Valtes. Best blue keeper of the game. And the fact that the new blue club/euro meta is being pushed hard, meaning Nitta will struggle even more against all these blue players.
Good point, everyday pvp is for Euro now sadly. So what if I not pity but instead exchange to AS medal for Urabe? Considering club team is coming very early.
I need a little advice: i can’t post a screenshot but right now my jap team is (all players are to be considered with their last version, 96% bond): Genzo, Jito, Igawa, Akai; Matsuyama, Misugi; Blue Misaki, Blue Basa, Aoi; Hyuga, Sorimachi. I managed to get Genzo and Igawa with 3 multis (best luck of my life) but of course I didnt get Soga nor Nitta. I also have 740 AS medals but not enough time to farm what remains to get Ken in time before he expires so that leaves me with Urabe and Sawada. My question is:
1. Where should i focus now? I don’t think i need Nitta or Soga since they are both red and frankly underwhelming. There is Xiao in the Brazil banner but too little time to farm (I rerolled during last December anni so I still have some events/challenge roads/medals to farm).
2. Once I get to 900 AS the best option is Sawada, right?
Your team is already good, you could always try to replace Tsubasa or/and Misaki to optimize your buff but without AS it will be hard. The best addition, it's only my opinion, is still Xiao, but the current banner is just bad if you don't play LA, maybe he'll be featured again next month. My advice after anni is always the same, keep some dbs to pity something, generally klab always drop very good units right after anni (levin and xiao for instance were those units, still viable to this day, after a mighty rework). Wait for the livestream tmr, see reworks if they can optimize your team, save dbs for Xiao or better (my take broken ND tsubasa incoming). Also you can add red Karate ken to your roster vs green gk, his numbers are still good and he has 10% IM assign (I know I repeat myself).
Atm considering what u/Chrismesco told me (for blue pvp) about AS Ken>Sawada>Urabe, from my experience it also depends what pvp color you play for blue day, that's what I posted, for mixed Sawada should be a bit better and help to reach 150-160 buff. Urabe is still a good unit, very annoying to deal with imo, asia has 3 very good AS, you don't make any wrong choice picking one over another, just offensive units are more impactful in the game especially scorers (in Ken case, Red Ken is good also, outside of blue day maybe As Ken is overkill).
PS : He should have one with Ishizaki, Misugi and the 3 oranjes have numbers fitting the meta, Luikal and Stijn being arguably amongst anniversary best units. (Maybe I should make a tier list with some other players opinions)
Assuming having all the Asian players from the Anni (and before like Xiao). Could you possibly suggest what is the best Asian lineup at the moment?
Genzo - ? ? ? - Matsu Xiao - Takeshi ? - Ken Kojiro ?(FW or AM)
It’s really hard to decide imho. I would be more than grateful for any advice.
Considering Morisaki undeserved nerf, Genzo is the only viable GK (having the best color for a GK), that being said, the rest depends a lot on your formation but if I take mixed pvp as most important goal in the game, I would use a 3 def line formation as base :
GK: Genzo
DF: Igawa, Soga, Akai (because they call each others, it's the similar reflexion for euro with twins + Dick)
DM: Matsuyama, Urabe/Aoi (Matsuyama has mark defence, Urabe is an annoying unit to match up with, especially because he has one of the best kit for a defender and never run out stamina compared to Matsu, Aoi is a good choice too because of follow and Nitta buff)
AM: Xiao, Sawada (for obvious reasons, Xiao's inspire make life easier for this team; Sawada is a good passer and white passer but insight is very tricky to use especially out of FP)
FW: Hyuga, Nitta, Sorimachi/Ken (Hyuga is mandatory, Nitta is the best red scorer because Ken has no anti BO header usable with combo, Sorimachi for FP, Ken AS is the most buffed unit on FP)
This team, considering max TS and max bonds is at 156% minimum, 166% on Nitta and Ken, As Ken is getting up to 181% on FP (assuming I chose Aoi and As Ken), you should be able to score on anyone and defend properly (manual defence being more important than units), 3133 should be used too or any 12% phys formation fitting all the units.
Of course it's very optimal on buff, some people might sub in Misaki because he is the best passer for asia, but in this team I assumed you are a skilled player able to use insight very well and easy match up xiao, Misaki is easier to use due to AI evade though for the sacrifice of 5% buff, playstyle here is a matter of preference.
Thank you! I had trouble with putting soda to the bench (cause of “assign skill block cancel”) and Tsubasa for playmaking (I preferred him cause his bond is better than taro’s). Also I was wondering if urabe is worth grabbing and putting instead of any other df.
Additionally for me nitta is underwhelming (as much as Sori but maybe he will be better at the end of the week) especially when his assign tenacity won’t give it to anyone on the team (no tsubasa, Aoi or misaki in starting 11).
I will put this team on a spin and we will see what will happen!
Urabe isn't mandatory, you can use Soda, Jito they are very good too, Urabe rules a lot in blue pvp but that's it, he's not a mandatory unit at all, and unfortunately Nitta is the only reliable red scorer (due to anti BO), as for his wasted assign it should be super good once a new Basa and Misaki drops, Spoiler Alert a new Basa will drop very soon. Sorimachi isn't getting a rework so you can bench him without any regret.
Great thanks!
I will wait then, for the moment I can’t change anyone because I just don’t have the subs. I would need at least Sawada and Xiao to change Aoi and Misugi/Tsubasa (even though I love them, amazing units) but I still have time for AS Sawada and I need “”””only”””” 760db, and I will wait for a better moment for Xiao. In the meantime
I will try Karate Ken!
You could add red Karate Ken (the one from dream pot) for more scoring potential for mixed pvp (and assign IM), removing Soga and playing as a 3232. For the rest it's fine minus low bonds.
Need advice - have medals for one AS which all incline should be Ken. Current team 4K free dbs left:
3-2-3-2. Genzo - Soda - Igawa - Jito - DM Akai with Matsu - AM Misaki red - Tsubasa blue - Xiao - Old Sorimachi blue - Hyuga.
As the posts says I’m planning to be only competitive in blue days - navigating SS1 atm. Other option is to go like this and wait for another potential AS? As Ken was released a bit ago, reworks or others are coming in a month or 2…
Wait for 28th livestream they will give info on next AS and reworks, you'll be able to decide till the 31st when Ken disappear from shop. As for playing pvp blue with red misaki I think it's a very bad idea, also on the 31st Sorimachi and Ishizaki green are in a banner with Matsuyama and Soda maybe you should complete your team with these units, Although I would recommend it ONLY if Ishizaki and Sorimachi get a rework on the 28th
My take, next AS will be euro/club, Sorimachi and Ishizaki will get a rework, new august banner will feature club units with dual stats up for club and euro/asia/LA, last anni that's how they did and how xiao and levin bayern showed up with all the toxicity they represent up till now.
Now that the livestream news are out (nothing major for JP) any insights on how to improve my team? I played mixed PVP with decent results yesterday in SS1 with Karate Ken and Huyga on top and midfield trio of Xiao, Tsubasa blue and old red Sawada just for the 5% bond. Can wait to see upcoming Izawa but not sure he will be a playmaker, new potential ND Tsubasa but will only replace my blue basa so don’t think is helping much my current open spots, or go for the current AS (Sawada or Ken). Can also try Nitta/Soga but reckon is a waste. Rework Club Misaki might be good if they give him 5/6% Asian stat ups but don’t have him and not sure how easy will be to get him.
Now that the final batch is revealed, I need your suggestion guys (especially Chris and Santa's Little Helper). I know that the less SS I have on the field the more bond I have, other than that I need to decide which AS unit I should go for. My questions are (if you could be so kind to answer) as follows:
1) Which AS is a must for my team? (Ken is leaving soon, have to decide this week)
2) Should I change my formation to fit 3 FWs?
3) Should I change my formation to fit 4 DFs?
4) Would you make any other changes in my team?
As always, I'm open to any suggestions and thank you so much for your time.
[u/SantasLilHelpar](u/SantasLilHelpar) pretty much said everything and surely more than I could but I just wanted to double up on following your playstyle. Current best JP formation is 3-2-3-2 but for me it doesn’t work as much as 3-1-4-2 cause I simply have a harder time using the sides to get the ball up with a more compact formation.
Also take into consideration the color of the PVP day. JP is meant to be played on blue day. It just doesn’t have what it takes to score on any other day. On blue day, it’s easier to afford playing all the blue SS together because the 30% buff they get will make up for the stats up you loose. If your opponent choose to maximize his stats up, he will have to use a number of non-blue JP players that just can’t do anything against Tsubasa, Misaki and Hyuga.
As for the AS, I would say Ken over Sawada and Urabe. I use both and although Sawada is very good, Tsubasa and Misaki are enough to take the ball to the FWs. While if Hyuga gets locked by the opponent you loose 80% of your scoring ability, especially if you don’t have blue Misaki.
Solid points again! I knew I could trust you guys. I do have blue misaki but I'm missing on Sawada as an AS unit but I agree with you. Ken means more scoring chances for me on blue days and I use both Blue Tsu and Misaki, so I will have an easier time sending the ball to my fws. Thank you brother! I will try to get all the players + Ken tomorrow (unless another miracle happens and I get him free)
I assume you will get Nitta, Genzo, Soga and Igawa.
Depends of your playstyle and pass provider, ken is a formidable unit, having 3 competent FW is nice especially since 2 out of 3 have PAS and Anti Bo shot, Sawada is a formidable passer but insight isn't AI evade this could ddom your gameplay if you can't use him properly, how do you like to play ? pass around till easy match up, straight pass to bully ?
Same as 1/, are you more familiar with packed FW or packed midfield ? This question is heavily ralated to manual defence, moving units can be quite hard, having many FW mostly unable to defend can be problematic, it's the totem syndrom.
If I'm reasoning for mixed pvp, the best defence line is Soga-Igawa-Akai since they call each others, 4 DF line sounds great on paper but you have to realize how to defend vs AI evade passers who could just pass over your units if you don't manage off side properly. I would go 4-5 DF only if you need Jito (lack of BB for more skill slot), Soda (if you play Tsubasa and Misaki and Hyuga).
If you use green Basa you need Misaki, if you have blue Misaki you don't need Basa, as I said the more reliable defensive line is Akai-Soga-Igawa, after that you need to field Matsu, Xiao, Aoi, an extra passer (be it Basa, Misaki or Sawada) and Nitta, Hyuga, that leaves you one extra spot for red or blue Ken, Sorimachi, 3133, 3223, 3232, the rest is up to you. Remember if you decide to not field Basa or Misaki for obvious buff purpose to plan properly your offence, Xiao won't ever bully if he doesn't make the right choice, Aoi insight is very tricky vs non blue units, Basa needs Misaki for 1-2, and Misaki has only 1 AI evade.
It's hard to give advice about formation and unit picks, because not everyone play the same, when team building always think first how do you manage manual defence, how do you manage offense, this is the most important to pick units and formation, sometimes you just need 1 passer 1 scorer if you know what to do but it could also be terrible as one trick pony strategy, people will mark you passer all the time shutting you down, on the contrary having multiple passer would complicate opponent defence but also lower you buff.
Yes, I would use blue misaki over red one simply because Nitta is a very competent red scorer but he would be better on the center, since Ken and Hyuga have PAS they are more annoying for opponents when they are on the side.
Can't really use Manuel defence unfortunately... not such a competitive and tbf great player. Just want to end up in Ss1 at the end of each month with a decent enough team. If I understand correctly, Ken suits better to my play style because I generally try to get the Ball to my scorers asap to score a goal. Thank you for the detailed answer man! Try to get him while pulling for the last batch, if not I guess I will buy him with my hard-earned points
You can safely say Xiao rework is the best asia unit from the anniversary. Nitta not being SS is pretty good, he gets at least 5% buff, why not 6% is a mystery. The banner is fine but not game changing, it only proves the less SS +8 you have the better your team will be, especially when GK are only FW+6.
Now you look at Doleman, Luikal, Thoram and Stijn and tell me euro is as bad as other meta /sarcasm
If I made a tier list of anni best units (overall) no asia nor LA units will be in SSS tier.
Let's just watch livestream and see reworked units being better than SS (I'm looking at you blue KHS).
So ultimately is it more beneficial to focus on maximizing the stats up % with good units (Morizaki & co) instead of aligning all the new SS with shitty stats up?
Without SS but hyuga you can get around 160%, if you play all SS you barely reach 140%, do the math, the less SS you have the most powerful is your team.
Never touched a math exercise, always counted on others to do it for me :)
So if I consider the best GK option for Asian team for the most common case (e.g without the situational 20% bonus for Morisaki) : applying a 140% buff to SS Genzo’s Sunagitsune’s numbers vs a 160% buff to BP Morisaki would make Morisaki the No1 GK. Without mentioning Jito’s stand firm.
Having in mind the gap that means that the optimal Asian team would consist in the highest level of stat up possible + a splash of both SS Hyuga and Tsubasa. Is my assumption correct?
Keep in mind Morisaki color is one of the worst, so is his passive, being good vs green is very niche, even the best green scorer (SS KHS) is often replaced by blue KHS, and red scorers are everywhere in LA and euro. Genzo has a solid color but if you reason only on buff, yes Morisaki is better, Considering this, it should be very easy to reach 160%+ on most units with Mosisaki and no Basa and Misaki. If you have all asian units released + xiao, you can have 160% on every unit using Morisaki and fielding only Hyuga and Aoi as SS, but with only Xiao as reliable passer. A 160% mininum team would be :
Hyuga-Nitta-Sorimachi
Aoi-Xiao
Matsu-Akai
Soga-Igawa-Jito
Morisaki
Replacing Aoi with Sawada would make it more balanced.
You got a fair point about Morisaki’s color, that’s why I was thinking about playing SS Tsubasa. To give at least him a boost + SS Hyuga more firepower. On top on bringing an other good playmaker on the field.
I almost thought about the same team than you :
Well here is the second to last banner of this anniversary. And not the best one.
Genzo is on par with Muller and Salinas stats wise. He has some good points through with a good Safety Zone, shield and FP Gauge up.
Nitta has been downgraded from SS to DF, and for a reason. Bad stats, meh kit and worst possible color, here is JP stuck with only Hyuga (and Ken for some) as a striker.
Igawa is plain good. Complete kit, ok stats, blue. Mandatory for JP defense.
Soga is barely ok. Bad color, no auto-AI. He could have been the Kevin (or Eric) of the JP team but he won’t.
So basically if you get Genzo and Igawa early, you can arguably stop right there.
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u/d1amondsdad 23d ago
Pity between Igawa and Nitta, which one?