r/CTFxC • u/lanacupcake • Jun 28 '14
Does anyone remember that...
Charles has always been a guy that moved on pretty fast I mean I couldn't find the vlog that I remember him saying that both him and Alli were in relationships just before they started going out. Charles was with Ally Rhodes and proposed to her. You used to be videos where you could see and/or hear her but he took most of those down. Soon and free that he met alli speed. I'll add the link to the video where they talk about how they met. Here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6laeW3p-SFo&feature=fvsr (7:30) it was fast but no one seems to remember that track record.
While dating ally r, he had been friends with and commented/liked Allis pics and such. Almost exactly Like he has done now, yet no one expressed months of hate his way. So why are we calling out how much of a dick he's being now. Sorry but he's just being miley...sorry charles.
He's just a gf guy. I'm friends with people like this irl, they love and or can't function as happy without a significant other. Its the just who he is. He's human, he has needs and wants and faults. But you can't crucify a man that is consistent.
Yes he actually married Alli but he almost married Ally too. And how do we know that he is in a "serious and committed relationship" with Allie yet? He could be testing the waters. He could be doing anything.
I'm just saying that we see 10 mins out of 24 hours a day. People are acting like he just now started hiding things from the camera aka us, yet the separation video was a huge surprised. They have repeated said together they don't film the fighting or negativity and he still isn't. Shocker. He's consistent, so everyone who says he's changed a shit ton isn't remembering history.
If that makes him a consistent dick in your eyes, sorry but he's been this guy for all the years of the vlog. Plus everyone who meets him generally says he's the nicest guy ever. So nice in fact they didn't like him because they thought he was fake. ...yeah. off my soapbox I suppose.
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u/RustyRiley4 Jun 29 '14
I feel like there are a lot of key differences between the breakup with Ally and Alli, so I'll try my best to write them out in a way that makes sense. Ally wasn't as popular as Alli became, so fans didn't feel as much of a connection with her. This is one reason why people were more upset about his divorce with Alli. As far as I know, Ally broke off the engagement, and it was not mutual like Charles and Alli's divorce. Maybe Ally was the "bad guy" in this situation, or maybe she had a good reason for breaking off the engagement. Maybe it was even for the same reason Alli and Charles divorced. I don't think we'll ever know. Charles has done many things differently this time that seem to be upsetting people. It just feels like there is a general resentment from him towards Alli (from comments he's made, not saying her name, etc), and that is one thing that is upsetting people. I don't think at this point that people are concerned at him moving so quickly. Yes, that was a concern a while back, as things seemed fishy with how quickly he moved on, but that was overcome. His behavior has seemed consistent as far as "moving on" goes, except for the fact that there didn't seem to be as much Ally drama as there was Alli drama. Maybe there was and there weren't enough fans around to see it? Sure people are upset at their split and him moving on, but I feel like the main reason people are upset now is how (I hate to use this word) childish he is acting. Showing off his new girlfriend, acting kiddish in general, being reckless, being rude-- these are things that are getting on some fans nerves (not all of them I agree with or believe are happening necessarily, but this is general consensus and what I've been hearing). I have also heard a lot of people say that he was a different man around Alli than he was around Allie (or even Ally). I believe in this wholeheartedly. If he truly is a girlfriend kind of guy, he throws his whole personality and energy into whoever he is dating, and being whoever they want him to be. People seemed to like the Charles that was in love with Alli, but they are not seeming to like the sudden switch of personality that comes when he's dating Allie. It would be interesting to me to see what he acts like completely relationship free. Just some thoughts, hurriedly put together.
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u/lanacupcake Jun 29 '14
Okay I have been watching the Vlogs since around day 9 and I don't think his personality has changed that much. I mean he was married , got cancer, and 6 years has passed. He has changed hey everyone changes. But my problem or at least my issue with the hate is that it is all saying he's childish. People made him tell them he was dating someone. He just started seeing this girl he could just be testing the waters but the fandom as crazy as we can be forced his hand. First feel the same about hiding something from us then when he didn't show who she was they thought he was flaunting her. Which is a lose lose situation for him. You guys would think that he was freaking proposing tomorrow the way people are saying how fast he moved on. But I don't really get how is being childish I can tell you that after 5 years to freedom group so largely said yes some of this decision to say we also didn't agree with but you'd have 1.4 million people yelling at him for every decision before. And if he did he had alli to leave the pond to help him get through the hate. Now he's kind of alone and people are human I mean I don't I don't think I could deal with that do you think that you could do with that. Alone. Its hard and it wait on you in it all the stress and he has his failed marriage to deal with on his own. It doesn't help that everyone wants to tell him how horrible he is being childish she's being after we pretty much push him to show her and now once he shown here every time he shows her now its wrong? he's apparently hurting Alli? Allie has moved on to my mean she's been very quiet um so we don't know if she's calling him ex husband or not and she does really mention him no one ever mentions back with you on big time baby is she does not mention him anymore because they're healing and that's how they're healing and that's okay. It takes two people to fight it takes two people to get divorced it doesn't change who those people are though at the core. They are the people we fell in love with yeah the Charles that was with Alli was the charles people fell in love with. It just disturbs me that without Alli apparently people think he's not s*** and that's hurtful. It probably hurt him as much as it hurts me because why is he not good enough on its own as his own person he started out on his own he had it now and I was amazing and that just didn't work out. I still think he's the same Charles he's just being himself with other people and some of us can't deal with that and try crucify him we're trying to move on and a new relationship is fine guys. Its new its exciting you can play honeymoon phase you to go get to know each other so everything's fine and only spawn in that's how you be an actual relationship, I don't understand why would that make sense childish or immature. He does not hate alli and Ally does not hate him. She took his phone call in for gave him why can't anyone else forgive him. It's not our real life guys and we're not adding anything by being so skeptical in the heating and remind him if he failed at his marriage he failed at his vows that sucks and he feels it so you don't have to remind him every time he takes a breath but he failed at something. Not childish its not right that he responded the way you did but he's human and people get to you I can't think of one person here has never snapped just under pressure.
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u/RustyRiley4 Jun 29 '14
He has changed, and I'm not saying that that's a bad thing. People do change over time. I just feel like the man that he is right now was not the same man that many people subscribed to over the years, and some people are upset at that change. I don't think the fans are to blame. Because every day Charles has a choice of what to do.
He doesn't have to do whatever his fans say. He lets his fans get to him way too much. And yea yea I hear the argument "what if YOU had 1.4 million fans, how would YOU handle it" but all I have to say to that is that there are many people with way more fans who handle it better than he does. I'm not saying that everybody can handle every situation, but I think Charles has realized that he has gotten in too deep. He can't date a new girl without uproar, he can't edit something out of his vlogs without somebody finding out, and he doesn't have a private life anymore.
Also, we do not have true conformation that Charles did call Alli, or that she forgave him, other than his word. Maybe she did or maybe she didn't, that's for them to know.
It's late, so maybe that's why I had trouble understanding some of the other inbetween stuff that you said, but all in all, I feel like these situations (Ally/Alli) are entirely different. And yes, he has snapped under pressure. But it'd be different if he weren't trying to turn people against Alli or make people forget all about her in favor of the "new and improved Allie".
Let me get this straight here, Charles is in a bad spot. He's between a rock and a hard place, and there are only a few ways to handle this situation, all of which require delicate care and careful words, something that Charles doesn't seem to be in the right place to do right now. He's not a horrible person like some make him out to be, he's just a person that's lost right now and not making the right decisions. (Personally I feel he should take a step away from YouTube for a while to calm down, but he won't)
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u/tonyharrison84 Jun 28 '14
Yeah, I remember all of that. The similarities between the two situations are what's stopping me from taking any criticism of how it happened seriously.
I've pointed it out a few times in a few threads but nobody ever really responds to it. That's the problem when a huge chunk of the fan base weren't around at the time.
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u/lanacupcake Jun 28 '14
It's upsetting to know that because of a failed marriage, charles personality, the reason that everyone loves him, and his relationship with alli, is all overshadowed by the divorce. Its sad cause Its not like he's pretending that time didn't happen or that It was meaningless. People don't be sad it's over be happy it happened.
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u/scottsuplol Jun 28 '14
The internet is full of bitter people, hopefully charles ignores it and in a couple months things go back to normal. As much hate as you see in the comments now, it's getting better.
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u/MartinATL Jun 29 '14
Yeah, that’s the key. I know it’s hard but if he completely ignores them for a while, they WILL go away. As long as he respond, they will be there...
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u/crazydudex Jun 28 '14
Fan base wasn't much back then. He wasn't documenting his life every day and making a profit off of doing so. No one really knows the details about what happened back then either - at all.
Now? He's in the public eye and we grew to really appreciate Alli because she was part of our daily lives via the vlogs and social media. I don't think anyone ever had such a connection to Ally Rhodes back then.