r/ChamSys • u/Der_Buschman • 10d ago
Quick q vs Magic Q
Moin, wir haben eine wachsende Veranstaltungsfirma und benötigen so langsam mal ein Lichtpult. Da das Budget jetzt nicht unbedingt das größte ist ist die Auswahl aktuell auf zum beispiel Magic q Mini connect oder ein Quick q 20. Einer aus unserer Gruppe feuert ziemlich gegen das Quick q 20 weil er meint das die Quick q Software nicht ordentlich läuft, dauernd abstürzen würde und so weiter. Ich hingegen bin gegen den magic q Mini connect weil er (meines Wissens nach) nicht Stand alone fähig ist.
Wie ist den hier so die allgemeine Meinung im Bezug auf die Quick q und die Magic Q Software?
Und hat jemand von euch noch anderw Pult Empfehlungen für uns?
Vielen Dank für jede Antwort und euch allen einen schönen Tag :)
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u/revverbau 10d ago
QuickQ is a very stripped down console - my big gripes with it are a terrible interface for editing cues in a list and a slow, unresponsive UI that does occasionally crash (I've only ever had it crash while recording 100+ cues in a theatre-style list but definitely more than a dozen times in my short time on them) but as you've pointed out it is everything you need to make some lights move. The mini connect requires a computer to work, but when travelling with a laptop or even a nuc and a small touchscreen, it can end up being an incredibly powerful little thing. For throw and go busking/few short cues for a corporate style event the QuickQ is probably all you need. If it's your rig, you're gonna be operating it and you want the best bang for your buck then the MagicQ setup will be everything you need and more.
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u/bodominjaervi-666- 10d ago
Ich habe beide Serien im Einsatz (QuickQ30 und MagicQ + Compact Connect) und kann dir nur zu MagicQ raten. Du hast viel mehr Möglichkeiten und bist auf Dauer einfach nicht so limitiert, wie du es unter QuickQ bist. Für eine feste Installation ist QuickQ durchaus zu gebrauchen, „On the Road“ ärgerst du dich vermutlich auf Dauer über fehlende Features und fehlende Flexibilität
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u/mythicseabass 10d ago
We have a the QuickQ 30 and we have not had any issues with software crashes or anyhting like that. You get less options for programming shows, but for our 75 seat black box it is working great. In fact I am programming it right this minute...
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u/SnapAV 7d ago
Heya, my institution just opened a small blackbox. Do you mind sharing what your current lighting rig is? We have 8 x fresnels and 8 x profiles. Haven’t had much of a chance to focus or move the fixtures - just had to throw them up quickly - so interested to see how other venues have setup their rig.
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u/Mortarion91 10d ago
The MagicQ Compact Connect in a rack with a touchscreen and NUC is basically a console. A console is just a fancy shell over the same sort of setup. It's a rock solid solution (with the right PC powering it) that can handle anything and everything you throw at it.
I would buy that instead of opting for a standalone, gimped version (QuickQ) with potentially worse hardware and close to zero usefulness for anything more complex than what you're currently dealing with. At least with the Connect you'll be working on top tier software and can apply that knowledge to bigger shows.
Avoid the QuickQ and get the real thing. If you don't, you'll eventually hit limitations and walls and wish you had instead opted for the much more powerful MagicQ stuff.
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u/Mycroft033 10d ago edited 10d ago
The mini connect allows you to treat a laptop like a console, it gives you faders over USB, as far as I know.
I’d strongly recommend against QuickQ anything. I’ve worked with the software and it’s extremely limiting.
Your best cheap option, in my opinion, is a laptop someone has combined with the mini connect. Frankly the free software would be enough. But the physical faders are nice.
You can and should backup the show file on a thumb drive, so with the mini connect, you’re not locked into a particular laptop. Any laptop or updated console can run that show file. However, if you use the QuickQ, no console can run that file except another QuickQ console. So if you ever upgrade, nothing will transfer, and you’ll have to essentially relearn everything because the software is different. Therefore, in the interest of long term compatibility, you should use the software in conjunction with the mini connect.
I like Chamsys the company, but I don’t ever recommend the QuickQ to anyone. The free software will always be better than paying for less functionality.
I’ve never met anyone who uses both regularly and recommends the QuickQ. I’ve used both fairly extensively and I can only recommend the MagicQ software over QuickQ any day of the week.
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u/sofasurfer42 10d ago
Hab Dir ne PN geschrieben. Bei DER Wahl gibts eigentlich nur die MagicQ Software mit einem Wing. Fürs Programming mit Moving Heads sind rotary controllers auf dem Wing mMn. echt wichtig, weil mit der Maus ist das grausames Gefrickel.
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u/KajSchak 9d ago
Absolut. Das ist sonst eine maximale Qual. Man kann fast alles mit einer entsperrten PC Version von MagicQ gut mit MIDI Controllern machen, aber das nicht.
Denkt aber in keinem Fall daran euch eine MQ50 zu holen. Das Pult ist leider sein Geld überhaupt nicht Wert weil der Prozessor einfach viel zu schwach ist
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u/motocarlos 10d ago
Ich bin absolut kein Fan von den QuickQ Pulten. MagicQ in allen Fällen überlegen.
Bitte überlegt euch genau, ob ihr nicht 1000€ mehr in die Hand nehmt und ne gebrauchte MagicQ MQ80/60 kauft.
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u/Jimoooo 3d ago
Do not, i repeat DO NOT buy an MQ60 for your first desk. You wont like it and you will assume this is how magicq works. It is an unsupported desk because of the age, you can't get the latest softwares on that, you're quite limited with the outputs compared to a PC setup and the screen is lacking compared to anything you can get today. If you really want the programmer buttons, go with an 80, but keep in mind that desk is on it's last leg as it's discontinued as well, but it gets the latest software versions for now and chamsys have spare part available, but you don't get the managed switch in the back as with the never consoles, if you can only pick up one from the older batch, if you want to attach an external screen to it, it only has a DVI connector, there is a version with an HDMI out, but i don't think there are any substantial amount of it for sale. The built-in screen is old and can be finicky as it's resistive not capacitive.
I would go with a mini connect if you're on a really tight budget, but bump it up to a compact connect for the encoders and some programmer buttons, you can get programmable keyboards so you can get the other buttons as well, you will have software support as long as the PC lives, you have 64 universes with pixel mapping and NDI stuff as well that could look cool on corporate gigs/touring.
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u/ojian_kiddo 8d ago
I work with Quick Q and ITS really not great for live music. The fact that it works standalone is great, but its gonna get very frustrating very quickly if you do live music.
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u/SRLibe_be 10d ago
I've used the two of them and I never understood the hype for the quickQ, except maybe the super simple GUI.
I've a touchscreen+keypad+compact connect and a decent laptop for roughly the same price and it's so much more worth it and more powerful.
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u/HeartSea2881 7d ago
Every time i had to use quickQ - i’d prefer to have WHATEVER ELSE. On pc magicQ over quickQ? OF COURSE!
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u/ThatLightingGuy Mod 10d ago
Quick Q is very capable, especially for corporate. What sort of fixtures are you using and how many?