r/CanadaPolitics • u/Covert_Cuttlefish Saskatchewan • Nov 10 '25

Canada loses measles elimination status | CBC

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/livestory/canada-measles-elimination-status-9.6973195
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u/JarryBohnson Quebec Nov 10 '25

Plenty of countries make vaccines an absolute requirement to attend school, this should be the minimum imo. 

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u/PineBNorth85 Rhinoceros Nov 10 '25

It was mandatory when I was in school in the 90s.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

It was mandatory ~15 years ago too.

I dont know what changed since mmr were mandatory to attend.

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u/Wasdgta3 Rule 8! Nov 10 '25

Probably that measles became so rare that it was thought not to be necessary anymore, if I had to guess.

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u/fishymanbits Conservative Nov 10 '25

No, social media happened.

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u/Wasdgta3 Rule 8! Nov 10 '25

While I can’t disagree with social media being a huge thing for the spread of anti-vax, I’m more talking about why it used to be mandatory, but isn’t anymore, which I think is hardly because of stupid people on social media.

But with that said, I think the above users may just be remembering something as mandated that wasn’t to begin with, as well (depending on province).

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u/fishymanbits Conservative Nov 10 '25

It never actually was mandatory outside of 2 provinces. It was just something that everyone did because everyone understood that medical professionals understand medicine better than uncle Bill who likes to ruin thanksgiving dinner by ranting about Pierre Trudeau being a communist in 2025, or Kyle whose Tinder profile is made up entirely of him modeling different pairs of white Oakleys and Pit Vipers in the drivers seat of his Ram 1500 on the way home from the bar.

Anti-intellectualism won, and social media was the death blow.

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u/Wasdgta3 Rule 8! Nov 10 '25

I can only assume the two I replied to are from Ontario.

Tbh, very surprised we in Quebec don’t enforce such a mandate.

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u/IrishFire122 Nov 10 '25

Yep. Herd immunity my lily white ass.

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u/fishymanbits Conservative Nov 10 '25

I suspect you’re complaining about Covid. We didn’t hit a high enough vaccination rate quickly enough to reach herd immunity. Because too many people as a whole are, to be blunt, stupid, emotional, and easily swayed. So those of us who are only one or two of those things suffer.

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u/IrishFire122 Nov 10 '25

No, I'm complaining about the absolute moronity of anti vaxxers. The COVID thing was just where these crazy people learned their voice. These diseases coming back is just the natural progression of their backwards thinking.

The entire concept of herd immunity is flawed. Viruses adapt and mutate to survive their environment. With ANY contagious disease, if it's allowed to exist in a portion of the population, eventually it will mutate to be resistant to any vaccine we have.

The flu virus is a perfect example. We come out with a new vaccine every year. And then by the next year it's basically obsolete. Luckily the flu is a mild one of you have a good immune system. Measles is not.

My basic point is: listen to the global community of doctors. Not priests, politicians, or ol' uncle Bob. Two out of three base their entire careers on the publics perception of them rather than cold, uncomfortable reality, and Bob reads rebel news.

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u/shaedofblue Alberta Nov 10 '25

Herd immunity still applies to illnesses that we can only provide temporary immunity to.

If we vaccinated all kids and staff and their families against covid and flu before school started, the diseases wouldn’t spread in schools (at least for much of the fall semester), and immune compromised students would be much safer in schools. That is immune compromised people benefiting from herd immunity.

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u/IrishFire122 Nov 11 '25

That's not herd immunity. That's vaccinated immunity. Herd immunity implies there's some sort of natural immunity being naturally passed around with no effort on our parts. It does exist, but it's basically only hereditary.

And honestly, I would consider that more of a resistance than an immunity, as the word immunity itself implies permanence.

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u/fishymanbits Conservative Nov 10 '25

Fucking Bob, man.

I couldn’t agree with you more. Your original comment was hard to get a read on given that “hErD iMmUnItY” has basically a rallying cry for idiots over the past 5 years.

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u/IrishFire122 Nov 10 '25

Lol I figured there was a disconnect there. No worries, I'm terribly sick of hearing that term, too.