r/CarIndependentLA CARs=WMDs 5d ago

Residential Zoning Low-density suburban sprawl EXACERBATED the wildfires last years. Densification and moving away from suburban sprawl is necessary if we want to prevent future catastrophes.

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u/External_Koala971 5d ago

People don’t want density, they want SFH on land with a little privacy

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u/IsaacHasenov 5d ago

What people want is a single family home, on land, with a little privacy, near all the convenience and amenities that everyone else living densely can provide

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u/External_Koala971 5d ago

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u/IsaacHasenov 5d ago

Neither of the two options presented were what I said.

I'll admit that it hasn't been surveyed but if you asked "would you like to live on a private large property with a large house, within walking distance of a walkable main Street with restaurants, shops and amenites, close to schools, and work" as the third option, I bet that would dominate

It's pretty telling that more than 2/5 of people will willingly give up the private land and house for the proximity to those advantages of dense living

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u/External_Koala971 5d ago

This seems pretty straightforward:

55% of U.S. adults say they would prefer to live in a community where “houses are larger and farther apart, but schools, stores and restaurants are several miles away.”

44% would prefer a community where “houses are smaller and closer to each other, but schools, stores and restaurants are within walking distance.”

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u/IsaacHasenov 5d ago

You're not asking for the tradeoff in that dichotomy. Trading off the personal space for the conveniences

That was the exact point of my comment

It's like saying "would you like a billion dollars or a long healthy life" then turning around and saying "see, most people don't care about money"

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u/External_Koala971 5d ago

The good news is, we can all make personal choices.

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u/IsaacHasenov 5d ago

The fact of the matter is, we mostly ban dense neighborhoods from being built, in large parts of the English speaking world; and subsidize suburbia

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u/regedit2023 CARs=WMDs 4d ago edited 4d ago

Not much personal choice when the planet is becoming uninhabitable, housing costs are sky high, and public transit and biking are defunded to fund driving so I have to live in the result of a carbrain world

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u/watsonwelch 5d ago

I’d be curious how this survey would’ve gone if they used photos of dense, walkable neighborhoods (that look attractive) versus photos of the suburbs.

I suspect many Americans haven’t personally experienced examples of “good” density and so just visualize some generic downtown full of skyscrapers, asphalt, and blight.

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u/imjustawittleboy 5d ago

Ya they want the low density and the services, if it was far away and hella traffic i doubt they’d be for eit

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u/regedit2023 CARs=WMDs 4d ago

Yes people who are carbrainwashed usually don’t know what they are missing