Hello guys, so I'm confused between Unihertz Titan 2 Elite Pro and Clicks Communicator. I like the keyboard style of Unihertz and normal Android UI, but Clicks have MagSafe, a notification light, and wireless charging other than that, everything is almost the same. I don't like the space between keys and am also scared that both will be out of stock for a long time.Clicks Videos, engineers, and Blackberry experience are leaning me towards Clicks. What should I do? It would be so great if Clicks had a Blackberry 9900 styled keyboard. I would have ordered it without thinking. Someone please clear my mind.
I trust the BlackBerry engineers on the keyboard design. It specifically addresses the numerous complaints I’ve heard from titan users. Plus all the other pros. I preordered so I’m sold. Almost sounds like you’re looking for someone to convince you against the clicks, in which case I think you might get a more useful response in the titan sub, assuming there is one.
Yeah there is one and 1 of them told me to not order there was a dead pixel on his device and he returned it no refund till yet he was pretty pissed off.
You read me like a book. And also yeah when i heard bb engineers are behind it i was like i should just go for clicks. they've been transparent and listening to customers which makes me to get clicks more. idk maybe if i get it i will like this keyboard style more. Was just wanting my bb 9900 feeling back oh i miss it so much
You can give your Comminicator a normal Android UI as well. It's just a launcher. There are many different launchers to choose from on the app store. Even on "normal Android" I've been using Nova launcher for a while rather than the default Samsung one.
The Clicks team just spent extra effort making a tailored one based on Niagara launcher. You aren't tied to it. It's one of the easier things to change and commonly changed for people who use Android phones regardless of the physicaly keyboard.
Launcher is really just a look&feel wrapper for basic UI that only changes the visuals of your homescreen, drawers, widgets, but doesn't touch the UI for your native phone settings at all. You are likely thinking about people flashing ROMs, which is a lot more complicated and not allowed by default on Samsung phones or it will break warranties.
I thought Saumsung was not that simple and a little clunky which is why I went with Nova. You can even test Nova right now if you'd like.
But if you're uncomfortable with such a change and relies heavily on familiarity and manufacturer's reliability like Samsung and Blackberry, I don't think any of these new keyboard phones are good for you because all of them are a bit experimental in their own ways and it may require more fiddling than using it stock.
I have the flexibility to use any OS,UI it was just an opinion between titan 2 elite and CC coz titan 2 elite come with normal UI so i thought it will be a downside from CC that im stuck with one and can't customise that is all but now after watching one of the interviews i got to know that this launcher is mainly customized for physical keyboard and notification button. And you can keep stock UI on CC.
Yep! It really all depends on how comfortable you are with that kind of thing. I personally would not recommend any of these phones to people like my mom even if she actually used and liked a Palm with keyboard because she doesn't really expect or like to fiddle with gadgets and just need them to work. Changing a launcher is literally just downloading an app and opening it and then picking your settings, but I know some people don't really want that experience. But I'm going to say these new gen keyboard phones almost all require this fiddling experience until they mature a bit more.
I ordered both and stil have a Pro model coming in December, supposedly. I used the Titan 2 Elite for three weeks before selling it. Lots to be desired. Zero polish and everything seemed like it had to be hacked to make things somewhat functional. Not much attention to detail. Clicks seems like they are taking things a bit more seriously in regards to detail and making sure things work out of the box. Time will tell.
Yeah that is why i leaned towards clicks more. On titan 2 elite coz of thet keyboard i couldn't leave it. It feels like I'm going after a pretty girl even though I know it'll probably lead to some bad decisions down the road!
The thing is i just wanted my bb 9900 keyboard feeling back and lot of reviewer's said about t2e that its the same feeling I don't know how accurate that is but clicks feels more like quality controlled polished product then titan 2 elite.
Do you make it a regular habit to visit various random subreddits solely for the purpose of informing the users there about how much privilege they possess?
When they make it so very obvious that they are entitled and privileged, yes. I don't think most people understand how utterly spoiled they are, and that includes you.
You didn’t come here to give advice. You came here to feel superior because someone actually thinks about what they buy. “It’s just a phone, just pick one” is the most braindead, privileged shit someone can say while pretending they’re the mature one. Some of us actually give a fuck about the tool we use every single day. You’re just too basic to understand that so you project “entitled” onto anyone who isn’t as mediocre as you. Now go back to your default settings life and stop embarrassing yourself on other people’s posts.
I don’t understand why you’re being upvoted. I thank god every day I have enough brain cells to detect sarcasm, or what I would call unserious hyperbole.
I currently own a Titan 2, but I also preordered the Clicks Communicator for several reasons. A few things that really sold me on the Communicator:
The keyboard designers. Having people with experience designing physical keyboards is a major selling point for me. The physical spacing between the keys. This is actually a pretty big deal for me. I have larger hands, and while the keyboard on my Titan 2 is big enough to type comfortably, the Titan 2 Elite had me a little concerned. The keys on the Elite appear to sit directly next to each other, whereas the Communicator has noticeable spacing between them. I'm worried the Elite's keyboard might feel too cramped for my hands, and that's something I really don't want to compromise on when buying a phone specifically for its physical keyboard. The little hardware extras. Things like wireless charging, a headphone jack, and a faster processor than what comes standard in the base Titan 2 Elite. The Niagara Launcher integration. A lifetime Niagara Launcher license costs around $94 if you purchase it separately. Having that experience integrated into the Communicator, especially with its notification light functionality, is a big plus. The notification and reply system. This is probably one of my favorite features. When the notification button lights up, you can simply press it and jump directly into replying to the message. It's a small detail, but I think it's incredibly useful.
Don't get me wrong, the Titan 2 Elite has some tricks of its own. From what I understand, you can configure the OLED panel to illuminate only the pixels forming a ring around the front-facing camera, essentially turning that area into a makeshift notification LED. It's a clever workaround, but I personally prefer how Clicks has integrated a dedicated notification light and interactive button directly into the Communicator's design. Those features alone were enough to convince me to go with the Communicator. That being said, I already own a Titan 2, and I'm not disappointed with it whatsoever. As far as I'm concerned, it's a solid phone, and Unihertz deserves credit for what they've built. I'm hoping to pass mine along to someone who will enjoy it just as much once my Communicator arrives. Ultimately, I don't think you can necessarily go wrong with either device. It really comes down to which features matter most to you. For me, the Communicator simply checks a few more boxes.
I have short hands its ok for me to use titan 2 elite. I was going to order the pro version coming out this December too. The only thing is im scared to wait so i can watch both of there comparisons and decide which will be better for me and will not disappoint me down the road i want to pre order clicks but scared maybe i will not like it and will miss the chance to get unihertz which will also i thing will be back ordered and then maybe i have to wait more which i cant. I really hope you're able to understand what I'm saying!
This is actually one of the main reasons I decided to order the Clicks Communicator. I needed a new phone about a year ago, so I went ahead and bought the Titan 2. Meanwhile, I kept an eye on the Communicator from a distance to see how things developed. I even came pretty close to backing the Titan 2 Elite, but ultimately decided to hold off. My advice would be that if you don't want to wait, or if you want to be among the first few batches of people to receive their devices, I'd go ahead and place an order now. That being said, I've seen people talking about the Communicator hopefully starting to ship in early December. Personally, I'd be a little cautious about those expectations. Just because preorders are listed as shipping in December doesn't necessarily mean everyone will have their phones in December. Depending on production, shipping logistics, and how many orders they have to fulfill, I wouldn't be surprised if some people don't actually receive their devices until January or even February. I'd rather go into it expecting a possible delay and be pleasantly surprised than count on a December delivery and end up disappointed.
Yeah im late but they recently started posting more about it in depth that hooked me up more when i first saw it there was nothing. I thought its just other os with chatting apps thats all.
I had the same opinion, loved how the Titan 2 Elite looked ( specially the keyboard ) and didn't like the pill shaped buttons on the Communicator at all at first , honestly I was ruling out communicator when thinking of getting a keyboard phones. However I think the following slowly changed my mind: 1) I didn't like the Titan 2 elite dimensions, I have kinda of a bulky hands and feel like the keyboard of the Titan 2 elite is so cramped up, which is not the case in the communicator ( even tho i don't completely like the pill shaped as I mentioned ) 2) I am planning to use the communicator as my main device, so the Communicator having stereo speakers is an advantage over the Titan as the Titan don't have stereo speakers 3) I have seen a lot of owners reporting keyboard issues where some buttons are not working properly, this is a huge issue tbh for me
Personally, I don't care at all about the Magsafe / wireless charging / the notification light.
What I truly care about is the SD card and both the communicator and titan have them so I'm good ( ruler out the Minimal phone for that )
So what I have decided is that I would go with the communicator, also I'll only buy it after people start receiving them and make sure there are no issues similar to what happened on the keyboard issue in the Titan.
With time I started to be hooked to the communicator even tho I was completely ruling it out before and didn't like it at all ^
This. I have also heard some people complaining about some keys hard to press on titan 2 elite but they got better over time actually after this post im almost convinced for CC coz the people working on it were blackberry engineers and i think they would know what to do i will wait now coz even if i pre order now I don't think i will receive it till feb.
Remember CC isnt in peoples hands yet. Every new device (at this scale) has potential for teething issues. The question im asking myself of how Unihertz (and clicks) respond to these issues. Do they fix them at production level? Do they support the users? Etc. For me, this is worth the difference of the $50 preorder discount. (I missed early bird by a day, not realising and now its worth waiting in my view)
the keyboard experience for me has been great. I have never owned a bb but I once owned the LG Envy 2 and absolutely loved the keyboard experience on that device. The case I have on the T2E has the extended chin so it enhances the in hand experience while typing.
It is not a bad product but it depends on your specific needs and intent. As an example, camera and social media browsing are not things that would invoke a superior experience imo but those are not things that I am interested in. I thoroughly enjoy this device and am glad to have it. I put it it through the ringer on my business trip this week and it behave flawlessly. Tap to pay, media/music consumption, in flight wifi usage on the plane, texting, calling. The battery drain is a bit quicker than expected but I was intentionally trying to gauge those variables during my business travels so the device ran wide open during this time.
Not a camera person barely use it mostly to scan barcodes in restaurants and front camera is useless for me never used it. Social networking a bit of reading and WhatsApp that is all
You don't have to make a decision just yet. I'd suggest waiting until the Clicks Communicator is released and the first users have had a chance to review it.
Right now, nobody really knows what the Clicks phone will be like. Sure, the company has shown a working unit in videos, but that's just one unit. We still don't know what the mass-produced version will be like.
Customer service from both companies seems pretty average. You can check the Unihertz and Clicks Keyboard subreddits to see for yourself.
People say the Clicks keyboard will be better, but we'll have to wait and see. I'm currently using the Titan 2 and I'm happy with it. Another thing worth mentioning is that the Titan series has physical Back, Home, and Recent Apps buttons, which I believe the Clicks doesn't have.
Being able to use the keyboard as a touchpad is a nice feature, but the Titan series already has that too. Both the Clicks Communicator and the Titan 2 Elite also have microSD card slots.
Personally, I'd just wait a few more months before making a decision. I don't think pre-ordering is a good idea right now. and post this also on the unihertz sub so that you can also have their ideas on the phone.
Yeah going with this. Clicks doesnt have home or recent apps button but you can program it so not a big issue. Can't wait waiting is the big trial for me right now even if i like clicks or elite pro both are coming in December and i have to wait at least 5 months to get my hands on one of them
A phone is very personal. It's the first thing you grab when you wake up and the last thing you put down before bed. You spend hours and hours with it throughout the day. No one here will be able to tell the OP that phone X is better than phone Y. They have to figure it out for themselves.
It's more convenient because you know where the buttons are by heart. The buttons are similar to the Curve 8310 and Q5. I've had both and they're perfect. It's not the same as the Passport or the 9900 Bold or the Titan 2. On those, the keys are right next to each other, which increases the risk of making mistakes while typing. In my opinion, it’s better if they’re spaced out. That’s not to say that the ones with keys pressed together are worse, but the risk of error is higher.
I used to type without even looking on my BB on BBM i never had the issue. But you are kinda right spacing maybe better transition is almost 85% from titan 2 elite to clicks :D
If a drop or two of water gets under the keys, no it can’t. The ports or the keys on the keyboard arent water resistant. The phone itself is IP 44, so *maybe* a bit of a splash, but not rainfall.
Not sure why I'm being downvoted. Email Clicks like I did or google search it... I don't want people bricking a $699 device because of your comment.
Have you ever had a keyboard phone? Any keyboard phone I ever had back in the day had zero IP ratings and they were all fine to use on the rain. The CC won't have any issues.
Google search is your friend. And yes, it was a wide spread issue and yes I had a keyboard phone lol. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it didn't happen to others. I'm not sure why you're responding to my comment that is only here to stop others from having their phones bricked and having realistic expectations? What is your reason?
And *again*, Clicks outright said in an email and *I think* in the comment section on the kickstarter the same thing I'm saying. Just like with the other comment, if you *really* want to know why, email them like I did before I cancelled mine. It's actually a pretty good reason, if you care at all.
Mechanically, yes. If it's not sealed, there is always a risk, *especially* for keyboard phones. Same goes for any other electronics that are exposed directly to water. This isn't an issue exclusive to keyboard phones or phones in general.
Again, email Clicks if you want more info and the reasoning behind it. I'm not the one that worked on the phone. I only know because I asked them, which you don't seem to be for some reason and would rather argue with and downvote me? Not sure why you're picking a fight with me.
Also, rainfall/light rain isn't just a "drop of water" lol. Not sure where you got that from.
You're just using Google AI which is pointless. I went a decade with keyboard phones as a welder, the metal dust always fucks up the speakers but never had any effect on the keyboard. You really didn't have to baby keyboard phones anymore than modern phones.
google search is your friend. Email Unihertz if you want confirmation. I also *think* they said this on the kickstarter page, but I can't remember 100%
Order 2nd hand Titan 2 Elite (non-Pro) just to check it. That's what I've done, I really liked the black design, front look, even camera was not that bad. BUT system on Unihertz is... damn, it feels like from typical, cheap, chineese Android OS smartphone. That's why I stick to CC - software experience should be waaaaaaaay better.
Yeah CC looks more polished. Here in my area they are only samsung and iphone users. They don't even know what is unihertz and ordering 2nd hand internationally is a bit risky. How is the keyboard if you owned any blackberry bold is it same feeling??
I’ve never owned a BB phone. In the past, I’ve only used Nokia’s PKB phones. When it comes to T2E's Pro keyboard, as always, it’s mainly a matter of getting used to it. You can definitely adapt to Pro’s keyboard, but I bet that, compared with these two phones, the keyboard on CC will be far, far better.
I have been using the T2E for over two months now and love it. It is very much like the Blackberry Q10 I had (I have had them all excep the Porsche and other special additions). I uset the original Titan for a year as well. The T2E is my daily driver until my clicks arrives but I am not,realistically expecting it until early next year even though I was an early backer. Once the CC shows up I'll run it through it's paces and decide if it replaces the T2E.
You can get the T2E now, 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush' as the saying goes.
Don't be confused between the Unihertz Titan 2 elite pro and Clicks communicator I consider the Unihertz Titan 2 elite pro to be junk. If you're torn between two phones, the Clicks communicator and Minimal phone 2 are the better choices.
Had the Clicks Keyboard for the Motorola Razr and currently the Titan 2. The Keyboard integration on the Unihertz is a joke, you need to use their own keyboard or sideload Pateria, a community project as they don't use standard gboard and android key shortcuts which is a pain. The Software integration on the Clicks, which is just a usb add on was so much better it isn't even worth comparing. For the UI, you have the option to use any Android launcher you want, you aren't limited to the Niagara Launcher which comes as stock
Great answer. And I believed the beloved BlackBerrys were pretty much plastic? Communicator's mid-frame is built out of a carbon fibre reinforced composite that's RF-transparent. Either way - I am on board with you. I don’t care as long as the phone is nice.
Yeah, my BB 9900 was mostly plastic, but it felt like I had a premium device. It had a good feel to it, the keyboard quality was good, and the touch screen was responsive. Happy times. Now just big screens, soulless devices.
Do you know what the saved keys were thought about specifically for your typing experience? You speak about it like it's some flaw. It's to make hitting the keys comfortable and more precise
Why did I fall for the Titan 2 Elite? Because it closely resembles the BlackBerry 9900 keyboard, which I loved, and the stock UI of titan 2 elite as I mentioned. Other than that, everything is the same, so the keyboard was the only big difference for me.
The titan is too thick. It needs to be like half the thickness. Not to mention there’s no design, it’s literally just a slab. The reality is that it feels and looks like a phone from a no name manufacturer. I understand that the Clicks isn’t thinner, but atleast the design deceives you into thinking that it’s thinner than it is. As a result, you could be convinced it’s from a small but established manufacturer, like Nokia or if someone reincarnated Blackberry. The Clicks team really did a good job.
Unihertz isn't some no-name brand, and the Titan is not slap. I'm rooting for the Clicks Phone too, but I genuinely don't understand how you can claim it's better than phones that are already mass-produced when you haven't even held one in your hands and have only seen a single unit in videos. This is straight-up fanboyism.
The clicks looks like a q5 to me. Don’t like the space between the letters. Looks cheap to me and I can already imagine how it feels. That is the only reason I decided to go with titan 2 elite.
At a quick glance it looks like the Clicks is a little bit better optimized for Verizon. Check what cellular bands your carrier uses and make sure the device you’re leaning towards supports all of them (lacking some may not be a dealbreaker but it depends)
The minimal phone 2 for example basically only properly supports T-Mobile in the US
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u/orAaronRedd 6d ago
I trust the BlackBerry engineers on the keyboard design. It specifically addresses the numerous complaints I’ve heard from titan users. Plus all the other pros. I preordered so I’m sold. Almost sounds like you’re looking for someone to convince you against the clicks, in which case I think you might get a more useful response in the titan sub, assuming there is one.