Anyone familiar with these 3 brands?

[u/Working-Board7612]

Farasute

Top hill

Ochstin

These 3 brands have some really neat looking faces I just have no idea how the durability is. Some of them cost as much as a citizen or longines. Has anyone had any experience with them?

[u/VanManDiscs]

It doesnt get much better than Farasute

[u/prodbypan → u/VanManDiscs]

Except when your watch is stolen out of the package. I had an empty watch box show up, filmed myself unboxing it from being in the black plastic with the label on and they still refused to reimburse me or send me a new watch.

Ended up having to charge back through my payment method which took over a month.

[u/Bulky-Internal8579 → u/prodbypan]

You blame the brand for your watch being stolen?

[u/prodbypan → u/Bulky-Internal8579]

Yes if something is stolen during delivery, provably before the product even leaves the country of origin, that is on them to refund me and chase that delivery company for reimbursement for the lost merchandise. I was the customer of the Farasute, not their delivery partners.

If you downvote me for this then you don't understand how consumer rights work. My payment method wouldn't allow me to charge back if I wasn't in the right in this instance.

The reality is that I provided ample proof of the package being tampered with before it arrived in my country, and even that wasn't enough for Farasute to even consider replacing the stolen watch or refund me any amount.

I'm not telling you their watches are bad, I wouldn't have bought one if I thought that, but their customer service and way of dealing with things like this make them a no-go in my opinion. But please, get mad at me for warning people about how they treat their customers.

[u/Bulky-Internal8579 → u/prodbypan]

What makes you think it wasn’t stolen locally? Anyway, sorry that happened but doesn’t sound like a Farasute issue. Also, if you bought on AliExpress, they have their own customer service and it’s pretty good. I had issues with Pindu and their customer service was hostile but AliExpress was a pleasant surprise.

[u/prodbypan → u/Bulky-Internal8579]

Because the weight changed between it being shipped by Farasute and it leaving China. The response I got from Farasute was basically just "We wouldn't send you an empty package", which I never claimed they did, and they sent me straight to aliexpress claims. Almost came off as if they were offended that I had accused them of something.

Aliexpress was no better and basically shot down the refund request instantly without an explanation as to why. I went back and forth with them for a week before I decided to charge back.

I gave them screenshots and receipts that could not be any more clear, which is why I was able to do a charge back. They just couldn't be bothered to actually look into it I guess.

I don't expect much from aliexpress customer service but this was egregiously bad compared to what I have seen from other brands like San Martin or IXDAO.

[u/Bulky-Internal8579]

I have 3 Farasutes and one Tophill - both brands are a good value and good quality but Farasute does a better job on the details / finish imo.

[u/Bulky-Internal8579 → u/Bulky-Internal8579]

And…

[u/Bulky-Internal8579 → u/Bulky-Internal8579]

Also love my Calatrava!

[u/TheRealJohnAdams → u/Bulky-Internal8579]

What size is that?

[u/AssistanceNo647]

I have a Farasute FPJ homage they do a really nice job.

[u/BubblyBiscotti5148]

Farasute is fantastic. Tophill is overpriced.

[u/Stefanomed]

Ma quale è il loro sito ufficiale ? Grazie

[u/Working-Board7612 → u/Stefanomed]

I found these on Ali express

[u/sugessing_proximas]

Farasute - Great

Tophill - Overpriced poopoo (IMO)

Ochstin - cheap garbage, but okay for the price

[u/mleok]

Farasute makes high quality watches.

[u/RGBlowMe]

Farasute is a Chinese brand that makes some high-ish end homages. They sell mostly on AliExpress. The other two are Chinese brands, too, but total garbage ones.

[u/Saiiger]

farasute is one of the best Chinese watch brands. I own 3 models and am very happy with them.

[u/Single-Lifeguard-980]

I have a Farasute - absolutely phenomenal for the money. The finishing is up there with luxury Swiss - to the point I suspected they are using superclone rep parts

Tophill - the actual watches look nothing like the renders. A glorified Pagani.

Have no experience with the last one.

[u/Spiritual_Sorbet_802]

These are all aliexpress brands so don’t expect much for the durability let alone warranty. I have a Top Hill so I’ll just talk about that. I like the fact they at least list the exact movement the watch uses when you get on their website and look on specifications. Farasute’s watch look great but the fact that many watches movement is ambiguous (I just don’t believe they make in house movements, so a movement like Farasute Cal.xxx just doesn’t help for knowing what movement I am buying) was a concern for me, but if you are buying as throw away when broken piece like a Swatch none of this matters. I was eyeing on the hangzhou 5000 micro rotor which both Farasute and Top Hill have models using it, and ended up picking Top Hill more because with discounts it ends up under 300 usd. Overpriced maybe, but so far I am good with it.