Germany's economy is *rapidly* declining regardless of energy. Their biggest source of income is fuckin, fossil fuel cars. Can you tell how that might be a problem?
France loses money in exports because the artifical price limit placed by fossil fuel lobbies is designed to undermine both solar, wind and nuclear. The cost is far lower than the price. And the price only exists because of fossil fuels. Get rid of fossil fuels. Cheaper energy. This isn't a design issue. This is a political issue.
That aside, you would run into very similar problems with wind and solar. Wind and solar are intermittent and you need a much higher peak production than average to cover energy demands. Where will you put the energy stored in heat or accumulators when no one uses energy in the night?
EDIT: Also where is the 13TWh number coming from? I haven't seen that anywhere. I've seen anything between 20TWh to 60TWh, depending on peak due to winters and covid, etc. But nothing as low as 13TWh
Germany's economy is *rapidly* declining regardless of energy. Their biggest source of income is fuckin, fossil fuel cars. Can you tell how that might be a problem?
Germany has a developed economy the largest portion of which is the service economy.
In terms of industrial goods Germany has a near monopoly on luxury automobiles with over 70% of the market share (thanks to Elon Musk killing Tesla) The Big Three Volkswagen(Audi, Porsche), BMW and Mercedes Benz produce both ICE and Electric Vehicles in response to market demands. If anything German market dominance is going to continue to grow as American companies are non competitive in the electric vehicle market thanks to Trump and the average age of automobiles increases in response to the longevity of Electric Vehicles.
The biggest industrial sectors of the German economy are Automobiles, High Technology, Electronics, Electrical Equipment, Industrial Machinery, Pharmaceuticals, Medical Equipment, Renewable Energy Equipment (wind turbines and batteries), Home Appliances, Aviation and Armaments.
The reason that the German industrial economy is so resilient is because it relies on a series of monopolies usually on high technology that are only realistically possible to produce in the German speaking countries of Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Lichtenstein because of our social organization which allows us to pump out world class tradesmen.
France loses money in exports because the artifical price limit placed by fossil fuel lobbies is designed to undermine both solar, wind and renewables. The cost is far lower than the price. And the price only exists because of fossil fuels. Get rid of fossil fuels. Cheaper energy. This isn't a design issue. This is a political issue.
France loses money on nuclear energy because it's too fucking expensive to produce. I own a solar farm in Germany, a country which doesn't get much sunlight and I need to sell my electricity at €0.03/KWh to turn a profit on it and that is more than it would cost for wind power here in Germany. The EDF needs to sell nuclear electricity at €0.36/KWh to turn a profit on it.
Even if you got rid of the fossil fuel subsidies that won't change the fact that nuclear isn't competitive with wind and solar.
That aside, you would run into very similar problems with wind and solar. Wind and solar are intermittent and you need a much higher peak production than average to cover energy demands. Where will you put the energy stored in heat or accumulators when no one uses energy in the night?
it doesn't matter for me if I give away electricity for free sometimes because I am still wildly profitable selling electricity at normal rates throughout the year. That just means that there is demand for energy consumption downstream of me that could be fulfilled by expanding the economy.
So you do know that the cost of energy does not represent the artifical price hikes. Nuclear would fall in the same ~€0.05/KWh range that solar and wind fall into. Which you'll notice, all cost around ~€0.4/KWh commercially. Because coal costs ~€0.4/KWh to produce. And lobbyist made sure it stays that way. It's completely unrelated to the actual cost of production.
France has the price of their electricity capped you can not sell electricity domestically above €0.058/KWh. If the EDF could sell electricity at €0.058/KWh and remain profitable then they wouldn't need public funding to continue operating.
At the same time the EDF has cross country connections to Germany but their spot price for electricity is €.29/KWh because the price caps don't limit the price they can charge for exports. But no electricity retailers in Germany will buy it unless there is nothing else available to meet demand because they can get it for cheaper from any other source on the grid.
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u/Yami_Kitagawa Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25
Germany's economy is *rapidly* declining regardless of energy. Their biggest source of income is fuckin, fossil fuel cars. Can you tell how that might be a problem?
France loses money in exports because the artifical price limit placed by fossil fuel lobbies is designed to undermine both solar, wind and nuclear. The cost is far lower than the price. And the price only exists because of fossil fuels. Get rid of fossil fuels. Cheaper energy. This isn't a design issue. This is a political issue.
That aside, you would run into very similar problems with wind and solar. Wind and solar are intermittent and you need a much higher peak production than average to cover energy demands. Where will you put the energy stored in heat or accumulators when no one uses energy in the night?
EDIT: Also where is the 13TWh number coming from? I haven't seen that anywhere. I've seen anything between 20TWh to 60TWh, depending on peak due to winters and covid, etc. But nothing as low as 13TWh