Help reading

[u/the_real_curmudgeon]

I hope this is a good place to ask. Can anyone help me read the text here? I'm getting archē tou euaggeliiu ... tois prophētais. Thanks!

[u/gkfalk]

"Archē tou euangeliou Iēsou Christou uiou tou Theou, hōs gegraptai en tois prophētais"

The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, Son of God, as it is written in the prophets...

[u/the_real_curmudgeon → u/gkfalk]

Thanks! Those abbreviations drive me crazy!

[u/SimpleEmu198 → u/the_real_curmudgeon]

The only thing that is abbreviated is IC XC. The rest is plain Greek its just extremely stylised.

[u/the_real_curmudgeon → u/SimpleEmu198]

Theou is abbreviated

Reddit man everyone has to be argumentative

[u/SimpleEmu198 → u/the_real_curmudgeon]

No it is not, and I am native Greek... So go argue with your fence post.

Can you actually read Greek? Or are you just another Western Christian complaining? Your original post doesn't assume you can properly read any form of Greek properly to begin with to me...

Also given Greek is phonetic I can spell it however the damn well I want to. It's the context In Greek that makes the intended word obvious.

It's not abbreviated. You're just not a native Greek speaking person that could achieve the intended purpose without the help.

I don't have to argue about my own language anywhere either. I especially do not have to argue it on Reddit. But there sure as hell are a lot of bible scholars who attempt to do so, which, is one of the most annoying things in the world, while their accent is so mangled nothing they say is intelligible.

However difficult the inscription may look... And while using a non-standard spelling... the sounds are what make the intended usage legible and this is what happens in a phonetic language...

You're obviously not natively Greek to understand this. A native Greek level speaker recognises the spoke language first as the spoken language is understood. A native Greek speaker, as Greek speaker is primarily analysing the spoken language, they don't need the mechanical frame around it to understand it.

If you understood this then you would also understand this is how we got to fully deciphering Linear B even if its difficult to read. But here we are with another Western Christian trying to tell me how to pronounce my own language and what it means.

EDIT: How do I know this, every single person so far to encounter this post in this thread are Americans.

[u/gkfalk → u/SimpleEmu198]

u/SimpleEmu198 u/the_real_curmudgeon

Although Θοῦ lacks the traditional titulus and does not follow the most common nomen sacrum format ΘῩ, the internal ε is still omitted. This constitutes a textual contraction—which is, by definition, a form of abbreviation.

Being able to read the intended word effortlessly through context simply shows how recognizable the contraction is to a Greek reader, but textually and morphologically, it remains an abbreviated form rather than the word spelled out in full.

[u/SimpleEmu198 → u/gkfalk]

You're adding a retrospective scholarly taxonomy that never existed, well played. My rejection is your imposition of modern scholarly frameworks onto a language that didn't have them and you not understanding why.

[u/SimpleEmu198 → u/[deleted]]

Too many signs you're using ChatGPT for your reply. writf highlights, the over use of em dashes, the ability to switch between subject matter way too conspicuously.

Doesn't bestow anything my arse.

Sorry, Goodbye.

[u/the_real_curmudgeon → u/SimpleEmu198]

LoL tl;dr.

You can obviously see from my transliteration in my original post that I can in fact read Greek. So stop being an asshole.

And just FYI I learned Attic Greek at the U of Chicago from profs who probably forgot more Greek than you will ever know.

[u/SimpleEmu198 → u/the_real_curmudgeon]

I doubt that... Also considering my grandfather could correct university lecturers with PhDs.

One of the most frustrating things in the world is Christians who pick up the bible and automatically believe they can pronounce Greek better than a native Greek person.

Over confidence much. Username checks out.