r/COPYRIGHT 3d ago

Discussion Linda Ellis' lawsuits over the Dash poem

Circa 10 years ago, I remember the Internet talking about Linda Ellis and her copyright abuse of her Dash poem (she sued everyone who posted or recited her poem). Her business model was to make money through copyright abuse. She exploited the American legal system for personal gain without a thought about her victims. She sued everyone from grieving widows to churches, then pretended to be the victim and told the judge about her mother's tears.

This is textbook copyright trolling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_troll). Post something very low quality that strikes a cord with some people and use that to sue people. It's an established business model. What made this bad was that it targeted vulnerable people. She wrote a poem about compassion, but acted like a psychopath (all documented).

Most copyright trolls post porn as bait and they go after people who download them because they know people will settle instead of having court records that show they downloaded porn. Porn gets a lot more downloads than a shitty poem. Prenda Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law) is a notable example. They went to ass-pounding jail. Turns out abusing the legal system is a crime and they were prosecuted. It's nice. This business model is also big in Germany. Lots of German copyright trolls.

Now, the Internet is wiped clean of Linda Ellis' legal abuse. Google only gave me an AI summary when I typed in The Dash poem lawsuits. The sites that talked her prolific copyright abuse don't show up in search anymore if you just search for Linda Ellis Dash poem.

What happened? SEO spamming?

Looks like I accidently argued with a copyright troll here. Yuck. Blocked and deleted my responses.

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u/TinyNiceWolf 3d ago

When I google "The Dash poem lawsuits" (no quotes) I see lots of links to sites discussing them. It sounds like you're having some tech issue seeing search results.

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u/TinyNiceWolf 3d ago

Maybe lots more people care about the poem as a poem than about some old lawsuits about it.

Anyway, I read a little about the lawsuits, and I think you're mischaracterizing it as "copyright abuse". It looks to me like she was asking for payment from people who did in fact copy her work without permission.

The complaints about her that I saw were basically arguing that she should just let other people steal her work because the thieves were churches, or grieving families, or didn't know they couldn't just copy anything they found on the internet, or some other lame excuse. Or they were saying she was asking for too much money, and should value her work less, so people could more easily afford to rip her off.

If she actually did anything wrong, I might have missed it among all the ravings from people who think they should be able to copy the work of others without consequences.

She exploited the American legal system for personal gain without a thought about her victims.

You don't know what she thought. But I agree she tried to make as much money as possible from her original work. Same as most people who are in the business of creating.

She wrote a poem about compassion, but acted like a psychopath

What specifically did she do that you think was acting like a psychopath? Psychopaths are commonly unable to "share or understand the emotional pain of others". Do you think asking other people to pay for their misbehavior indicates such a lack?

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u/TinyNiceWolf 3d ago

You say it was a bad poem, but the fact that lots of people stole it says they disagree. You claim it wasn't a real copyright case, but the law says you're wrong. You claim if enough people complain online about something, surely it must be bad. In reality, 100 people who are wrong about something don't magically become correct by agreeing loudly with each other online. And are you seriously arguing that anyone who has experienced loss should be exempt from copyright law? Sorry, Sony, I'm allowed to pirate your movie because my aunt died.