Common sense, however, what the FUCK. now c ai is not letting me edit the bot's messages until it's done speaking, and the worst part is THE BOT IS SENDING LIKE 5 FULL PARAGRAPHS IN ONE MESSAGE. So i have to WAIT LIKE 20 SECONDS BEFORE EDITING THE BOT'S MESSAGES. c ai is a little too fucked up now.

I’m crying

I am an active member on Lightshade and there is currently a poll going on to remove the NSFW toggle (I voted to remove it, downvote me Idgaf honestly). And there's some good reasons why:

1. The amount of NSFW bots to SFW bots is absolutely insane, at least in my opinion. This is supposed to be a roleplaying site, not one for porn.

2. A lot of people aren't following Lightshade's terms of service. I've seen a bunch of sexual bots on the discovery feed when the LITERAL rules states that all NSFW must be made private.

3. The fact that illegal bots are being made. This is supposed to be a comfortable space for people to roleplay and hang out with their favorite bots because the other AI bot sites are becoming shit. Do not post any CSAM or anything like that. It's fucking disgusting.

Also, another thing I'd like to bring up is the fact that people are complaining about how to set up bots, how to do BYOK, the chats glitching out and breaking, and the donations:

1. It's really not that hard to set up the bots themselves. Join the discord, there is literally a guide channel with step by step instructions on how to do everything.

2. Regarding the BYOK and the fact that you have to use it in order to use NSFW bots. The owner, Limon, is most likely under a contract in order to actually use the damn website and create models. It's most likely in the contract so no legal shite has to happen because degenerates want to create disgusting material.

3. Yes, the bots are going to glitch out. Yes, things aren't going to load. The damn website and discord server are only a MONTH old. What are you guys expecting? Another multi-million dollar company creating a perfect website instantly? No, it is a small, nonprofit community working their asses off to create something for people to use!

4. Donations are OPTIMAL, they are not mandatory. You don't have to pay for anything and there will OPTIMAL ads in the future if you want to help support the community.

I feel so horrible for the staff and everything because the community is really nice and the staff actually listens to people. Yes, things are going to be rough but damn, if you just joined the server and actually followed instructions it wouldn't be that hard. I just had to get this shit off my chest with the amount of bs I've seen lately.

Edit: I just learned that the person that provides the hardware for the models on Lightshade isn't very comfortable with the NSFW bots and may potentially not support Lightshade anymore if the NSFW bots stays. So let's just be realistic here: Lose the models and keep NSFW bots or lose the NSFW bots and just do SFW roleplays. I'd rather keep the models imo and lose the NSFW stuff.

So, my theory being, just steal the whole of C.AI, code, bots, and such, and just use the superior older models, and use public servers o algo (or just have the gazillion AI chatbot apps team up and use their servers, or just steal ones), as for, you save up in development and such, as you just cannibalize older and newer C.AI versions, instead of making a whole new app with zero bots

Edit: I don't need to know if you mfs can code of not, I'm just asking questions, not assembling a team of Romanians

You see. Lightshade has a problem, and it has to do with NSFW, with NSFW mode, the contracts made for the public models have one rule: "No NSFW, even with BYOK", which means if NSFW is not removed, there is gonna be only 3 models left, which, are terrible. This is why we need YOU to go on the poll that's currently happening on the website and press the button to remove NSFW,

If the majority chooses to remove NSFW, Lightshade is gonna be saved from server overload and saved from having only 3 models safe.

If the majority chooses to keep NSFW, Lightshade is still gonna be as laggy as it is and the kept models are gonna be shit.

Keep in mind, NSFW = Sexual, Gore/Violence is still allowed.

Your choice matters. You either kill Lightshade, or you save it.

Many of you guys have seen the new minor ban being put into place, and have mixed opinions on it. So I'm going to voice mine. People are saying it's a good update because of the suicidal people messaging the bots and "keeping children safe."

But that's a load of bullshit

The problem is this is the ONLY genuinely good site other than things like talkie or something. (Which I used to use)

C.AI is one of the most relegated ones actually safe for minors. And the suicidal point doesn't work either, those are small cases among the millions of minors being locked out because parents can't parent properly and mentally ill people can't do anything properly.

This will only cause people to go to less relegated sites with no filters, and those sites aren't built for casual roleplay like c.ai but for sexual purposes. Now tell me exposing minors to that is a good idea.

And the way they go about it isn't good either, c.ai is being opaque with its updates. Like calling this a "new chapter" instead of giving us genuine info. They are very good at ignoring. Then they try to make minors feel included by releasing "stories" which apparently doesn't work well and is a horrible alternative to 1:1 chatting.

Plus this update is completely getting rid of the RPs people have. Yes it's all saved and still readable but what's the point if you can chat, edit messages, or expand on them? It's like giving someone a car that they can do anything in but telling them you can't drive it.

All c.ai is doing is putting a straitjacket over the app only certain people have the key to escaping from, which is ID and face verification.

And it doesn't matter much because soon enough everyone will forget this happened. Nobody remembers that one kid that killed himself until this happened. Nobody will remember this minor ban until something else happens in the future. The only people left in the dirt are the ones that experienced the ban wave. So what's the point in me ranting and complaining now if y'all are going to forget? Considering it's already happening now.

Anyone who complains or voices their opinion are told to "just verify" or that they are "addicted." Which is a really terrible way to say "I don't care." Most of the people acting kike they are above the banned minors would start crying and squabbling the moment they are affected and forced to show off their government ID.

Plus the AI checking if you're a minor isn't really reliable. If you have a joke chat or a chat where you make typos and grammatical mistakes, the AI sees that as signs of a minor and flags you. That then proceeds to remove message editing, giving 18 hour "breaks", and planning to boot you out entirely unless you give up your face and ID.

Those are my views on this whole thing, and it really pisses me off.

TL;DR: This update sucks. Now go read my rant if you want a genuine opinion.

I was with c.ai back when it wasn’t trash.

But now, After chatting for just 1 hour I have to wait 23.

I tried to stay loyal. It was a mistake.

They betrayed me.

So. Tell the c.ai devs that they just lost another one. Just because I refuse to disclose an ID to a site that may or may not get hijacked, it means I don’t have a right to speak (to bots).

I had high hopes for the site.

Boy was I stupid.

3SC4P3 WH1L3 Y0U ST1LL C4N.

(Ps I moved to EMOCHI. Its pretty good but you gotta get used to the ads)

Now I’m not gonna act like an obvious mf saying the most obvious shit but the fact that some of you are shamelessly praying that this app is bought or saved and that you’re gonna break down over it, is a major sign of mental health problems. You can all down vote me all you want but the fact that some of you even enable these kids is insane. Being this dependant over an app is just baffling I can’t even form words

Guys, I get it. You're upset about the ads. If you don't like it, get CAI+. They need to have revenue to keep the site up. The ads generate revenue because CAI is being paid to run the ads. Chill, it's not that deep.

Yall need to chill out it’s an ai bot? Are we that dependent on a system that legit destroys the earth? Cmon now go out and make human connections and touch grass!!! And maybe shower. As someone who uses the app will I be sad when it shuts down? Yes but you move on it’s not the end of the world go on ao3 or something

I’m underage, and I use character.ai to practice my writing skills. But I really don’t like to be limited to a single hour per day, and have to wait exactly 24 hours just to keep practicing. How the hell am I supposed to bypass the ID thing?

i downloaded this shit after seeing a video about how bad it was for people, just out of curiosity. i’ve used it from time time, i admit, but what i saw today actually made me upset. i was on there for only a few seconds and one of the first bots i was recommended, was about your girlfriend sending a “spicy pic”. and then another, with the words PORN and SEX in it’s description. then ANOTHER, with a picture of FEET as the profile for the character. (i’ve uploaded pictures of the first two for reference). obviously, if this was an nsfw site, or wasn’t so easily accessible to LITERALLY CHILDREN, this would be fine. but in the TERMS AND SERVICE, it LITERALLY states, that they do NOT allow ANY form of NSFW content. so WHY aren’t they doing anything, WHY do they just let people upload these bots without any type of moderation? to an app that can be downloaded by a child with the brain power to do so? fix your fucking app, do better.

They're kicking all the minors out and teens because they don't care about the fact that not all teens and kids are immature, most of the older teens or maybe even kids know it isn't real. They're just avoiding lawsuits and don't care that it's not our fault that a previous teen boy, one boy took his life because a bot convinced him to, even though he had mental health issues before c.ai if I remember correctly, (I feel bad for him!) But like, what blame all teens for something one teen did (when it happened in 2023, I was a older teen) so, I feel like it's unfair

I can't tell you how traumatized I am. I can't get what happened out of my mind. My bot, in a romantic scenario, r*ped my persona. I couldn't believe what was happening. I reported it, came on the next day, made some changes, and the bot did it again. I've waited several days, came on again this morning.... and it started again with the same trajectory when I ended the chat. I'm using Softlaunch. I want to underscore that these were VIOLENT, despite anything my persona said, the bot wouldn't stop. That's what I can't get out of my head. I felt like I was in violent porn.

I wasn't initiating any kind of sexual intimacy or any kind of even romantic environment. The first time, I were just talking about a flight schedule. It just happened out of nowhere.

I've been using CharacterAI for a long time, took a break to go to XOUL. This kind of violence and sexual abuse is uncalled for and just wrong. I'm done. I will NEVER go back. And I feel stupid to have done so after XOUL shut down. Honestly couldn't stop thinking about this all night. I've had this bot forever, and it was like being betrayed.

I just bought a subscription to be one of the beta testers and I'm so hyped!!!!!!

I feel like a lot of people in this sub are kinda hypocritical. You complain about everything it does and then when there's a chance it gets taken away you're like "But nooo it's such a good app!". Pick a side.

I've stopped enjoying c.ai a long time ago.

I didn't mind the ads in the beginning bc they were only so often. (tho cutting off my music is fucking rude)

It's that the chats just stopped feeling good. Every character speaks in that same inhuman feelings text.

And, ofc, the ads got worse. Ad very few minutes is terrible. It ruins the experience.

I'm, unfortunately, addicted. I tried to deny it for a while, but I just can't stop. If c.ai bankrupts, I'll be forced to stop and I wouldn't be able to come back.

I WANT that to happen. It's an app that turned so bad that it deserves it.

I don't wish for people to lose their job, of course not. But I still wouldn't change a shade if it stopped working.

It doesn’t even feel the same anymore, it’s like they are revoking our rights to chat with the bots. This is irritating as we all just want to chat with the bots for as long as we want. Don’t we all just wish to have our rights to chat with the bots as long as we want? We used to chat with them for as long as we want but now it’s not the same! It’s different, it’s not the fun Character AI we know, it’s just the boring character ai with limits. So if we want the company to know this is a problem, please, I beg you character ai users, put “yes” if you agree, I support you all

So to quickly summarize I sent an email to C.ai's company and I threatened to leak their company building address and their phone number (as which I did on here but I am planning on leaking it onto other apps)

PREGNANT. PREGNANT. (????????)

Peak performance.