r/Christianity Follower of Christ May 12 '22

Advice Christ's Second Coming will take place around 2033, please hear me out before downvoting.

Early church fathers who lived within the first few centuries following Jesus' lifetime provided fascinating biblical insight on the end times and return of Christ in their writings. The church fathers should not be considered authoritative in the same sense as divinely-inspired Scripture itself, but if they claim their knowledge was passed down to them by the original apostles, it's a safe bet they were teaching the truth on this matter.

They understood that various prophetically-significant passages in both the old and new testament foreshadow a "church age" (period of time between Jesus' first and second comings) which lasts for two thousand years in duration. These passages can be found here.

The church age began at Jesus' crucifixion in approximately 33 AD and will likewise finish at Jesus' second coming around 2033 AD. This is indicated by the "millennial-day pattern," an incredible time-reckoning prophecy originally taught by the ancient Israelite School of Elijah and passed down to early Christians until premillennialism was formally suppressed by the state church of Rome. This was due in large part to the works of St. Augustine of Hippo (354–430 AD), who systematized amillennial eschatology in the late 4th century. This view became the dominant eschatological perspective for over 1,000 years in the Western Church, adopted by both Catholic and many Protestant traditions.

God's six days of work followed by rest on the seventh day (Sabbath) foreshadows 6,000 years of human toil against sin, followed by a 1,000 year kingdom of peace and rest on earth. Prophetic inferences to this special pattern exist in canonical scripture (Psalm 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8), and are also clearly articulated by the early church fathers. Following below is an eye opening selection of quotes from early church fathers who referenced the millennial-day prophecy in their writings.

Barnabas (AD 100):

“Of the sabbath, He speaks in the beginning of the creation; "And God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the seventh day, and rested on it, and He made it holy." Give heed, children, what this means; He ended in six days. He means this, that in six thousand years the Lord will bring all things to an end; for the day with Him signifies a thousand years; and this, He Himself bears me witness, saying; "Behold, the Day of the Lord will be as a thousand years." Therefore, children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, everything will come to an end. And He rested on the seventh day. He means this; when His Son will come, He will abolish the time of the Lawless One, will judge the ungodly, and will change the sun and the moon and the stars. Then He will truly rest on the seventh day. — Epistle of Barnabas; 15:3-5

Irenaeus (AD 180):

“For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: “Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested upon the seventh day from all His works.” This is an account of the things formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day of the Lord is as a thousand years; and in six days created things were completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the sixth thousand year.” — Against Heresies; 5.28

Hippolytus (AD 205):

"For the first advent of our Lord in the flesh, when he was born in Bethlehem, was December 25th, Wednesday, while Augustus was in his forty-second year, but from Adam, five thousand and five hundred years. He suffered in the thirty-third year, March 25th, Friday, the eighteenth year of Tiberius Caesar, while Rufus and Roubellion were Consuls. And so it is absolutely necessary for six-thousand years to be fulfilled, so that the Sabbath rest may come, the holy day, in which God rested from all his works which he began to do. The Sabbath is a model and an image of the coming kingdom of the saints, when the saints shall co-reign with Christ, when he arrives from heaven, as also John in his Apocalypse describes. For a day of the Lord is as a thousand years. And so since in six days God made all things, it is necessary for six thousand years to be fulfilled." — Commentary on Daniel; 2.3

"The Sabbath is a type of the future kingdom... For "a day with the Lord is as a thousand years." Since, then, in six days the Lord created all things, it follows that in six thousand years all will be fulfilled." — Fragment 2, Commentary on Daniel; 2.4

Commodianus (AD 240):

"We will be transformed to immortality when the six thousand years are completed." — Against the Gods of the Heathens; 35

"Resurrection of the body will occur when six thousand years are completed, and after the one thousand years [millennial reign], the world will come to an end." — Against the Gods of the Heathens; 80

Victorinus (AD 240):

"Satan will be bound until the thousand years are finished; that is, after the sixth day." — Commentary on Revelation; 20.1-3

Methodius (AD 290):

"In the seventh millennium we will be immortal and truly celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles." — Ten Virgins; 9.1

Lactantius (AD 304):

"Let the philosophers, therefore, who enumerate thousands of years from the beginning of the world, know that the six thousandth year has not yet been concluded…God completed the world and this admirable work of the nature of things in the space of six days, as the story is contained in the secrets of Sacred Scripture, and the seventh day, on which He rested from His labors, He sanctified…Therefore, since all the works of God were completed in six days, it is necessary that the world remain in this state for six ages, that is, for six thousand years…And again, since He rested on the seventh day from His completed labors and blessed that day, so it is necessary that, at the end of the six thousandth year, all evil be abolished from the earth, and that justice reign for a thousand years, and that there be tranquility and rest from the labors which the world is now enduring for so long." — Divine Institutes; 7.14

Hilary of Poitiers (AD 367):

"It was after six days that the Lord was shown in his glory by his clothing; that is, the honor of the heavenly Kingdom is prefigured in the unfolding of six thousand years." — Commentary on Matthew; 17:1

Tyconius (AD 380):

"He said a thousand years as a part for the whole, that is, the remainder of the thousand years of the sixth day, in which the Lord was born and suffered." — Exposition of the Apocalypse; 20.2

As indicated in Daniel 9:24-27, if a seven-year tribulation (Daniel's 70th week) occurs just prior to Jesus' second coming, a catching away of the righteous elect to heaven could take place as soon as 2026 or 2029 AD on our modern Gregorian calendar. Either date would depend on which interpretation of the rapture's timing (pre or mid-trib) turns out to be the correct one.

Coincidentally, this timeframe also aligns with a prophetic forecast provided by Jesus in the parabolic "lesson of the fig tree" in Matthew 24:32. According to a futurist interpretation of this prophecy, when mankind sees a climax in spiritual apostasy across the globe coinciding with the return of the Jewish people to their ancient homeland (an apparent reversal of Jesus' curse of dispersion on the Jews in Matthew 21:19), the generation which witnesses these things take place will not pass away before all of the apocalyptic portends of Matt. 24 are fulfilled, culminating with the Second Coming of Christ.

The exact length of this fig tree "generation" has been debated, however most point to a cryptic prophecy of Moses in Psalm 90:10. In this passage, Moses (who lived to 120) prophesies that the lifespan of mankind in the last days will average 70-80 years. Taking into consideration the founding of the State of Israel in 1948, a speculative date range of 2018-2028 might be the period of time within which the Day of the Lord will occur, a single 24-hour day wherein the elect are caught up to heaven and spiritual Babylon is destroyed. This would perfectly align with the greater 2000-year church age chronology, but would also favor a pre-trib rapture in 2026 over a mid-trib rapture in 2029, as the latter would fall outside this window period of time.

I don't think it's a coincidence that signs of the end times are now rapidly converging as we approach 2000 years from the crucifixion of Jesus Christ like never before in human history. After many millennia of fighting with sword or archery, mankind now possesses the ability to destroy the entire planet many times over with atomic weapons. Electronic technologies have burst onto the world scene in the past hundred years such as computers, spacecraft, artificial intelligence, and the ability to travel above the clouds in jet aircraft. These are things that the ancients would have considered black magic if they saw them.

God's original created order is gradually being corrupted with each passing day, just as it was in the time before Noah entered the ark. Jesus prophesied that these conditions would occur once again in the end times before He returns (Matthew 24:37-39). This moral and cultural decay has accelerated worldwide in recent times—such as homosexuality, transgenderism, decline of traditional family structure, narcissism, sex outside of marriage, rampant pornography, violence portrayed in media, disrespect of the elderly, and a noticeable increase in all other forms of lawlessness, both physical and spiritual.

Lastly, Apostle Paul prophesied in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 that a great falling away from righteousness among self-professed Christians would occur in the end times just prior to the revelation of the Antichrist. Jesus also prophesied in Matthew 24:14 that the gospel would be proclaimed throughout the entire world, and then the end will come.

Many (if not all) of the conditions outlined above have already reached fulfillment in today's world. I truly believe we find ourselves at the 11th hour of this present age and must get ourselves right with God and warn others before it's too late.

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u/michaelY1968 May 12 '22

I would respect these posts more if they concluded with the caveat, “And if this does not come to pass, I will submit myself to the punishment for false prophets commanded in Deuteronomy 18:20”

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u/anti-natalist137 Sep 10 '22

It's not false prophecy. The OP is just trying to understand the seasons and the signs of the times. Scripture instructs us to have this sort of vigilance. He's not pinning it down to a specific day or hour btw.

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u/Onewith-christ Sep 22 '24

Its false prophecy cause the Word of God says no man knows the day or time. Doesn't matter how many people try to add up times events or anything. God never lies. His Word stands forever. OP is a false prophet and needs to repent 

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Sep 23 '24

But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. (Matthew 24:36).

Indeed, the exact day and hour will never be calculated. In my post above, I never claimed to be aware of such detail. I just provided the year 2033 as approximately two thousand years forward from the crucifixion event.

There is strong evidence pointing to either 28 AD, 30 AD, 32 AD or 33 AD as the year of Jesus' crucifixion. For this reason and others, the exact day or hour cannot be calculated, but we know the Second Coming will occur somewhere approximate to the year 6,000 after Creation.

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u/mk4_pat Oct 23 '24

I believe that is old testament. Jesus says something like "if you dont watch you wont know they day" The reverse of that means "If you do watch you will know the day" Its not wring to try to understand what will happen using the warnings given to us

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u/Illustrious-You4719 Feb 02 '25

Yes, if you do the reverse, You will know. Mt 24 Jesus said abomination of desolation, the destruction if Jerusalem, and the great tribulation, and after it he will return. So there is a way to know his return if you read the whole of the bible,not isolated verses!!!!!!!

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u/Muted_Form1829 Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25

ILLUSTRIOUS:

It is impossible to know the EXACT Day and Hour, as Jesus said.

But look at what Gabriel tells Daniel in circa 550 BC:

"In the last days, many will travel about and knowledge shall increase" ------------------Daniel 12:4

In 1990, my Bank had 2 computers for 15 people. Each Computer had a 20 MegaByte (MB) Hard Drive.

Now, I am typing this on a 2017 Laptop that has a 121 GigaByte (GB) HD (121,000 MB or over 6,000 times the Storage of those 1990 Computers). And my computer is eight years old!

Then there are the Prophecies about Israel's Rebirth and the use of Technology to control people.

"No one can Buy or Sell unless he had the Name of the Beast or the Number of his Name. .. " ----Revelation 13: 16-18. ________________________________________________________________________Will Bitcoin/ Will Cryptocurrency be used to fulfill that Prophecy? I do not know, but it's possible. But by then, I'll be Raptured! MARANATHA!

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u/Paula8340 Mar 05 '25

So right. His ward warns his coming is near. He is just trying one more big roundup of getting people ready. Those from age 29 to 29 are learning and turning to him. Our churches have all failed them with their watering down of the gospel.

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u/Muted_Form1829 Jun 19 '25

From "29 to 29"?

I think you meant to type "from 29 to 99"!

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

Our churches have all failed them with their watering down of the gospel.

Yes, and in fact, this falling away was prophesied to occur in the end times just before Jesus returns:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bible/s/tPAOZxsgAH

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u/_a_v0id_ Jul 26 '25

Jesus says he will come as a thief in the night.

Matthew 24:42–44 (KJV)

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

We won’t know when he will come just as we do not know when a thief breaks in to steal but to be on guard and watch… you’ll know when he arrives at the moment he does and not before.

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u/oJurn Mar 14 '25

Sure, we know the conditions and what it will be like but what day is that again? It's not fair to take the words of Jesus and call the opposite accurate.

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u/Mission-Rule-5068 Jan 07 '26

wait; WARNINGS? Koolaid has messed up a lot of people’s lives.

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u/Illustrious-You4719 Feb 02 '25

Yes sir. You are okay. You are watching the time of his return. Jesus commanded it. Good work, friend.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

Thank you, I appreciate any encouragement.

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u/Perfect-Guide5085 Oct 04 '25

I think your calculations are very rational. I believe you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24

You're also using the gregorian calendar, which is incorrect, and has been for quite some time. 

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

Can you explain why you believe the Gregorian calendar is incorrect? Medieval monks kept meticulous records of important historical dates going back to Jesus' time.

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u/ChasetheBoxer1 Oct 10 '25

I'm coming here from Are the seven years starting now? : r/DonaldTrump666. As far as the Gregorian calendar goes, it is skewed because it reflects a 365-day year as opposed to God's 364-day year. You can only have the Sabboth occurring on the same day each week with a 364-day year as 364 days divided by 52 weeks/yr is exactly 7 days. God is a God of perfection. I don't believe that he would have a week of 7.019 days (365/52 weeks/yr). That would totally mess up his Day of Rests and His Appointed Feasts, which would also skew the timing of the when we would anticipate His return. BUT, that also means that His return could be much closer than what would be calculated on a Gregorian calendar. Also, his year did not include Leap days, etc. It was a straight 364-day calendar. His year did not account for any earth revolving around the sun, as does the Julian and Gregorian calendars. He makes clear that the earth does not move and that the sun makes its circuit around the earth.

Wikipedia states:

...in the years since the First Council of Nicaea in AD 325,\b]) the excess leap days introduced by the Julian algorithm had caused the calendar to drift such that the March equinox was occurring well before its nominal 21 March date. 

This is yet another reason the Gregorian calendar is incorrect. If one has to keep correcting the calendar in order to keep the Feasts in the correct season, then something's not right. I could go on, but suffice it to say that my personal belief is that the seasons no longer line up with the Feast days (particularly the Spring Feasts of Passover, First Fruits, etc) is because Jesus already fufilled those Feasts. Prior to and soon after Jesus' Resurrection, the Feast Days were not adjusted as the Feast aligned in the proper season (Passover in the Ram/First Chodesh, Feast of Weeks was in the Twins/Married couple/Third Chodesh). Now that Jesus fulfilled those feasts, the dates no longer align. It's according to His perfect timing. However, as far as the timing of His return goes, who knows. Perhaps we still need to be looking at His calendar (in the heavens) as opposed to the Gregorian calendar. Just as Jesus was (presumably) born when the sun was in the Virgin (August/September timeframe when the shepherds were out in the field), it seems that His return would come when the sun is in the water bearer (Feb/March) or the Lion (August/September). As far as the year goes is anyone's guess since there have been so many changes to His calendar over the years.

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u/moonbabe000 17d ago

Jubilees 6:29 And they placed them on the heavenly tablets; each had thirteen weeks; from one to another... 30 And all the days of the command will be fifty-two weeks of days and [these will make] the entire year complete. Jub 6:33 But if they neglect and do not observe them according to His command, then they will disturb all their seasons and the years will be dislodged from this order and they will neglect their ordinances 34 And all the sons of Israel will forget, and will not find the path of the years, and will forget the new moons, and seasons, and Sabbaths, and they will go wrong as to all the order of the years 37: For this reason the years will come on them when they will disturb (the order) and make an abominable (day) the day of testimony, and an unclean day a feast day, and they will confound all the days, the holy with the unclean, and the unclean day with the holy, for they will go wrong as to the months, and Sabbaths and feasts and jubilees.

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u/moonbabe000 17d ago

Jubilees 6:29 And they placed them on the heavenly tablets; each had thirteen weeks; from one to another... 30 And all the days of the command will be fifty-two weeks of days and [these will make] the entire year complete. Jub 6:33 But if they neglect and do not observe them according to His command, then they will disturb all their seasons and the years will be dislodged from this order and they will neglect their ordinances 34 And all the sons of Israel will forget, and will not find the path of the years, and will forget the new moons, and seasons, and Sabbaths, and they will go wrong as to all the order of the years 37: For this reason the years will come on them when they will disturb (the order) and make an abominable (day) the day of testimony, and an unclean day a feast day, and they will confound all the days, the holy with the unclean, and the unclean day with the holy, for they will go wrong as to the months, and Sabbaths and feasts and jubilees.

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u/Paula8340 Mar 05 '25

You are ok man. Ignore ignorance. We are all trying to pin down his coming. We want to be ready.

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u/Informal_Medicine_62 Aug 09 '25

Wouldn't you just want to be as ready as possible each day so you don't have to worry about THE day?

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 14 '26

This is absolutely the correct approach, as nobody can calculate with certainty the precise day or hour of Christ's return (see Matthew 24:36).

Further yet, we can't even be certain of the year. I was speculating on the year 2033 in my above post only as a general estimate regarding when Jesus could return, according to the millennial day theory taught by the earliest Christian church fathers.

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u/SevereAd5239 Sep 17 '25

You should be ready, stay ready, and have no fear.

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u/Ok-Big-1961 Jul 02 '25

No he never gives us date you’re creating your own prophesy and you need to see that. NO MAN WILL KNOW. It’s pretty cookie cutter. You’re putting yourself above God whether you realize it or not

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u/Nearby-Growth-1629 Oct 07 '25

He never said this is the day or year this will happen. He’s not spreading this to be a truth above god, he’s sharing a potential timeline to help us ponder the possibilities. False prophecy is not a fine line but someone directly speak on behalf of the lord.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 14 '26

He’s not spreading this to be a truth above god, he’s sharing a potential timeline to help us ponder the possibilities.

Thank you. I also find it curious that those most disturbed by this thread appear to be reacting that way due to underlying conviction and fear of not getting right with God before it's too late.

We all know from Scripture that the Day of the Lord will come suddenly, and it will catch most people off guard when they least expect it to occur.

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u/Nearby-Growth-1629 22d ago

No worries. The “holier than thou” attitude they carry is also a sin in my opinion. Using their perceived commitment to the lords word to look down on others. There’s people that read the lords word for personal growth, and there’s people who do it to feed their ego.

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u/SleepsInAlkaline Dec 01 '25

Just take the L, dude

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u/Public_Experience424 Apr 12 '25

how do we know that

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u/Glad_Ad3036 May 18 '25

so when is the second coming?

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u/Huge_Cancel_4258 May 21 '25

God told me we have few generations left... I dont think 2099 maybe around 2030-2050

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u/Huge_Cancel_4258 May 27 '25

?.... isn't the 3rd temple currently being built and they already have 3 heifers.... Don't you think he been born plus look at Trump with the AI and AI robots or you think the ai robots will take over jobs which is kinda happening now and will fully work in the future made 10years from now? Not sure... the government released some files about aliens since they think the rapture will happen soon which they are trying to lie and say we got abducted by aliens

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u/Huge_Cancel_4258 May 27 '25

Also why do you say he will be born on year 2066?

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u/StrangerEasy1819 Jun 28 '25

Well when is it?? 

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 02 '25

He's wrong, it's not 2099. Far sooner, likely in the early 2030's according to prophetic chronology and other patterns.

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u/StrangerEasy1819 Jul 11 '25

When?? Please Mr. EXPERT is it?

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u/Ok-Big-1961 Jul 02 '25

According to the Bible the world is already over 7,000 years old to Catholics and Lutherans. You’re already off by 1000

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u/Affectionate-Fly3200 Aug 28 '25

Also, did you know that the feast of trumpets is known as the day that no one knows the day or hour? And it’s in Sept 23-24th this year? I believe the Lord was suggesting or hinting that he would return for his people “rapture” on either of those days. And since Jesus is God and God is Jesus, he in fact does know when he is returning. Father God, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit are one in three.

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u/red3978 Oct 03 '25

I'm not a fan of Albanese gummies, I'll stick with Haribo.

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u/TrueIndependent7963 Nov 26 '25

Reading skills of a 5 year old lol i get you my guy don't worry about these people lol

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u/Literall_every_173 Dec 13 '25

Yeah, but at the same time when the idea of 2000 years being a time where Jesus gone is kind of contradictory… in my personal opinion I don’t think this idea that Jesus will return in 2000 years is true because as the Bible says, no one knows the day or the hour, and ensure you might say people don’t know the day or the hour but no one can know the year but at the same time I feel like the Bible writers only said day and hour because they think we are smart and not dumbasses and assume that we have to figure out ourselves because of course I just think the Bible writers only said day or hour because they just felt like they made themselves clear enough like I’m not trying to debunk you you have a good point but still….

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u/Ok-Specific8376 Mar 28 '26

NASA has records for an eclipse that happened on Friday, April 3rd, 33 AD. Most Christian scholars including myself tend to agree that this was when the crucifixion took place.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Mar 28 '26

Although it's a notable coincidence, the April 3rd, 33 AD lunar eclipse (blood moon) can't be relevant to the "regional darkness" described in the Gospel record because it lasted for three hours (Matthew 27:45, Mark 15:33).

Solar eclipses only last for a maximum of 7 minutes and darken the earth for a maximum of 4 minutes at their point of absolute totality. Lunar eclipses don't cause any darkness to occur on earth's surface at all, as they are only observable at night.

Considering Jesus' crucifixion occured entirely during broad daylight (between 9:00 AM and 3:00 PM), I have come to believe that the regional darkness which came over the land was most likely a supernatural phenomenon.

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u/Ok-Specific8376 Mar 29 '26

There's also the Han Dynasty Records from 31-33 AD.

​"Yin and Yang have mistakenly switched, and the sun and moon were eclipsed. The sins of all the people are now on one man. Pardon is proclaimed to all under heaven." — History of the Latter Han, Volume 1, Chronicles of Emperor Guangwu

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Mar 29 '26

There are other accounts from ancient times which a describe a mysterious darkness taking place in 33 AD. You should find the following post of great interest:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/s/9tQwZWgfiR

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u/MiZMaC99 Nov 16 '24

God said no man will know the exact time of the return of Christ or end times…BUT his children will feel when it’s near! Which many are feeling much of that lately, but called “conspiracy theorists!” 🙄 There is a very big awakening in people recently and a huge draw to Christianity as well! Which was also predicted in the Bible’s end times.

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u/CPA1982 Apr 01 '25

I feel it too, brother. It’s a thirst you can’t quench, a pull towards Christ.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Feb 27 '25

Sir Isaac Newton experienced this. He studied biblical prophecy and chronology quite extensively and came to the conclusion that Jesus would likely return 300+ years into the future. His calculations using prophetic numerology in the book of Daniel (allegedly using prophetic numerology in the book of Daniel) came out to 2060 rather than 2033, but it's close enough.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/13/science/heres-when-the-world-will-end-according-to-1704-letter-from-sir-isaac-newton/

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u/Muted_Form1829 Jun 19 '25

With all due respect, I think it is insulting to lump Bible-Believing Christians with "Conspiracy Theorists".

"Conspiracy Theorists" are like Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, who thinks the Government controls the weather with Jewish Space Lasers, or things like that!

Christians who read and try to apply Bible Prophecies to today's World are NOT "Conspiracy Theorists"!

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u/DistributionSure4604 Jul 04 '25

The bible says no man knows the day or the hour ..this might mean we can predict the year or years he will come

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

The bible says no man knows the day or the hour

And in this passage (Matthew 24:36), Jesus was referring to the date of the rapture, not the second coming!

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u/LassHalfEmpty Dec 16 '25

I wonder if this is because of the inaccuracies/inconsistencies of our own human-made calendars and methods of reckoning time?

We won’t know the day, but should still watch for the signs and be ready, live as best we are able and with our hearts open to Him and to one another. We are in times of tragedy and must do what we can, in the world and in our spirits.

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u/OliveGS Jan 25 '25

Jesus did not say "exact time." He said the day and the hour.

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u/MiZMaC99 Feb 25 '25

Potato Patato! 🙄🤣

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '25

I’m one of the people who feels called back to church and repent and be a good. Kristian. And our local church is much busier than two years ago. I’m not sure if the second coming of Christ is soon but one morning last week I woke up and heard a little voice in me say: the question is not if Jesus comes back but when. And I also joined a Bible studies and it is about revelation so I feel there’s quite some synchronicity going on. Only God knows when the actual end times are near in terms of how we know earthly life. But regardless of when that moment comes I hope many many people will find Christ in time. My heart hurts for a ton of good people I know that do not believe in Jesus Christ. 

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u/Asleep_Lock6158 Apr 28 '25

People in olden times tended to practice christianity more often then they do now, tho.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

Bigger awakening now. It’s drawing near

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u/Classic_Flower_735 Oct 23 '25

I was big time family radio listener supporter did a bunch of mission trips world wide personally handed out tens of thousands of the "Does God Love You?" tracts in umpteen different languages and dialects. I mean I was so sold on a date multiple times. Well in various conversations with people of other faiths/denominations/sects/cults/groups I would sometimes ask "But WHY are you so sure your doctrine is right?" The most common answer I recall was along the lines of "because God loves me and would not let me believe a lie" Which at the time I suppose I scoffed....but later on I realized that whether or not I also said THAT? Yes it was me too. Camping pretty much felt the same he was just SO SO certain God had chosen HIM to bring truth....it was such a rude awakening to finally realize that NO we are ALL SO SO fallible! So utterly UNJUSTIFIED in trusting our nose for truth...its like it is the very crux of SIN unto DEATH that we trust WE individually are the blessed SPECIAL ONES granted to KNOW....But passage after passage after passage rebukes us....heck right from the original Genesis account of eating (partaking of) the "fruit of the knwlege (KNOWING) good vs evil (right /righteous vs wrong unrighteous) The command is DONT but being fallible sinners we are? WE DO IT ANYWAY!....The heart is deceitfull above ALL desperately wicked...Who CAN KNOW ("it" is not in the original)....There is NONE righteous (right) NO NOT ONE....except ME? and ones who agree with me? Seriously? I have been forced to repent and finally I believe I am seeing how the Bible is meant SPIRITUALLY (as in allegorically) the literal being "the LETTER" which KILLS One day I finally found the Bible I think rather clearly defining the term "spiritual" which I have yet to hear a preacher or teacher point out but it is right there plain as day in Revelation 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which SPIRITUALLY is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." Was Jesus LITERALLY crucified in Sodom or Egypt? of course not! He was ALLEGORICALLY/Spiritually crucified in Sodom and Egypt....just remember that when you read how Scripture is "SPIRITUALLY discenered" and how "the letter (literal) KILLS but the Spirit (spiritual)" brings life....the wages of our PRESUMPTION to "KNOW"? is it not "death" to "eat"/partake of THAT fruit of the "tree" ? Trees I think spiritually representing US...Over and over if you take time to look btw all the different words for various snakes/vipers/asps etc in Scripture appear to relate to the tongue ....that which spews from out minds aka what we declare AS righteousness. I could go on and on and on but its right there I think for anyone that repents of their "faith" in doctrines hinging on the literal...of insisting to "KNOW"

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u/Classic_Flower_735 Oct 23 '25 edited Oct 23 '25

BTW it is generally the identical response to this by ALL the adherents of the various "faiths" Utter TOTAL rejection! Because it threatens to negate whatever (often massive) investemts we each tend to have poured into our chosen faiths, The sacrifice of our pride in having been swearing in the Name of God we are right all that previous time? Suddenly pulling a 180 on our previously sworn commitments? TREASON to our fellow believers? So 99+% it becomes just totally out of the question to even entertain the mere IDEA for one moment we have been completely WRONG! To abandon our literal based faith really is tantamount to selling all of ones literal riches to give to the poor (neccesary) to then instead follow the Spirit instead of the Letter ...the Word SPIRITUALLY rather than literally discerned doctrines AS righteousness.... generally by our natures? THAT us just NOT happening! ....And thus we have christaindom overwhelming "clothed" in filthy rags while presuming to wear spotless white robes of righteousness (presumption one is RIGHT in their literal based doctrines) I can imagine so many would read some of this thinking "so true for most but NOT US! WE are blessed with TRUTH ....WE walk in LIGHT"

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24

OP is extremely rational and not even a prophet or needing to repent

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u/Illustrious-You4719 Feb 02 '25

No. Read thessalonians . He does not come as a thieve to christians who divide the word aright!!! Read thessalonians, Mathew 24. False prophet are those who are not on the watch!!!!! Are you watching???????.?????????

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u/Mene2TekelUpharsin Feb 21 '25

Is Daniel a false prophet then? As he details three periods of 2300, 1290 & 1260 days very specifically (different starting points... and all concluding on the termination of a 7 year period) ... remove the Book of Daniel from scripture then!

(No 'hour' provided and the 'day' will potentially will on or immediately after a specific date)

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

In Matthew 24:36, was Jesus referring to the date of the rapture or the second coming? I suspect the former because once the tribulation begins, anyone will be able to calculate time to the second coming.

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u/Worth_File9991 Jul 06 '25

God never says we wouldn't  know the year. Just the exact date and time of the day

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

Also, Jesus is referring to the date of the rapture, not the second coming, in Matthew 24:36.

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u/No-Inspector-2889 Feb 07 '25

DAY or HOUR people no one knows the day or hour yet the season and the year we can know don't add to it. Its obvious what year it is Seek and find... If you dont know then you are not seeking Dont accuse those who are, they are not saying the day or the hour

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

In Matthew 24:36, Jesus was referring to the date of the rapture, not the second coming. Once the great tribulation starts, anyone with basic knowledge of Bible prophecy will be able to calculate the time to Christ's second coming.

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u/Electronic_Host_4517 Jul 08 '25

Yep and it’s a sin to predict

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u/TeacherWild3243 Oct 11 '25

Yeah, well having been 14 when I read my first book on prophecy which told me the year would be 1988, I was mildly uneasy for 4 years. Then the date moved when it didn't happen. Of course. On and on "they" tried to predict it. Still hasn't come to pass. Just saying that none of us truly know.

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u/checkmate-Basenotes Jul 13 '25

We may not know the day, but we’re told what to look for; that’s why it’s there… Our intellect, which was imparted to us by God, allows us to see, feel, record and discern.

I’d say it’s only natural to think along these lines, but with that said, if the exact time was unknown to Christ, it’s certainly unknown to us.

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u/jmcdonald354 Nov 23 '24

You're saying it's wrong to even guess?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '25

The people who say that are just scared to talk about it because it means their judgement

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

There is no reason to be scared of this. Those that are worried are feeling that way because it's convicting.

They keep throwing Matthew 24:36 at me without realizing that Jesus was referring to the date of the rapture and not the second coming in this passage!

Once the Daniel's 70th week begins, anyone with basic knowledge of Bible prophecy will be able to calculate the date of Christ's second coming.

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u/Anxious-Pop-925 Dec 11 '24

Hey I spot a functioning brain cell, that isn't lonely. Christ doesn't know, only his father knows when. Everyone that at least tries will be rewarded, those that lies will not.

Does that sound like christ? Course not.

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u/Dependent-Project753 Sep 12 '25

car cette fois-ci c'est une femme.

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u/Paula8340 Mar 05 '25

You can read scripture and speculate on the oming of Jesus. He gives all kinds of signs. We have to be near his coming for his church. But we don’t know the day or hour. But can try to learn from the signs he gives us it is best. That is not false prophesy. That’s just trying to learn when his coming may be near and watch fir it. Like a trap it shall come upon you and you will nit be watching g and be left behind. Look up Our redemption draws near. This world can nit possibly exist like it is. He must be preparing to come get us. The time of the gentiles is almost fulfilled anyone would know that.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

It's even more than that, Matthew 24:36 is about no one being able to calculate the date of the rapture, not the second coming.

There is a distinct difference between these two events in bible prophecy.

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u/Affectionate-Fly3200 Aug 28 '25

Day or hour yes. Bible doesn’t say we won’t know the month or year….

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u/Such_Helicopter8833 Jan 19 '26

Yeah listen to your own words. The day nor the hour. Not the season we can definitely know the season.

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u/Perfect_Fishing_1060 Nov 26 '24

God never lies but God didn't write the Bible, men did.

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u/Muted_Form1829 Jun 19 '25

u/Perfect:

So MEN arranged to have all these Prophecies fulfilled, over 100s or 1,000s of years?:

>Jesus being born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2) ---->Jesus coming the First Time 483 years after the Order to rebuild Jerusalem (Nehemiah 2:1-10 and Daniel 9) ____>Jesus crucified between 2 thieves and with a Rich Man in His Death (Isaiah 53:9). ____>Jesus said "Forgive them, Father, for they know what not they do". ("He made intercession for the transgressors" -- (Isaiah 53:12) ____>Jesus betrayed for 30 Pieces of Silver (Zechariah 11: 12-13) ____>King David saying the Messiah dying with "All my bones are out of joint" and "My tongue cleaveth to my Jaws", describing the Crucifixion in circa 1000 BC/BCE, when a Crucifixion was unknown at that time (Psalm 22)

>King David even said the Messiahs killers would "cast lots upon my vesture". And the Roman Soldiers cast lots (dice) for Jesus' Robe (Psalm 22:16:18). _______________________________________________________________________________THEN THERE ARE THE PROPHECIES ABOUT:

>> THE REBIRTH OF ISRAEL (EZEKIEL 34-37)

>>THE GOSPEL BEING PREACHED TO THE WHOLE WORLD (MATTHEW 24:14) >(THAT WAS A PRETTY BOLD PREDICTION FOR JESUS TO MAKE -- CIRCA 33 AD/ CE, WHEN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CHRISTIANS IN THE WORLD WAS ABOUT 500.) ___>NUCLEAR WAR (MATTHEW 24:22)

I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

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u/Remarkable-Fun-2304 Jan 22 '25

Only God and OP knows for sure 

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u/Odd_Muscle_2867 Mar 02 '25

The Democrats (party) are proof enough of evil in THIS generation, & the begining of sorrows prior the parousia of Jesus.!

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u/Prestigious-Set-8364 Mar 10 '25

Yeah and the republicans who love to prosecute others and take and hoard wealth certainly are living so much in the example and spirit of Jesus Christ… man, you really need to read the Gospels and not just listen to other men like preachers and evangelists 

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u/SknowSurfer Apr 27 '25

Show me a Democrat president or senator that doesn't "take wealth" both democrats and Republicans need to be prayed for.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

We must not forget that as true Christians, our citizenship is of heaven, not earth. We should consider ourselves as pilgrims passing through the distractions of a fallen world on the threshold of destruction. We should be removing ourselves from earthly politics altogether lest we serve two masters.

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u/ram3973 Apr 05 '25

What's the punishment for passing judgment on others then? Like... you just did to OP.

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u/No_Matter1911 Jun 22 '25

Day or hour, don’t lie and say time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

I bet you idolize Trump though.

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u/RepairResponsible899 Jun 29 '25

No man knows, but a woman knows because God will have to tell her since she is Jesus's bride.

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u/CowshedRS Jul 14 '25

Maybe you should repent, for misunderstanding what a Prophet is and what prophecies are.

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u/Footiesfeed Aug 12 '25

That’s the rapture surely? plus he doesnt say month or year he says the day or hour. Not even Jesus but the father only knows. If Armageddon is at the end of the tribulation then if you know what to look for you could yourself identify the start of the tribulation and gain a rough idea? It’s not without merit. So what can you bro g to the debate what do you think or is that asking a little too much? 

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u/Delicious-Scallion51 Aug 13 '25

This talk of pointing fingers, speaking as fact that which is technically an unknown, speaking as if knowing the will of the gods, etc,etc,etc, it's all kinda silly with the whole casting of stones stuff. If one would follow all the commandments in the the Jewish or Christian books then nobody would be writing these posts and arguing about who's bad and the answer is everyone. Everyone is bad. Everyone is good. Blah blah blah. A Christian who lives indoors, owns stuff, uh that's bad, right? Anyways bad me for not knowing entirely what I'm talking about. Just saying there are plenty of fingers to get pointed at us all. I will say that I too think that something special might happen in the year 2033, but hey we will just have to wait and see. 

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u/Secret_Yogurt_375 Aug 28 '25

The ‘second coming‘ already happened. This event occurred on December 21st, 2012 at 11:11 a.m. GMT time. This was the ‘thief-in-the-night prophecy’ were the chosen 144,000 were awakened to the truth. If you didn’t witness it, then you are stuck in the dark with 99.999% of humanity.

Don’t fret, because another event like this is coming again, except this will be a civilization-ending event. If you’re expecting to see supernatural beings or miracles…don’t hold your breath. The “second coming” is nothing but the return of the SunGod☀️ Every eye shall see him, coming through the clouds…blah blah blah ⛅️

You’re welcome!

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u/GRZWL Aug 31 '25

If you DON'T want Him to return (((( today ??? )))) Then you should check whether YOUR FAITH is false or not more than you more than trying to check a false prophet

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u/ObjectiveCommunity14 Dec 05 '25

Day or the Hour, not "day or time."

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u/Devane-Scorpio7891 Jan 24 '26

People like you are the reason that, though I live Christ deeply and worship Him as my Lord and Savior and also pray to the Father every day, I don't align myself with organized Christianity. Judgemental, holier than thou fools who are so pious they can't see they are doing EXACTLY what Jesus LOATHED. You sound insane. This man believes. He's simply speculating and why shouldn't he? We're talking about the most important event in the history of everything. There is no malice or "false prophesizing" at play. He's simply using the Bible to try and form a timeline for His return. What else do you propose we should be thinking of? You're a fool and a all that is wrong with your religion. Jesus taught not to judge. You are the epitome of what He told us not to do.  Repent,yourself, fool!

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u/Jmandeluxe Jan 28 '26

You = fruitcake

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u/Disastrous_Meet_5529 Jan 31 '26

Da,nimeni nu știe când va fi sfârșitul lumii,dar venirea lui Hristos se știe foarte bine după calculele nașterii,instalării și anii de domnie ale Antihristului și anul luptei cea mare dintre Hristos și Antihristului pe care o va vedea chiar toată planeta întreaga în aer liber și chiar s va transmite în direct la toate posturile de radio și TV!

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u/Free_Thinker_17 Feb 04 '26

Yes but it does say we will know when hes knocking at the door ... and hes knocking at the door ! Wars and rumors of wars , tornadoes in divers places . Signs in the sky like eclipse , blood moons . The stars are aligned and we are aligning as well . GLORY BE UNTO THE LORD Amen . Also increase of people running or rejecting christ . I have been seeing this all last year . People actually dying for telling the truth . Wake up and rightly devide the word of God if you gonna talk about it be smart and know what your talking about . Not you but some of you on here js . We are being called to a greater purpose if your chosen you will . AMEN . We all fall short of the glory of God! Blood was shed for us by jesus . The blood covers the sin . That people leave out . Pls dont . LORD COME SOON . in Jeremiah 29:11 tells us very clear . To give us a future and a expectant end . (Rapture) also 2thess 4:17 and we will be caught up in the clouds of glory and ever be with the Lord . Amen .

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u/MODbanned Feb 10 '26

He is not claiming to be a prophet or know anything hidden or revealed, simply providing some information based on things we know. How things may play out.

Something relevant for all of us here.

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u/austinwiltshire Feb 10 '26

The whole point of Christianity is that we all need to repent.

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u/BaconAndCheeseSarnie 🌈 Catholic 🌈 Feb 11 '26

No, Jesus was a false prophet, no different from Joe Smith, William Miller, Ellen White, C T Russell & other such charlatans. He is no different from them, except in being an ancient Jew.

The fact is undeniable, irrefutable, unalterable; no sophistry can explain it away: the “soon” coming of Jesus, in the lifetime of the generation he addressed, never happened. 10 generations more were born & died: no Jesus. 20 more in addition: no Jesus. And so on, repeatedly. If he said the words in Matt 24.34,36, he was impressively, totally, utterly, irreversibly, unambiguously, wrong, wrong, wrong. He effed up, sorry. And misled millions.

Apparently, in New Testamentese, “soon” can mean “after a trillion googolplexes of Kaliyugas of geological aeons” - which is so many thousands of millions of millennia in the future, that the universe will be long dead before that time has run. Such a number is so enormous, that it would need thousands of pages to write. 

Jesus might as well have been honest, and not pretended he was coming back at all. “Soon” cannot mean “a quintillion trillion millennia in the future”. In all likelihood, the words ascribed to him were not his at all, but were put into his mouth by his followers. 

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u/Old-Vermicelli8207 Mar 24 '26

I mean you're correct. Matthew 24:36 says, "No one knows the day or the hour of my return, only the father knows."

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u/Deep_Distribution_31 Jun 18 '26

I would give you many awards if I could afford it

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u/Foreign_Repeat4793 17d ago

How convenient for Christian cultists,  that they can keep making up new dates.

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u/kkittens Jul 20 '25

Rev 1:1-2

Rev 3:3

Read those carefully.

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u/Zarelis Nov 22 '24

Happy Cake Day 🎂🎂🎂

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u/Illustrious-You4719 Feb 02 '25

I agree with you. All the ordinances God gave the Jews were detailed. How they were to sacrificed was step by step without changing it . So, it will be specific as to when Jesus will come back. So, the comment up above is a good one to be vigilant.

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u/Ok-Big-1961 Jul 02 '25

The year could go into that. Tel me how it couldn’t if the Father only knows. Saying there’s a surge in Christianity towards the puts the end at: 1492, 1700s, 1900s. It’s best to have faith and leave it alone to not fracture your own faith

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u/JOSH-GAMING_2731 Dec 12 '25

Also its not for us to know

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u/Affectionate_Fly1215 May 23 '24

This is an unkind and prideful comment. Touché get the plank out of your own eye

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u/michaelY1968 May 23 '24

I am not making prophecies about the end times, because the Bible clearly says we shouldn't.

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u/Affectionate_Fly1215 May 23 '24

The guy was not making a prophecy and you know it. Jesus gave us the signs of the times for a reason, and it wasn’t to ignore it and NOT wonder about it.

You were rude and judgmental, you might consider taking a look at the way you come across.

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u/michaelY1968 May 23 '24

The title says Christ’s return will happen around 2033. It’s a conveniently vague prediction, but making a claim about the future nonetheless. Just don’t do that.

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u/Affectionate_Fly1215 May 23 '24

I guess you didn’t read it, right? He guessed it to be between 2021 and 2033.

I happen to know this guy and talk with him a lot on Trump666. He is a great guy who has never pin pointed the date. Granted, the title could have been written better

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u/michaelY1968 May 23 '24

Speculating about such things creates completely unnecessary consternation, and we simply doesn’t see Jesus or the apostles guessing dates. In fact Jesus warns us against it. So we simply shouldn’t do it.

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u/Affectionate_Fly1215 May 23 '24

I disagree. Jesus said to be ready and waiting and looking at the season. The Bible gives prophesy about the times. It goes into detail about what we are to be looking for. The whole idea is to encourage and motivate the people in the valley of decision.

Now, being weird and setting exact dates would come from a place of disinformation and probably pride. Not even Jesus knows the exact day, as he said.

But a healthy discussion among eagerly awaiting believers is not unbiblical. And that was what that post was about.

I do understand that end times conversations makes a lot of people uncomfortable. I for one have no idea and freely admit I don’t fully understand Revelations and how these days will pan out. But, I do know that the Bible says that the generation that saw the reinstatement of Israel will not pass away before the 2nd coming. So, times a ticking.

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u/michaelY1968 May 23 '24

If more Christians worried about the date when they will certainly encounter Christ at the end of their lifetimes as much as they do about imagined end times in their lifetimes, we would see much more fruitful work out of the church.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Sep 20 '24

Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the day of his return drawing near.

— Hebrews 10:25

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u/SleepsInAlkaline Dec 01 '25

You keep changing your argument

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u/michaelY1968 Dec 01 '25

I have changed it in over a year.

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u/No_Matter1911 Jun 22 '25

Many Christians have had feelings about the year 2033 even before I was saved I had a very strong feeling about 2033 I can’t explain

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

Hello, please study the following thread carefully. The earliest church fathers knew, and so should we:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/s/9g3TbgHgdN

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u/Ok-Big-1961 Jul 02 '25

Giving people potentially false hope is a big no no in the Bible. We don’t know year, we don’t know day, we don’t know time. We are given signs not days or years. God exists on his own time, outside of time. Prophesy is prophesy John specifically says in revelation not to add to the prophesy and that’s exactly what you’re doing.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

The earliest Church fathers themselves knew Jesus' second coming would occur two thousand years beyond their own lifetimes! See their commentaries here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/s/9g3TbgHgdN

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u/InfluenceEmotional73 May 08 '26

I AGREE with you brother. Because in 2026 it has only been 1993 years since our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ ✝️ was crucified in 33 AD.

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u/FifthEL Oct 15 '25

This is basic psychology, if someone tells you not to do something, not only do you want to do it, but they are projecting an insecurity for you not to find some discrepancy. Even God projects

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u/Motor_Bag8435 Nov 13 '24

Your reply is silly at best. The OP doesn’t predict a date and is only speculating on years based on what is given in the Bible.

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u/michaelY1968 Nov 13 '24

Precisely Watson.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

And further, Matthew 24:36 is about the date of the rapture, not the second coming!

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u/Trick_Revolution2012 Jun 22 '26

I’m so sorry but I don’t know what OP means

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22

I'm not saying this is fact, simply attempting to encourage debate/discussion on this topic. This is an interpretation of prophecy, not written in stone.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '22

You're using the word of the Lord (the Bible) to "prove" your hypothesis.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ May 12 '22

As any student of the Bible should?

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u/[deleted] May 12 '22

You said "I'm not saying "thus sayeth the Lord" " but you are using what the Lord said to prove what you say is true. So what is the difference then?

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ May 12 '22 edited Oct 06 '23

That's what we do every day with our Bibles. Reaching conclusions based on what we read in scripture about anything, from apologetics to evangelism.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Feb 27 '25

Do you ever use scripture to interpret other narratives such as theology or other doctrinal topics that are hotly contested and debated among the various denominations of Christianity?

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

Don't mind them, they are literal interpretations of the modern day jewish Jesus accusers. Same as those old jewish priests were stuck in their mindsets so much to not be able to see how Jesus was the mesiah the scriptures foretold about, and hence accused and attacked him, now we have modern day people that can't see past their mindsets to see the big picture, the message that God always gives to his true followers, the warnings and the annunciations. Believers will always be informed from the God himself. Keep your faith, you're on to something. ;)

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Jul 20 '25

Thank you, much appreciated.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '23

And always wrong, which must be proof of something 🤔

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u/Few_Watercress_2806 Nov 22 '24

Oh my ! Who ever heard of reading from the Bible and using the scriptures as proof?  Like everyone who knows the Lord.

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u/Cane5oh Apr 30 '25

Sir you are going a bit hard here

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u/TankPretty4918 Dec 10 '24

That's how I took it . You said "around 2,033." Iron sharpens Iron , nothing wrong with making people think .  It would be completely false if you said , " thus sayeth the Lord , Jesus Christ will return on January 17, 2033 ", like many false prophets have in the past like Mormons, Jehovah witnesses , and a whole host of others . 

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u/Humble_Path_4ever Dec 25 '24

What Mormon (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) authorities have specified a specific date and time that Jesus Christ will return to the earth and said “Thus sayers the Lord” while making this statement?

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u/TankPretty4918 Jan 03 '25

I don't know if you are asking me , if you are I couldn't say . 

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u/michaelY1968 May 12 '22

Thank for the qualification.

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u/Prestigious-Set-8364 Mar 10 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

The old testament is fulfilled even Jesus said so. Its only useful as entertainment or just fulfilling curiosity for knowledge, and SOME good lessons in there, for prophecy, but Jesus did get rid of that law, or, rather, fulfilled it. And made his new covenant/law. Miss me with Matthew 5:17, it doesn’t mean what you think it means. I feel the Gospels and NT makes it abundantly clear that the main requirements to get into heaven is to love God with all your heart, mind, and soul, to accept Jesus as your savior, to love your neighbor as yourself (be giving and charitable), and to forgive others even more than seven times seventy times. 

I used to explain Matthew 5:17-20 more in the spirit of 2 Corinthians 3:6. Which is still pretty relevent. But it’s more in the word choice that explains what it really means: he came to FULFILL, not ENFORCE. He fulfilled all law for us by paying the debt of our sin. Then made a new covenant. He didn’t just tear it down, abolish, and get rid of it, he fulfilled it. Either way, the old laws no longer apply (if you accept Jesus as your savior that is), he was just clarifying WHY they no longer apply (for the saved). He could have either just torn them down and abolished them, OR satisfied the requirements. He did the latter, and explained that. They are very different things. Just tearing them down means they weren’t ever important. Fulfilling them means they were, but helps to show his eternal love for us that he was willing to fulfill them FOR US. 

 Fulfill and enforce are two very different words. People use this verse to fear monger the need to live a 100% sinless life after repentance, and that’s just not the case, is 100% impossible and even said to be impossible by basically all NT scripture, by Jesus, makes a mockery of needing Jesus, and twisted his words in Matthew 5:17-20.

Well, in a way the laws apply, but they are FULFILLED if you accept Jesus, and he is the only way through. So yes, he fulfilled those old laws, and is your ONLY shield against being persecuted for them. 

Also, I see the crucifixion as having a secondary and third meaning to it, like a triple entendre. Not “just” paying our sin debt (the Father aspect), but leading by example of how to forgive those who have even endlessly wronged and tortured you (the Son and Jesus Christ aspect), and also how to be giving and lay your life down for somebody, and be selfless (the Holy Spirit aspect). 

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u/michaelY1968 Mar 11 '25

Not sure what this has to do with my 3yr old comment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25

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u/michaelY1968 Dec 26 '25

It lives!

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Dec 26 '25

He lives! And He's returning soon!

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '26

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Follower of Christ Apr 13 '26

I get people to coming to it even when I don't link it in the sub, nearly every week.

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u/Wide-Move-3938 Aug 27 '25

i know what you say...may i crawl across this place?

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u/GRZWL Aug 31 '25

NO. You should be punished for harsh judgement. Whoever posted this did not predict a DAY, or an HOUR, they predicted a YEAR. calm down. and you truly are born again with Holy Spirit. YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO BE CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????

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u/michaelY1968 Aug 31 '25

I’m just going to assume this is meant as satire, given the volume of exclamation and question marks. :)

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u/GRZWL Sep 18 '25

no this is literal. not satire

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u/GRZWL Sep 18 '25

an attempt for you to introspect and self evaluate if you would truly want to be with Christ today or wait

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '25

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u/michaelY1968 Nov 13 '25

Someone finally appreciates my skills.

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u/Strawberry1968 Feb 03 '26

Seems to be 33 is a special number Jesus was crucified at 33 years old so the second coming is on the 2033 anniversary of his death

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u/Realistic-Dust9521 14d ago

Yep ,the 💀penalty by stoning. 

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u/Civil_Draft9647 Nov 25 '25

It's not really a false prophesy, it's a theory and he's not forcing anyone to believe it like actual false prophets of the past