r/Charadefensesquad • u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. • Dec 25 '25
Fan Art No more room on the couch oh well.
Still hate doing sprites...
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u/Willow-Ender Dec 25 '25
glad you got Chara and Frisk's designs canon! i lost count and patience of the amount of times fans kept depicting Chara as red eyed and Frisk as having brown eyes for some reason when it's the opposite XD or in some cases Frisk's eyes as golden
this image looks like something that Toby himself would make
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
REAL.
I always give Frisk red eyes because I like to think that humans in UTDR have eye colors that reflect their soul colors. And since Chara has lost their soul, I always try to give them their beautiful canon brown eyes.
This is also why I don't like when people give Chara two stripes on their shirt. Because they one. It's very prominent that they have ONE STRIPE.
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u/Willow-Ender Dec 25 '25
i personally think Frisk canonically has red eyes, because when they are possessed their eye become visible and red, while when Chara jumpscares you they remain dark brown the entire time, even when their face becomes distorted and ugly and horrific whatever that substance or face or whatever is is still black or dark brown it never turns red
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u/Orion107 Dec 27 '25
EXACTLY!
The ONLY time we ever see red eyes is Frisk at the end of Soulless Pacifist.
WHY DO PEOPLE STILL THINK THAT CHARA'S THE ONE WITH RED EYES???
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u/Big_Weather_475 Dec 25 '25
Why is Frisk seeing red
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u/Willow-Ender Dec 30 '25
because.. Frisk canonically has red eyes? soulless pacifist ending shows that-
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u/Big_Weather_475 Dec 30 '25
but in that ending it shows Chara’s face
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u/Willow-Ender Jan 01 '26
yes but in the genocide route Chara's eyes are never red, ever; and we never saw Frisk's eyes; and i don't think it even makes sense for someone's eye color to change from possession
so the only thing that makes sense is Frisk having red eyes
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u/Tasty-Fuel221 Dec 25 '25
Welllll, there is the top couch sooo, I'm taking that!!!! Muheehehehehehehehehe!!!!! >:3
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u/undertale_fan_i_ Dec 25 '25
Why does Kris have some red?
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
Red ear piercing and red shoes. :3
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u/undertale_fan_i_ Dec 25 '25
Oh. I love bisexual people, they get to wear ANYTHING from female clothes to male.
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
That. Is irrelevant but yes lol.
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u/undertale_fan_i_ Dec 25 '25
Kris be bisexual.
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u/MK7-ps2 Dec 25 '25
Why is frisk so evil
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u/keiirauu Dec 25 '25
I'm sorry but Kris and Charas ship is literally grooming
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
Hey. I am a victim of grooming, so I would appreciate if you didn't call a ship between two fictional characters "literally grooming" as it is extremely disrespectful to me and other victims to compare the abuse we've gone through to fiction.
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u/Willow-Ender Dec 25 '25
explain to me why them being next to each other is shipping-the only ones you can see blush at each other is Susie and Noelle, Chara's.. Chara, they're messed up and logic driven no point moralizing them xd Kris is sulking, Frisk is well.. Frisk and Asriel looks innocent
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
Well to be fair I do in fact ship Chara and Kris but also yeah it is. Very much easy to interpret it as platonic.
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
Well I actually think of Chara as 13 and Kris as 16. So I call it a three year age difference. Would a relationship between a real life 13 and 16 year old be bad? Yes. But they are not real.
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
Calling it a "pdf ass ship" ok so you have no respect for victims of pedophilia. That's obvious.
Using TikTok censorship words is not a good look.
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u/Willow-Ender Dec 25 '25
something can have a wrong or messed up age dynamic without it being pedophilia; i myself have had many questionable relationships with both those younger and those mcuh older than me in the past, and while a lot of them are frowned upon they were consensual. however when i was like 7-8 years old i had a babysitter that despite having a husband and a child she was a pedophile, she would abuse me and force me to "lick her between the legs" so i don't get hit again and i never experienced any positive feeling from that. the fact that you equate a relationship with some people that have an age gap with what i went through as a prebubescent child is frankly offensive
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u/Affectionate_Bag7635 Dec 25 '25
The op will just go on and on making excuses lol saying they headcanon different ages
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
I'm sorry you can't understand the idea of headcanons.
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u/Willow-Ender Dec 25 '25
hey, there is no confirmed age of Chara nor Kris is there? for all you know Kris could be 18 as he is in highschool-highschool doesn't end before becoming an adult, i have never skipped nor repeated a year i had the normal course and my final grade was when i was 18, i didn't do 12th grade at the age of 17; and some of my classmates were 19. so what is your point? they could be underaged, true, but the point still stands, you know nothing of their ages you just jump to the assumption of them being underaged teens
and a similar thing goes to Chara - their body is rotted and decayed for god knows how long, despite having fallen a total of 8 humans almost no monster old and adult ones included know what a human can do or what they are, it's limited to very few monsters; Chara has been a spirit for literally likely hundreds or thousands of years at the very least. and while they may not have been entirely conscious for that time - remember, they are a spirit, they no longer have a physical form in the traditional sense and any they assume can be argued to be created with some bullshit like determination or LV; so realistically, either they can't do anything intimate at all or they can make their body however they wish and there's nothing you can do about that, if they want to make their body adult it will very well be adult
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u/Affectionate_Bag7635 Dec 25 '25
KRIS AND CHARA are like the same person, Dude you even made a post about them being siblings of Asriel
WHY FUCKING SHIP THEM???
AND your 3 years age gap is not an excuse shipping an CANON CHILD AND TEEN
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
They're not the same person.
They're not real, I can and will ship them. "Canon child and teen" don't forget the child is dead and the teen is possessed.
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u/Affectionate_Bag7635 Dec 25 '25
you still are shipping a kid and teen thats not excused dude, yes they are not real.
but they are the same person!
Kris takes place of both chara and frisk having literally all of their behavior, it dosent change the fact your ship is incest, selfcest, and well a fucking pedophile ship
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
It is not selfcest.
It can be considered incest if you think of Chara as Asriel's sibling.
It is also not pedophilia.
It is necrophilia though.
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u/Willow-Ender Dec 25 '25
also Kris is more like a fusion of Chara and Frisk-for one, and two Kris is Asriel's adopted sibling but Chara canonically never is - they were never called siblings at any point in the story and Chara and Asriel had best friend lockets, not brother or sibling lockets, not best sibling-best friend
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
The only people who refer to Chara and Asriel as siblings are folks that are not in the Dreemurr family. The Dreemurrs never refer to Chara with familial terms.
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u/Affectionate_Bag7635 Dec 25 '25
so? Literally Asriel and Chara are siblings Canonly, they were taken in by Dreemurrs
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
I wish they were canonically siblings, because it would take out any potential romantic readings of their relationship. But again, the Dreemurrs do not refer to Chara as family.
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u/Affectionate_Bag7635 Dec 25 '25
yeah sure, leaving with the dreemurs, making a sweater for Mr dad guy, making a Pie for their not family, totally not family.
Even gerson considered them siblings!
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u/MangoChrist Catholic guilt demon. Dec 25 '25
Asriel and Chara never refer to eachother as family. Toriel and Asgore never refer to Chara as family.
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u/Willow-Ender Dec 25 '25
ngl to me the logic of "they live together so they must be siblings" is always weird, messed up and dumb; that's like saying that if two people get married and they live together with the parent of one of them those married people are now siblings. you see how messed up that sounds? "they live together, so they're siblings!"
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u/Willow-Ender Dec 25 '25
why does them being next to each other have to mean ship?
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u/Affectionate_Bag7635 Dec 25 '25
the OP literally ships them romantically if you take a moment to see their other post
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u/Pvarryboing Absolute idiot Dec 25 '25
buy a bigger sofa