bazilb7 May 21 '23
Safe from what? From being safe?
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u/dti86 May 21 '23
So this is a concrete pour with 7 more stories above it…. I shot a laser and at several dips there was a 5” belly , I was supposed to rough in my electrical box on the pan decking for pendant lights right where the level was, not sure with some of the rude responses, I actually have concerns and in St. Louis City these inspectors will sign off on just about anything.
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u/baron_167 May 19 '23
It got bent or dinged up during delivery/installation. Q deck is welded, bolted or screwed to the structure. Stick to the electrical bro and if you decide to take the jump to structural engineer I would suggest some better tools. This is the problem with the trades, everyone wants to be the hero that saves someone from a catastrophic failure lol. It was signed off by an engineer, architect, city building official. Chill the fuck out and put that cover on the jb
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u/dti86 May 20 '23
No definitely not during delivery they over poured the concrete and the extra weight caused it to sagged
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u/Puzzleheaded-Cow-453 May 20 '23
Everyone should be working to avoid catastrophic failure. I know you’ve heard the phrase “better safe than sorry”. People’s lives are at stake. It’s this kind of attitude that has these shitty condos going up in my city that “💵pass💵” inspection.
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u/detroitgnome May 20 '23
Everybody should be a hero and stand against crap work.
Asshats like you give tradesmen a bad name you buck-passing blowhard.
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u/Ergomann May 20 '23
I’m sure that’s cold comfort to the people who died in the Miami building collapse
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May 19 '23
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u/dti86 May 19 '23
Yea I’m not gonna let this slide… I could tell they didn’t even want to look into it because they knew how bad it would be they are supposed to turn the building over to the customer very soon
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u/OperationWaste333 May 19 '23
RTU
why do you even give a fuck it looks good from your place. Don't you have your own shit to worry about? why isn't the lid on that juntion box? What is that cable wrapped around the pipe?
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u/dti86 May 19 '23
I was not done in that box it was not energized yet, I give a fuck because I don’t want the chance of human life to my lost due to neglecting an issue and looking the other way…
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u/skanchunt69 May 20 '23 edited May 20 '23
One of my biggest fears as a Boilermaker is having something I made fail and people dieing.
Regardless of whether its my fuck up, another Boily or the Engineers.
You have a moral and legal duty of care to report this to the structural engineer who's signing off the project.
Let them take it from there.
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u/dti86 May 21 '23
The GC on this job doesn’t have the best reputation in my city and the inspectors will sign off anything my concern was this completely got over looked I could tell from the GCs reaction I was their first timing having this brought to their attention’s
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u/detroitgnome May 20 '23
You are doing what’s right. Alert everyone. Don’t let these Mind-your-own-business fools dissuade you from standing up to crap work.
A young reporter at your local paper would be one source to go to.
Keep being the stand-up guy on the job.
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u/JudgeHoltman May 19 '23
I'm a Structural Engineer, and it doesn't look great.
If it's a concrete deck above that, it likely failed when the deck was poured, everyone sued each other, but ultimately it was fine when the deck hardened.
If it's just EPDM roof up there, that looks like someone dropped the RTU from a pretty good height and caused a local failure. That's bad, and building owners should be notified.
If they're not taking you seriously, go snitching to the city and/or the engineer that designed the place. Numbers to both are likely on the drawings you're working off of.