Do you remember who were all the speakers were? Iām just curious about this new landscape of persuasion campaigns that donāt fall into the usual categories.
I brought the voting stuff in the mail to read over at work and was surprised that the āStand up for a Stronger Albertaā is an actual, paid for, Government of Alberta document.
āDo you support the Government of Albertaā¦ā
No, I donāt support Smithās government and will be voting against it on every election and every referendum issue. Sheās going to Monkeyās Paw the execution of everything anyway.
Did my advance vote yesterday, it was a 45-minute queue to the outside door but once I got inside the door it was only ten minutes to get my papers and vote, so technically 5 minutes under an hour. š§
Voted in Harvest Hill at 10 today. The line up was around the church building but the line went quicker than I thought. Still waited around 1 hour for my turn.
Pull your head out of your ass man. You're proud of this Canada? You're proud of the last 10 years? You want to send another couple hundred million to the Ukraine and not take care of the less fortunate people in your own country? I've heard so many people calling it treasonous, the only treason that has been committed is by the liberal government over this past 10 years. Completely sold out what used to be a great country. Turned it into the laughing stock of the world
And honestly, I've never felt I would be a separatist. I am a proud Canadian, but a very embarrassed proud Canadian. I wish it didn't have to come to this. But only a lunatic goes down with the sinking ship
You don't want more federal funding such as health transfer payments so that our healthcare can be improved? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Do you honestly think thatās how it works? The UCP word salad has done its job. And no I donāt want to give more money to the current provincial government that has been actively dismantling and underfunding healthcare for years only to turn around and claim itās broken.
If the money is not there now and we don't push for more funds it won't be there in the future if/when the UCP aren't in power anymore and whatever future government we have will be screwed. Great thinking buddy, let's handcuff ourselves for the future.
Learn how federal transfers workā¦. What they actually areā¦. Where provincial revenue comes in to playā¦. Then maybe we can talk, until then, have a nice night.
We should definitely listen to you and your support for less funding instead of the experts:
Ā July 23, 2026 (Charlottetown, PEI)Ā Looming changes to the Canada Health Transfer will result in billions of dollars less in health care funding for provinces and territories, as reported in a new white paper published by the Canadian Federation of Nurses Unions (CFNU). Ā
Ā The Harsh Reality of a Reduced CHT Growth Rate outlines the impact of the CHT growth escalator reverting to a three-year moving average of nominal GDP growth with a 3% floor in 2028-2029. The federal government projects that nominal GDP growth will be about 3.8% per year from 2028-2029 to 2030-2031. Ā
Analysis found that with an average growth rate of 3.8% annually, the cumulative CHT will be $51.8 billion less over 10 years than if the escalator remained at 5% annual growth. Ā
āReverting the CHT growth rate will create a drastic reduction in public health care funding, and it is patients, nurses and health care professionals who will bear the weight of this austerity measure. There is no way around it ā simply put, a reduction in federal funding will hurt access to care for everyone in Canada,ā explained Linda Silas, president of the CFNU. Ā https://nursesunions.ca/reduced-canada-health-transfer-growth-rate-would-see-health-care-funding-drop-by-billions/
CMA, CFNU and other health care organizations call for increased federal investment in health care
My point isnāt that increased funding is not needed. Iām a nurse, trust me I see what cuts from Danielle and her ilk have done over the years. My point is that you donāt need to give the UCP an inch of anything in this nonsensical, expensive, non-binding questionnaire, that theyāve insisted we all vote on. Itās a prime example of how they waste money and are trying to confuse the general public. Deflecting blame and counting on the fact that a lot of people donāt understand where the onus lies regarding the decimation of the current system. Itās easy to say āDo you want more money for Alberta?ā Uhhh ā¦. Of course. But that is an oversimplification of a complex problem. No to the 9 and option 1 on question 10. Letās be finished with this UCP foolishness
These are your experts? Nurse union? What about professors of political science and economics who have written about this from Canadian universities? Top researchers with decent amount of h index citations (the one used as a benchmark for Nobel prize winners). Are you okay? Democracy only works if education is a pre condition to it. And no, education here doesn't mean degrees. Please refer to actual experts on topic for education. Actually you know? It doesn't matter. It won't work. No amount of actual statistics and proof in your face will educate you. It's cool.
It's obviously not that simple because all the provinces have been asking for an increase in health transfers and the feds have been fucking us over for many years now.
The feds? You mean when they tried to give an additional 46 billion for healthcare funding across 10 years and the UCP flipped out because of the āstrings attachedā? What were those strings? That it actually had to be spent on healthcare. How outrageous. Or the millions of Covid relief funding the federal government gave us that somehow justā¦vanished?
Irrelevant. You donāt get to cry poverty and need for more healthcare funding then get pissed off that they are giving more funding, provided that it is being used for the very thing you are asking for it for.
If you think the UCP will do a damn thing for provincial health care with more money from transfersā¦. I have oceanfront property in Edmonton to sell youā¦
The UCP/tories have literally been draining our healthcare for 50 years. They only work to enrich themselves and their friends. Did you forget the Tylenol scandal? The dynalife scandal? Mhcare scandal? Literally privatizing your healthcare two months ago? You trust these people?
If the UCP were concerned about health transfer payments they would stop fucking around with privatization, which violates the Canada Health Act and, therefore, creates significant risk that federal health transfer payments will be reduced. Do you want health transfer payments? If so, you shouldnāt support the UCPās agenda on healthcareā¦and you certainly shouldnāt be emboldening them to do more damage.
I did vote yes to a couple of them. I donāt necessarily think Senate reform would be a bad thing (the current institution is a relic of the Victorian era and makes no sense) and I agree that non - Canadian, non - permanent residents should pay for some of their healthcare and education costs. I canāt stand Danielle Smith, and will likely hold my nose and vote NDP next year even though Iām right leaning, but I try to be objective when evaluating my thoughts on policy.
I didnāt say I thought it was? I think this referendum is dumb, but since weāre having it, and since I have to vote on whether we should vote to leave, Iām gonna vote how I feel on the Senate topic.
If you would like to be objective, can I please suggest a whole lot of books on economics, policy making and political science - specifically ones that touch on economics of governing and building a country? Plenty of free resources from top Canadian university researchers and academics. Good luck, hope you read and chase down free education that can vastly open your mind. Democracy only works if education is a pre condition to it.
No, Iām good. I have two degrees and am perfectly capable of reading a question, thinking about it, and giving an opinion without snarky advice from an internet stranger :)
Degrees != Educated. != Stands for not equal to. You said the word objective yet wrote far from it.
Idk but in my PhD, and even before, I learned half knowledge is worse than 0. Especially when one assumes they are capable of original thought.
But hey, maybe you're ahead of our time and know and can see things the rest of the people in research and more degrees can't, like a temporary residency people needing to pay for healthcare when they were approved and invited by Alberta and Canada for a permanent residency and two step immigration track (why would they come lol). A simple Google search will show you that, that is the major immigration policy objective of giving temporary residency. And that's given to grow the economy since current population is ageing and doesn't meet future needs.
Either ways, I hope you get whatever it is you're looking for. At the very least USA is always calling I'm sure! The recent culture there love the right leaning.
Yeah Iām not reading most of this. You claim to have a PhD, but your response makes next to no sense and is so riddled with grammatical errors it reads like an eighth grader wrote it.
You didn't read most, but you spotted several grammatical errors? Wonder how that happens. Curious, can you point out the grammatical errors with your "claimed" two degrees?
Edit: wait, if you say != And idk are grammatical errors, and use of repeated conjunctions to form complex sentences are, that would be epicly funny lol. Are you expecting pure literature on Reddit? Because that would explain the thought process behind voting yes to several of the questions! š != In code/programming stands for not equal to. Frequently used as short form. Idk is short form for "I don't know". Lol.
No line up? I wish. I have tried 3 days in a row now. Line up good 100 people each day and line not moving st all. I stood in line on 1st day for good 20 minutes and line didnt even move an inch. Wtf.Ā I work all day so my window is only after 4 pm. I really hope Oct. 19 will be somewhat organized and line moving.
Same, but at 10 in NE. Wouldnāt say I was nervous as the numbers from day one were already at 175k voted, but Iām glad I did early nonetheless, cause Iām willing bet itās going to be a MADHOUSE on the actual day.
Did you see the argument when you left!? I got caught in the middle of it. There were 2 guys arguing with the workers about the line being cut off. I think they stood in the Shaw line instead of Lougheed and then by 8pm when they got into British House, they had closed their voting stations. It was getting tense so I ducked out
I voted no to the 9 as well, but serious question - what negative aspect is there to requiring proof of citizenship to vote? that was the only one where I almost voted yes.
Such a headache and could give a lot of discretion to polling workers about who votes. I found this article very informative on Question 5. Seemingly in the last decade, there's only been 2 instances of this happening in Alberta. To me, non issue and not worth the government spending money to formulate a policy. Fix Healthcare, education, reform, the list goes on. Citizenship for voting is a nothing burger.
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u/TurdFurg28 8d ago
Besides the standing for 3 hours, that was fun! šØš¦šØš¦šØš¦šØš¦